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    1. Maga deflects because they don’t want to take responsibility for their decisions. They have the maturity level of a toddler.

    2. drfishdaddy on

      We’re in a dangerous spot. I can’t think of and haven’t heard any conservative propose a deal fundamentally different than the JCPOA, yet, MAGA kicked and screamed about the proposed deal and Trump pulled it.

      So what possibly ends this?

    3. Chumlee1917 on

      America lost because he thought AI Slop and memes was a sound military strategy

    4. 31LIVEEVIL13 on

      this is why this is who’s really in charge: 

      network state

      Dark Enlightenment

      rise of the techno tyrants

      neo-reactionary movement

    5. Choice-of-SteinsGate on

      By all accounts, Iran was committing to its end of the bargain under Obama’s JCPOA—a deal that Trump abandoned out of spite.

      This included strict limitations on uranium enrichment and centrifuges, Iran agreeing to sunset provisions and shipping 98% of its stockpile out of the country, the destruction of their Plutonium cores, placing all of their facilities and their uranium supply chain under rigorous monitoring and more.

      Obama’s diplomacy intended to *avoid* a war and box in Iran’s nuclear program.

      US intelligence, the International Atomic Energy Agency, and even Trump admin officials at the time all indicated that Iran was upholding its side of the deal.

      But because Trump tore it up, Iran’s nuclear program is now more advanced than it would have been under the JCPOA.

      Trump, the genius deal maker, failed repeatedly to negotiate a new one. Nearly every analyst claims that his efforts were doomed from the start.

      But he shifted the onus on Obama and Iran and invented a false pretext to go to war.

      Instead of relying on diplomacy, he bombed Iran *twice* in the middle of negotiations and then launched the US into an unjustified, open-ended, and illegal war of choice.

      Trump went from insisting Iran unconditionally surrender, to accepting a ceasefire proposal that included massive concessions because he *never* had a plan for a drawn out conflict.

      Iran’s demands included sanction relief, war reparations, at least $20 billion in unfrozen assets, control over the Strait of Hormuz and command of their ballistic missile and nuclear weapons programs.

      Also the ability to sell oil at free market rates, to exact tolls on ships and tankers, and to continue funding its proxies and terrorists groups.

      The Islamic Regime was in no position to make these demands before the war.

      Trump also dismissed concerns about Strait of Hormuz closures even though he was explicitly warned that Iran would resort to these countermeasures.

      This led to global trade disruptions, market shocks and surging oil prices, and above all else, gave Iran the perfect bargaining chip.

      Meanwhile, Trump’s war has inflicted a devastating toll on the American and world economy; causing a global energy crisis unlike anything we’ve seen in recent memory.

      Millions have been displaced from their homes and thousands of innocent civilians have been killed; including CHILDREN at the hands of the US military.

      US troops are dead and some of our overseas military bases have been damaged by Iranian missiles.

      Serious war crimes have been committed and US/Israeli bombs have decimated schools, hospitals, heritage sites, non military infrastructure and massive energy facilities.

      Trump’s war has caused irrevocable damages to our alliances.

      Conflict has been reignited between Israel and Hezbollah.

      Our munitions stockpile has been depleted.

      Russia now has the budget revenues to continue funding its war in Ukraine for years.

      China has also benefitted from this war and has made both short and long term strategic gains.

      And worse yet, Trump’s war has hardened the Russia-China-Iran axis. Where once it was a cautious relationship, it is now a more coordinated one.

      In the meantime, the repressive regime is now *more* entrenched than it was before the war and is emerging a more menacing, military dictatorship.

      The IRGC is still a powerful authority in the region and has deeper ties to the hardline Ayatollah.

      Iran still maintains its nuclear materials and missile supplies.

      And the people of Iran have *not* been “liberated.” In fact, id say they’ve been the biggest losers of this war.

      All this is to say that the US has failed to accomplish any of Trump’s constantly shifting “objectives,” and after everything, Iran has only *gained* leverage in negotiations and Trump will be forced to accept a deal that is far more conciliatory than the one Obama negotiated through diplomacy, *not war.*

      Mind you, Iran doesn’t even have to enrich uranium right away. This war has demonstrated that they have other weapons and tools at their disposal to fend off aggressors.

      Iran can also still rebuild its nuclear program and can use the reperations funds it receives from the US to restore its weapons systems and military, or even purchase Chinese weapons and war technologies.

      And maybe what’s most frustrating about all of this is how these outcomes could have been easily avoided if Trump didn’t rip up Obama’s deal out of no other reason than pettiness.

    6. OngoGabl0g1an on

      And no other country will honor deals with the US again knowing they’re not worth the ink used to sign them.

      This is the same guy who bragged about the USMCA in his first term and slapped tariffs on Canada and Mexico as soon as he got back in office, calling it a bad deal.

    7. super_fallguys on

      When your head is entirely warped around the current president, you easily lose touch with reality.

    8. I’m done caring about anything those freaks say. It’s just nonsense. They can say what they like; I’m done listening.

    9. To be fair he did accomplish his main goal. People aren’t talking g about the Trump-Epstein files anymore.

    10. know_limits on

      And an Iran who has now demonstrated that they own the straight of Hormuz and can damage us bases and aircraft with cheap drones.

    11. Not many talking about child rape anymore though. Mission accomplished ⭐️

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