It’s most likely an embedded version of Windows or a newer version with the classic theme
Defiant_Youth_8912 on
If there’s no reason to add Spyware the there is no reason to upgrade
jazzy663 on
Probably installed as part of the train when it was manufactured. I have a soft spot for systems that don’t need Internet to work. Reminds me of that Commodore 64 that was used in an auto repair shop up into the 2000s.
Just never connect it to the Internet and take care of the hardware, and it will continue to work.
Alantsu on
If that scares you, guess what’s running nuclear reactors?
Senkosoda on
if it aint broke dont update it
wanganguy on
dont connect it to the internet
Imadethosehitmanguns on
and it works *perfectly*
Rot-Orkan on
Nothing wrong with that. If it’s secure (not connected to the internet) and does the job, that’s what matters.
And on a side note, look how nice that UI is–everything is clean, you can easily tell at a glance what’s interactable, and it has good information density. All while being able to run on a system that probably has 100x *less memory* than your smart watch does.
Hungover-Owl on
Some of the trains I drive have systems older than windows 98 as the operating system. Our systems are so old I figure it’s a great security feature. You’d have to bring people out of retirement to tamper with them.
tun3man on
Are you sure? Because windows 7 has this visuals if you enable classic desktop theme.
insertAlias on
It could be Windows 2000 (the last of the NT line before that merged with the consumer line). And that’s just judging by the window’s toolbar; the rest of that is just Windows Forms, I could make an application that looked like that on Windows 11 in a few minutes. WinForms hasn’t really changed look-and-feel in a long long time.
Either way, assuming it’s not accessible to the internet, then it’s not really dangerous. The idea is that in certain areas, tested and proven is better than theoretical upgrades that don’t have other obvious returns.
vakantiehuisopwielen on
98 doesn’t have that colour gradient
HubrisOfApollo on
If it works why change it? Years ago I worked as IT at a construction company with an asphalt hotmix plant. They were using an old 286 running a dos based program to control the whole plant. The computer was already like 15 years old when I got there and eventually failed. They were terribly worried about not being able to replace it but my experience with emulation (and playing old DOS game) allowed me to virtualize the whole machine and save the day.
All-the-pizza on
Side note: I hear a lot of schools are replacing Window laptops with Mac NEOs. Windows, Microsoft, are sucking bad lately.
mr_sakitumi on
In my daily commute train my Casio watch has the highest tech.
HiDDENKiLLZ on
On the contrary, it could be a more modern version of windows with this particular application running in compatablity mode
SundayJan2017 on
Do they listen to Winamp?
Metallifan33 on
Wait till you find out what your airplane is running on.
No-Difference-1351 on
It’s not though.
Yaasu on
UK nuclear submarine uses a specific version of Windows xp. As they work enclosed anyway, it’s a non issue
_Aardvark on
UI only a developer could love!
Magrue5185 on
Wait until you hear what a sizeable portion of the global economy and banking systems run on…..
I-Am-Error-42 on
Septa shout out!
desperaterobots on
I used to work for a statewide insurance place running on systems from the 70s.
Survive1014 on
Most of the retail world still runs on mainframe programming. Its crazy.
bjorn60 on
SEPTA Silverliner V I think. Ive ridden on one that had the BSOD
MrSaphique on
95, that’s old. But it’s more common than you’d think mostly because it’s stable AF but also because most systems can’t be update. Let’s hope it’s at least properly locked down.
chewblekka on
Would be funnier if it was running Train Simulator
stanley_leverlock on
If you knew what some “end of the world as we know it” weapon systems were running you’d freak out.
OinkyConfidence on
That’s Windows 2000, but still.
sonofsophia333 on
Windows 98 running a train makes me think of something totally different.
SJBreed on
I truly believe graphical user interfaces peaked with Windows 98.
MangoJerry81 on
Never touch a running system. 😉
Perspective: A current version of Windows would certainly have been broken by Microsoft’s with multiple rotten updates.
cmb1213 on
That’s probably the version of windows from when the train was originally designed.
Bonus is that older systems like that are generally less prone to cyber attacks because they are older than the hackers themselves.
NewAgeMaximum on
no its not.
nn2597713 on
Easier to understand and use interface than any modern computer.
ersenos on
Yeah my 375 southeastern trains use windows 95 in the cabin computer
joe411 on
It’s probably newer than that and is just the classic theme. My guess is it’s Windows 7 as that’s when those SEPTA trains were manufactured.
backinnahm on
Probably something more like windows or embedded but still old af lol
Toedipper19 on
You’re aeroplanes ( b777) are running windows xp
shirk-work on
In Linux there’s fstab.h which has a header file that was written in 1980 so is like 46 years old and is on probably billions of computers. I don’t doubt the banking system has some Fortran code that’s like 60+ years old still in operation or some military equipment with code older than that.
Google says the oldest code still in use is the US Department of Defense’s MOCAS (Mechanization of Contract Administration Services). It was deployed in 1958 to track military contracts and is still actively processing billions of dollars in obligations today. So that’s 68 year old code getting the job done.
Its funny how old code can go from being a vulnerability to a new form of security through obscurity.
ScaleOperator on
honestly this doesn’t even surprise me anymore. I once took a commuter rail where the ticketing kiosk was running XP and had the classic “your system has performed an illegal operation” error just frozen on half the screen. The other half still let you buy tickets somehow. Public transit infrastructure just refuses to die.
hybridhuman17 on
You own a train?
mxlun on
More complexity = more points of failure
Thaumato9480 on
Rule 5, no pictures of screens.
DavidWilliams_121 on
honestly this tracks so hard. I once worked at a place where we were running Windows XP on the cash registers until like 2019 and every single day was a gamble on whether the thing would blue screen mid-transaction. customers loved it.
banelord on
I know it’s not the right Windows version, but I was immiedately reminded of this.
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It’s most likely an embedded version of Windows or a newer version with the classic theme
If there’s no reason to add Spyware the there is no reason to upgrade
Probably installed as part of the train when it was manufactured. I have a soft spot for systems that don’t need Internet to work. Reminds me of that Commodore 64 that was used in an auto repair shop up into the 2000s.
Just never connect it to the Internet and take care of the hardware, and it will continue to work.
If that scares you, guess what’s running nuclear reactors?
if it aint broke dont update it
dont connect it to the internet
and it works *perfectly*
Nothing wrong with that. If it’s secure (not connected to the internet) and does the job, that’s what matters.
And on a side note, look how nice that UI is–everything is clean, you can easily tell at a glance what’s interactable, and it has good information density. All while being able to run on a system that probably has 100x *less memory* than your smart watch does.
Some of the trains I drive have systems older than windows 98 as the operating system. Our systems are so old I figure it’s a great security feature. You’d have to bring people out of retirement to tamper with them.
Are you sure? Because windows 7 has this visuals if you enable classic desktop theme.
It could be Windows 2000 (the last of the NT line before that merged with the consumer line). And that’s just judging by the window’s toolbar; the rest of that is just Windows Forms, I could make an application that looked like that on Windows 11 in a few minutes. WinForms hasn’t really changed look-and-feel in a long long time.
Either way, assuming it’s not accessible to the internet, then it’s not really dangerous. The idea is that in certain areas, tested and proven is better than theoretical upgrades that don’t have other obvious returns.
98 doesn’t have that colour gradient
If it works why change it? Years ago I worked as IT at a construction company with an asphalt hotmix plant. They were using an old 286 running a dos based program to control the whole plant. The computer was already like 15 years old when I got there and eventually failed. They were terribly worried about not being able to replace it but my experience with emulation (and playing old DOS game) allowed me to virtualize the whole machine and save the day.
Side note: I hear a lot of schools are replacing Window laptops with Mac NEOs. Windows, Microsoft, are sucking bad lately.
In my daily commute train my Casio watch has the highest tech.
On the contrary, it could be a more modern version of windows with this particular application running in compatablity mode
Do they listen to Winamp?
Wait till you find out what your airplane is running on.
It’s not though.
UK nuclear submarine uses a specific version of Windows xp. As they work enclosed anyway, it’s a non issue
UI only a developer could love!
Wait until you hear what a sizeable portion of the global economy and banking systems run on…..
Septa shout out!
I used to work for a statewide insurance place running on systems from the 70s.
Most of the retail world still runs on mainframe programming. Its crazy.
SEPTA Silverliner V I think. Ive ridden on one that had the BSOD
95, that’s old. But it’s more common than you’d think mostly because it’s stable AF but also because most systems can’t be update. Let’s hope it’s at least properly locked down.
Would be funnier if it was running Train Simulator
If you knew what some “end of the world as we know it” weapon systems were running you’d freak out.
That’s Windows 2000, but still.
Windows 98 running a train makes me think of something totally different.
I truly believe graphical user interfaces peaked with Windows 98.
Never touch a running system. 😉
Perspective: A current version of Windows would certainly have been broken by Microsoft’s with multiple rotten updates.
That’s probably the version of windows from when the train was originally designed.
Bonus is that older systems like that are generally less prone to cyber attacks because they are older than the hackers themselves.
no its not.
Easier to understand and use interface than any modern computer.
Yeah my 375 southeastern trains use windows 95 in the cabin computer
It’s probably newer than that and is just the classic theme. My guess is it’s Windows 7 as that’s when those SEPTA trains were manufactured.
Probably something more like windows or embedded but still old af lol
You’re aeroplanes ( b777) are running windows xp
In Linux there’s fstab.h which has a header file that was written in 1980 so is like 46 years old and is on probably billions of computers. I don’t doubt the banking system has some Fortran code that’s like 60+ years old still in operation or some military equipment with code older than that.
Google says the oldest code still in use is the US Department of Defense’s MOCAS (Mechanization of Contract Administration Services). It was deployed in 1958 to track military contracts and is still actively processing billions of dollars in obligations today. So that’s 68 year old code getting the job done.
Its funny how old code can go from being a vulnerability to a new form of security through obscurity.
honestly this doesn’t even surprise me anymore. I once took a commuter rail where the ticketing kiosk was running XP and had the classic “your system has performed an illegal operation” error just frozen on half the screen. The other half still let you buy tickets somehow. Public transit infrastructure just refuses to die.
You own a train?
More complexity = more points of failure
Rule 5, no pictures of screens.
honestly this tracks so hard. I once worked at a place where we were running Windows XP on the cash registers until like 2019 and every single day was a gamble on whether the thing would blue screen mid-transaction. customers loved it.
I know it’s not the right Windows version, but I was immiedately reminded of this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxIUs-pQBjk
It’s more likely to be a flavour of NT or Windows Embedded/CE