Divided by politics but united by violence and hatred.
Resolution-Honest on
Who would you rather fight
a) self-sustaining, highly mobile and unpredictable strike force that appears out of nowhere
b) industrialized and militarized nation with some of best navies in the world
c) combo of ubtrained militia and classic large infantry formations
Efficient-Orchid-594 on
China when it’s comes to starve it own citizens 👹
Sampleswift on
To be fair, early Ming era China did push out the Mongols/Yuan.
Also Qing era China also beat some (admittedly horribly out-of-date) Mongol peoples too.
Striking-Nectarine73 on
Tbf Song dynasty withstood the Mongol onslaught far better than its Persian and European contemporaries. Some even argue that, if Song hadn’t lost the northern plains to Jin dynasty, Genghis would’ve had a much harder time breaking into China proper.
Fardrengi on
China fought hard as hell against the Mongols. They just happened to be also fighting hard against themselves too
Free-Appointment-213 on
China has been neighbors with nomadic peoples for two thousand years. You only remember the brief periods of glory of these nomadic peoples, ignoring the fact that they were subjugated by China for most of that time. Japan repeatedly attempted to invade China from the sea and failed, but you only remember World War II.
Most interestingly, the only time the Mongols defeated a Central Plains dynasty, they conveniently swept across Eurasia. This makes Europe look more like a joke.
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Divided by politics but united by violence and hatred.
Who would you rather fight
a) self-sustaining, highly mobile and unpredictable strike force that appears out of nowhere
b) industrialized and militarized nation with some of best navies in the world
c) combo of ubtrained militia and classic large infantry formations
China when it’s comes to starve it own citizens 👹
To be fair, early Ming era China did push out the Mongols/Yuan.
Also Qing era China also beat some (admittedly horribly out-of-date) Mongol peoples too.
Tbf Song dynasty withstood the Mongol onslaught far better than its Persian and European contemporaries. Some even argue that, if Song hadn’t lost the northern plains to Jin dynasty, Genghis would’ve had a much harder time breaking into China proper.
China fought hard as hell against the Mongols. They just happened to be also fighting hard against themselves too
China has been neighbors with nomadic peoples for two thousand years. You only remember the brief periods of glory of these nomadic peoples, ignoring the fact that they were subjugated by China for most of that time. Japan repeatedly attempted to invade China from the sea and failed, but you only remember World War II.
Most interestingly, the only time the Mongols defeated a Central Plains dynasty, they conveniently swept across Eurasia. This makes Europe look more like a joke.