Indians gathered at the Park to celebrate Baisakhi Festival and also protest against Rowlatt Act, and British Forces, surrounded and open fired on them.
I like to imagine how loved and respected the colonial powers would have been if they’d brought only the good stuff (peace, infrastructure, just laws and good government) and not all the bad stuff (genocide, racism, dispossession and easily preventable famine)
Euklidis on
The Brits spreading democracy before it was cool
Thunder_Ducks on
The two are not mutually exclusive. The British Empire committed both great good and great evil, and to boil it down to just one or the other ignores a lot of nuance.
Grand-penetrator on
Who tf thinks the British of all people brought democracy to other places? I’ve seen a lot people claiming colonial powers brought technology, infrastructure or education to their colonies, but democracy is a new one.
TarkovRat_ on
Revisionist brits never claimed they gave India democracy as far as I know, they do claim to bring economic development more like (although the truth of the matter is a lot of what they built was used to supply Britain and their junior partners)
Silencer-1995 on
“Colonel Dyer, if you could have maneuvered the armoured car into the square, would you have opened fire with the machine gun?”
“I think probably yes.”
“Bro.”
volitaiee1233 on
That has nothing to do with democracy.
_Dead_Man_ on
America sucks pretty bad right now. But… I think britian in the 1800s was worse. They could get away with more.
nothingandnemo on
God forbid a man be robust
Kraj_the_Conqueror on
It’s almost as if understanding of “democracy” widely changed over time.
baneblade_boi on
Watch out! He has a book!
SirDorkusMalorkus on
Can’t have a democracy omelette without cracking a few peaceful gathering eggs
SlaughterSpine78 on
And Udham Singh killed the man who ordered the massacre Michael O’Dwyer
Kamenev_Drang on
Ah you mean like *checks notes* Indira Ghandi did thirty years later?
Conceptually the globalisation that accompanied colonial expansion did ensure the spread of Western ideas like democracy, universal suffrage etc cetera. It also spread Maoism, fascism, free market capitalism and other less palatable ideas so let’s not pretend it’s an unqualified good.
The one unqualified good thing Britain did for India was uniting it and ending the milennia plus of endless war that had persisted since the death of Ashoka.
Familiar_Effect9136 on
Isn’t that a part of true freedom and democracy.
Also here is a qoute from Don Tzu:
Democracy is when civillians can be persecuted by the will of its leaders.
Note:I don’t think anyone says that the British spread democracy but ok.
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I like to imagine how loved and respected the colonial powers would have been if they’d brought only the good stuff (peace, infrastructure, just laws and good government) and not all the bad stuff (genocide, racism, dispossession and easily preventable famine)
The Brits spreading democracy before it was cool
The two are not mutually exclusive. The British Empire committed both great good and great evil, and to boil it down to just one or the other ignores a lot of nuance.
Who tf thinks the British of all people brought democracy to other places? I’ve seen a lot people claiming colonial powers brought technology, infrastructure or education to their colonies, but democracy is a new one.
Revisionist brits never claimed they gave India democracy as far as I know, they do claim to bring economic development more like (although the truth of the matter is a lot of what they built was used to supply Britain and their junior partners)
“Colonel Dyer, if you could have maneuvered the armoured car into the square, would you have opened fire with the machine gun?”
“I think probably yes.”
“Bro.”
That has nothing to do with democracy.
America sucks pretty bad right now. But… I think britian in the 1800s was worse. They could get away with more.
God forbid a man be robust
It’s almost as if understanding of “democracy” widely changed over time.
Watch out! He has a book!
Can’t have a democracy omelette without cracking a few peaceful gathering eggs
And Udham Singh killed the man who ordered the massacre Michael O’Dwyer
Ah you mean like *checks notes* Indira Ghandi did thirty years later?
Conceptually the globalisation that accompanied colonial expansion did ensure the spread of Western ideas like democracy, universal suffrage etc cetera. It also spread Maoism, fascism, free market capitalism and other less palatable ideas so let’s not pretend it’s an unqualified good.
The one unqualified good thing Britain did for India was uniting it and ending the milennia plus of endless war that had persisted since the death of Ashoka.
Isn’t that a part of true freedom and democracy.
Also here is a qoute from Don Tzu:
Democracy is when civillians can be persecuted by the will of its leaders.
Note:I don’t think anyone says that the British spread democracy but ok.
Slow-moving Nazis.