Churchill and Truman (Roosevelt was dead) both knew and understood, yes. We have their administrations’ records and their personal papers in national archives. They simply also knew and understood that the only way to make it not that way was to fight WWIII. And nobody was willing to do that.
Etherealwarbear on
From the tyranny we could feasibly stop without halving the world population.
Deadluss on
Poland? Do we even know this guy?
sugarvelle on
We did it Patrick we saved half the city from the other half of the city.
BasedAustralhungary on
I think that’s still way better than being a puppet under Germany schizo-supremacist-expansionist regime ngl. Not like Stalin was precisely a saint (besides his mom wanting him to become a priest lol) but I’d still say that this outcome is still pretty good considering how insane were the circunstances.
This not to mention that besides Czechoslovachia (that iirc could have even prevented in a certain moment the communist take over, if only the politicians from other parties didn’t leave the assembly basically leaving all the effective power on marxist-leninist) those countries had not any democratic tradition. I’d say that we can say some consequences of that reality after the end of the Cold War like the origin of Illiberal Democracy coined by Viktor Orban.
Of course one could argue that democracy tradition is made, not something you are granted by divine right, but I still think that even if Stalin decided to basically don’t expand his influence it’s highly possible some of those countries reverted again to authoritarian dictatorships. However, It’s also worth to note that it could be that same circunstances the one that trigger Czechoslovachian Golden Age considering how good was its economy and how strong were both its institutions and its industry before the German aggresion.
If I have to think about the others, I think that both Poland and Hungary would have some sort of authoritarian regimes but probably would become slighty less authoritarian during the sixties and even democratic during the seventies. I have nothing to say about Bulgaria and Romania tho.
Where are the tankies? Can someone please tell me why murdering people is a good thing?!
Busy-Satisfaction554 on
Well FDR died before the war ended so
Frosty_Grab5914 on
Soviet troops left Austria in exchange for their neutrality. Was this agreed with Churchill and FDR? I wonder if any other countries could have negotiated similar terms.
godkingnaoki on
Lol. The British EMPIRE had something to say about tyranny.
hungarian_conartist on
Bad meme. Churchill is the one who coined the term “iron curtain”.
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Wait a minute Franklin died
Tyranny is, in fact, preferable to genocide
Churchill and Truman (Roosevelt was dead) both knew and understood, yes. We have their administrations’ records and their personal papers in national archives. They simply also knew and understood that the only way to make it not that way was to fight WWIII. And nobody was willing to do that.
From the tyranny we could feasibly stop without halving the world population.
Poland? Do we even know this guy?
We did it Patrick we saved half the city from the other half of the city.
I think that’s still way better than being a puppet under Germany schizo-supremacist-expansionist regime ngl. Not like Stalin was precisely a saint (besides his mom wanting him to become a priest lol) but I’d still say that this outcome is still pretty good considering how insane were the circunstances.
This not to mention that besides Czechoslovachia (that iirc could have even prevented in a certain moment the communist take over, if only the politicians from other parties didn’t leave the assembly basically leaving all the effective power on marxist-leninist) those countries had not any democratic tradition. I’d say that we can say some consequences of that reality after the end of the Cold War like the origin of Illiberal Democracy coined by Viktor Orban.
Of course one could argue that democracy tradition is made, not something you are granted by divine right, but I still think that even if Stalin decided to basically don’t expand his influence it’s highly possible some of those countries reverted again to authoritarian dictatorships. However, It’s also worth to note that it could be that same circunstances the one that trigger Czechoslovachian Golden Age considering how good was its economy and how strong were both its institutions and its industry before the German aggresion.
If I have to think about the others, I think that both Poland and Hungary would have some sort of authoritarian regimes but probably would become slighty less authoritarian during the sixties and even democratic during the seventies. I have nothing to say about Bulgaria and Romania tho.
Somebody hasn’t heard of [Operation Unthinkable](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Unthinkable)
out of the fire, into the soviet pan
Where are the tankies? Can someone please tell me why murdering people is a good thing?!
Well FDR died before the war ended so
Soviet troops left Austria in exchange for their neutrality. Was this agreed with Churchill and FDR? I wonder if any other countries could have negotiated similar terms.
Lol. The British EMPIRE had something to say about tyranny.
Bad meme. Churchill is the one who coined the term “iron curtain”.