Rome didn’t collapse 20,000 to 15,000 years ago during the Last Glacial Maximum?
NeedsToShutUp on
40.
Marechail on
Wait, the Roman Empire fell ?
Moose-Rage on
Well yeah. The Age of Exploration was spurred by the ERE’s collapse and Ottomans taking over the Silk Road so Christian kingdoms wanted to find an alternative route to India. So they sailed and guess what was in the way…
MinuteWaitingPostman on
Coincidentally, the two are sort of related.
After the Ottomans took over, they began imposing heftier and heftier tolls on trade from the Far East, so European powers begame increasingly interested in seeing if modern ships could sail across the world and reach India that way. As it turned out, there was a whole two continents on the route
EatTheRichIsPraxis on
The French found out the Basques had been in North America, because the First Nations greeted French traders in Algonquian-Basque pidgin.
delscorch0 on
I guess that would be 971, since L’Anse aux Meadows was settled in 1021 in Newfoundlland
FloZone on
Juan de Fuca was a Graeco-Spanish explorer and son or grandson of a Byzantine admiral iirc. There must have been a few who switched into Spanish service.
The_Letter_W on
It’s also weird to think that the Aztec empire fell the same year that Martin Luther was excommunicated.
Karuzus on
Well that’s not true America was disvovered while Eastern Roman Empire still stood.
Daveallen10 on
Ah, the age old debate of “when did Rome fall?”
I would argue the Byzantine Empire was a successor state distinct from “true” Rome.
*Grabs popcorn*
Ulfurson on
Really what OP means is that “one of the times America was discovered took place less than 50 years after one of the times Rome fell”
ux3l on
Because we/many people still associate the Roman Empire with the western Roman empire
EnamelKant on
I really feel learning there was a whole new continent full of barbarian tribes just waiting to be subdued for The Glory of Rome would have really revitalized the Empire.
We could have gotten a Commentarii de Bello Americo. A new Caesar crossing the Gulf of St Lawrence (and immediately turning back around). A census written in Greek for some reason. Would have been awesome.
Mg42gun on
Wrong, Leif Erikson reach North America when Eastern Roman Empire still exist
Lenz_Mastigia on
You mean, the american civil war ended less than 60 years after the roman empire truly fell…
Goldiizz on
Nintendo and the Holy Roman Empire existed within the same century
Dantez77 on
I’m sorry but didn’t Leif Erikson arrive to the Americas around the year 1000AD? How is this claim reasonable?
Succulent_Relic on
The question of “when the Americas” were discovered has several answers. Columbus was not the first, Leif Erikson did it before him. But given they came upon a people there, that means the Vikings weren’t the first either.
GenosseAbfuck on
The Americas were discovered long before Rome. The Americas were discovered a few centuries after the end of Rome. The Americas were discovered 50 years after the end of Rome.
Hinote1 on
We all know it was none other than Leif Eriksson who discovered Vinland. Truly a historic moment
Content-Audience252 on
We are the Roman Empire
GustavoistSoldier on
If Constantinople hadn’t fallen, the European colonization of the Americas would at least be delayed
KleeGirl09 on
the more you know….
MrDixaze on
Less than 20 if you consider Theodoros to be the last remnant of the empire. Also you could say the americas were discovered centuries aftee the discoveries of the americas depending on the different events (natives, vikings, polynesians, maybe basques but not sure, maybe malians but not sure, …)
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Rome didn’t collapse 20,000 to 15,000 years ago during the Last Glacial Maximum?
40.
Wait, the Roman Empire fell ?
Well yeah. The Age of Exploration was spurred by the ERE’s collapse and Ottomans taking over the Silk Road so Christian kingdoms wanted to find an alternative route to India. So they sailed and guess what was in the way…
Coincidentally, the two are sort of related.
After the Ottomans took over, they began imposing heftier and heftier tolls on trade from the Far East, so European powers begame increasingly interested in seeing if modern ships could sail across the world and reach India that way. As it turned out, there was a whole two continents on the route
The French found out the Basques had been in North America, because the First Nations greeted French traders in Algonquian-Basque pidgin.
I guess that would be 971, since L’Anse aux Meadows was settled in 1021 in Newfoundlland
Juan de Fuca was a Graeco-Spanish explorer and son or grandson of a Byzantine admiral iirc. There must have been a few who switched into Spanish service.
It’s also weird to think that the Aztec empire fell the same year that Martin Luther was excommunicated.
Well that’s not true America was disvovered while Eastern Roman Empire still stood.
Ah, the age old debate of “when did Rome fall?”
I would argue the Byzantine Empire was a successor state distinct from “true” Rome.
*Grabs popcorn*
Really what OP means is that “one of the times America was discovered took place less than 50 years after one of the times Rome fell”
Because we/many people still associate the Roman Empire with the western Roman empire
I really feel learning there was a whole new continent full of barbarian tribes just waiting to be subdued for The Glory of Rome would have really revitalized the Empire.
We could have gotten a Commentarii de Bello Americo. A new Caesar crossing the Gulf of St Lawrence (and immediately turning back around). A census written in Greek for some reason. Would have been awesome.
Wrong, Leif Erikson reach North America when Eastern Roman Empire still exist
You mean, the american civil war ended less than 60 years after the roman empire truly fell…
Nintendo and the Holy Roman Empire existed within the same century
I’m sorry but didn’t Leif Erikson arrive to the Americas around the year 1000AD? How is this claim reasonable?
The question of “when the Americas” were discovered has several answers. Columbus was not the first, Leif Erikson did it before him. But given they came upon a people there, that means the Vikings weren’t the first either.
The Americas were discovered long before Rome. The Americas were discovered a few centuries after the end of Rome. The Americas were discovered 50 years after the end of Rome.
We all know it was none other than Leif Eriksson who discovered Vinland. Truly a historic moment
We are the Roman Empire
If Constantinople hadn’t fallen, the European colonization of the Americas would at least be delayed
the more you know….
Less than 20 if you consider Theodoros to be the last remnant of the empire. Also you could say the americas were discovered centuries aftee the discoveries of the americas depending on the different events (natives, vikings, polynesians, maybe basques but not sure, maybe malians but not sure, …)