Diversity is a byproduct of good storytelling, not a replacement for it.
OptionAshamed6458 on
no they stated themselves back then they were trying
Only_Government5244 on
I mean, I was too young to give e a shit. But my uncle in the 2000s was very “Disney is forcing a warped liberal narrative”. He said this in the 2000s and I am sure many adults did too.
But we were stupid kids with zero political awareness.
Animeking1108 on
This is even better the twelfth time it was reposted.
NiceLittleLie on
100%. If any of these came out today, the grifterverse would be whining endlessly
Bored_Orangutan on
Disney was also more inclusive when their main female lead wasn’t an adorkable awkward girl/woman every. single. time.
Bannon9k on
It was. They were works of passion. Today Disney is just delivering corpo slop
masterjon_3 on
Tiana was a black woman for only 20% of the movie. The rest of the time, she was a frog.
_SableHaze on
There is a huge difference between organic representation and checking boxes to satisfy a corporate board
8champi8 on
It’s not about inclusivity, the movies are just bad now
Embarrassed-Dust718 on
Brother bear needs more recognition.
DemiBlonde on
OP wasn’t alive for the public freak out and complaints about princess and the frog. Sooooo…. No
improbable_humanoid on
Do you honestly think this wasn’t them trying to be inclusive by the standards of the era?
If so, I have some lovely swampfront property in Florida I would love to unload on you.
samenumberwhodis on
Movies and shows have been diverse and tackled difficult issues of race and gender and inclusivity for decades. It’s exacerbated by bad writing that beats you over the head with it rather than using subtlety and good story telling. Studios want to pay writers less, and use AI, and the product has suffered for it. The rule in moving pictures is show, don’t tell, but when you feel you have to dictate absolutely everything to cater to an audience that scrolls on their phone instead of watching it’s obnoxious.
TraditionalWolf1358 on
There were people complaining about diversity then, you just didn’t see it cause we weren’t online and talking the way we are now
Cheap_Cheap77 on
3/4 protagonists in this meme transform into an animal for the majority of their movie. Probably not intentional but it’s weird it happened 3 times.
CzernobogCheckers on
They were trying hard to be, and people did dislike it. You’re telling me they had a span of years where they came out with (at least these) four films featuring non-white characters and you think they just accidentally did that? And I definitely remember adults being generally unhappy at the idea of Tiana. This is just “most of us don’t care because we were kids”
Outrageous_Otter_ on
naaahh Disney stayed the same, the world just got more racist
Craydorion on
This such bs. So you think they had all this diversity by accident? Wtf???
I personally think that they’re trying to sabotage diversity by making it look bad. You know, make a bad movie, slap some diversity on it. And for some reason people say it’s bad because of diversity and not because it’s a shit movie 🤡
thomasrat1 on
Disney was always trying to be inclusive.
These movies caused controversy too.
It’s just that Disney used to also give us good stories.
Redninja0400 on
It’s still not trying. The difference between then and now is that now we have a resurgence of nazis and grifters that want you to be mad about seeing black people on a screen.
Noe_b0dy on
I remember when people were mad about Tiana.
jadegives2rides on
People always complained. The difference is they’re louder now and have a bigger platform thanks to social media.
RepresentativeGolf19 on
I think these are all instances of Disney trying to be inclusive. Do you think they are not?
Scared_Blackberry280 on
But they were trying….
thupamayn on
It used to happen naturally until companies realized they could accrue virtue points like a p2w currency
LoneLyon on
The social political environment is just a shit show now.
If alot of the movies/shows from the 90s/early 2000s came out today they would almost definitely be labeled “woke”.
People would lose their shit over captain planet and transformers would be labeled trans propaganda or some shit. Diversity has existed since the 90s/2000s, it just happened to become an bigger “issue” with a certain group over the last decade.
Valirys-Reinhald on
People who say this have forgotten how hard the people who created these stories fought for them to exist, they were absolutely trying back then.
throwaway_01923940 on
Guarantee if these movies were released today y’all would be calling them apart of the “woke agenda” lol
AbeFromansNutz on
If only they were inclusive of their own artists
Monk-ish on
The difference between now and then is that most forget that people complained about “forced diversity” back then too and accused Disney of “pandering”
ManitouWakinyan on
Lol I like having an all white cast playing Indigenous Incans is counting as “more inclusive.” Really nice of them to give that John Goodman guy a break, and he brought so much diversity and authenticity to that film
Steggs_ on
No. Disney has always been the same, the weird chud moral panic has just taken hold of you over the last few years.
GoatDifferent1294 on
Nothing fucking changed. You’re just hopping on a bandwagon from your reactive echochambers. If any of those fucking movies came out today you’d be complaining the same way.
Famous-Rain8703 on
Ironically this is when they started trying hard
You supposed to shows how out of touch you are with reality
FrankTruth69 on
I think it took them along time to get there
opiniongiver_ on
Nowadays, if you add any character that is from any other culture, it is now considered “DEI” God forbid other people from different cultures are shown on TV
Hopeful-Mall-2209 on
LMAO if these movies were made today they would be called “woke”
CatherineSimp69 on
But they were trying.
You just didn’t care about it back then because you weren’t brainwashed by chud talking points.
CakyMint on
I think they always tried being inclusive
But the main difference is, they didn’t forced it.
They haven’t made Malcolm x a white teenage girl, Einstein a black trans pregnant gender neutral lesbian
A natural form of diversity is good. Because everyone likes it
BabyElectronic1759 on
I’m just gonna paste the same response as always.
No, the issue is that back then you were an innocent kid, not a 30-something dude radicalized by right-wing podcasts and grifters telling you that you have to be mad about it.
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Agree
Definitely and that’s why it was good.
Diversity is a byproduct of good storytelling, not a replacement for it.
no they stated themselves back then they were trying
I mean, I was too young to give e a shit. But my uncle in the 2000s was very “Disney is forcing a warped liberal narrative”. He said this in the 2000s and I am sure many adults did too.
But we were stupid kids with zero political awareness.
This is even better the twelfth time it was reposted.
100%. If any of these came out today, the grifterverse would be whining endlessly
Disney was also more inclusive when their main female lead wasn’t an adorkable awkward girl/woman every. single. time.
It was. They were works of passion. Today Disney is just delivering corpo slop
Tiana was a black woman for only 20% of the movie. The rest of the time, she was a frog.
There is a huge difference between organic representation and checking boxes to satisfy a corporate board
It’s not about inclusivity, the movies are just bad now
Brother bear needs more recognition.
OP wasn’t alive for the public freak out and complaints about princess and the frog. Sooooo…. No
Do you honestly think this wasn’t them trying to be inclusive by the standards of the era?
If so, I have some lovely swampfront property in Florida I would love to unload on you.
Movies and shows have been diverse and tackled difficult issues of race and gender and inclusivity for decades. It’s exacerbated by bad writing that beats you over the head with it rather than using subtlety and good story telling. Studios want to pay writers less, and use AI, and the product has suffered for it. The rule in moving pictures is show, don’t tell, but when you feel you have to dictate absolutely everything to cater to an audience that scrolls on their phone instead of watching it’s obnoxious.
There were people complaining about diversity then, you just didn’t see it cause we weren’t online and talking the way we are now
3/4 protagonists in this meme transform into an animal for the majority of their movie. Probably not intentional but it’s weird it happened 3 times.
They were trying hard to be, and people did dislike it. You’re telling me they had a span of years where they came out with (at least these) four films featuring non-white characters and you think they just accidentally did that? And I definitely remember adults being generally unhappy at the idea of Tiana. This is just “most of us don’t care because we were kids”
naaahh Disney stayed the same, the world just got more racist
This such bs. So you think they had all this diversity by accident? Wtf???
I personally think that they’re trying to sabotage diversity by making it look bad. You know, make a bad movie, slap some diversity on it. And for some reason people say it’s bad because of diversity and not because it’s a shit movie 🤡
Disney was always trying to be inclusive.
These movies caused controversy too.
It’s just that Disney used to also give us good stories.
It’s still not trying. The difference between then and now is that now we have a resurgence of nazis and grifters that want you to be mad about seeing black people on a screen.
I remember when people were mad about Tiana.
People always complained. The difference is they’re louder now and have a bigger platform thanks to social media.
I think these are all instances of Disney trying to be inclusive. Do you think they are not?
But they were trying….
It used to happen naturally until companies realized they could accrue virtue points like a p2w currency
The social political environment is just a shit show now.
If alot of the movies/shows from the 90s/early 2000s came out today they would almost definitely be labeled “woke”.
People would lose their shit over captain planet and transformers would be labeled trans propaganda or some shit. Diversity has existed since the 90s/2000s, it just happened to become an bigger “issue” with a certain group over the last decade.
People who say this have forgotten how hard the people who created these stories fought for them to exist, they were absolutely trying back then.
Guarantee if these movies were released today y’all would be calling them apart of the “woke agenda” lol
If only they were inclusive of their own artists
The difference between now and then is that most forget that people complained about “forced diversity” back then too and accused Disney of “pandering”
Lol I like having an all white cast playing Indigenous Incans is counting as “more inclusive.” Really nice of them to give that John Goodman guy a break, and he brought so much diversity and authenticity to that film
No. Disney has always been the same, the weird chud moral panic has just taken hold of you over the last few years.
Nothing fucking changed. You’re just hopping on a bandwagon from your reactive echochambers. If any of those fucking movies came out today you’d be complaining the same way.
Ironically this is when they started trying hard
You supposed to shows how out of touch you are with reality
I think it took them along time to get there
Nowadays, if you add any character that is from any other culture, it is now considered “DEI” God forbid other people from different cultures are shown on TV
LMAO if these movies were made today they would be called “woke”
But they were trying.
You just didn’t care about it back then because you weren’t brainwashed by chud talking points.
I think they always tried being inclusive
But the main difference is, they didn’t forced it.
They haven’t made Malcolm x a white teenage girl, Einstein a black trans pregnant gender neutral lesbian
A natural form of diversity is good. Because everyone likes it
I’m just gonna paste the same response as always.
No, the issue is that back then you were an innocent kid, not a 30-something dude radicalized by right-wing podcasts and grifters telling you that you have to be mad about it.