Hutu militants killed somewhere between 700k and a million Tutsis in a span of 3 months with mostly machetes, clubs and other blunt weapons. Meanwhile the Nazis had high advanced infrastructure and almost a decade of planning, yet we are expected to believe they only got 272k people in over 3 years?
Thick-Ad-4168 on
adding to the point-
during the 1971 Bangladeshi genocide , Pakistani army brutally killed between 1 million to 3 million Bangladeshis in a span of 6 months
This reminds me of the people claiming that 30 000 dead Iranian protestors in a few months is unrealistic. For fucks sake, the Byzantines killed more than that in a single city in a single day in the 6th century (Nika riots). And the idea that an authoritarian theocracy would refuse to kill the protestors actively trying to bring down the regime is laughable
Armageddonis on
Yeah, if we’re talking strictly about the ratio of deaths to time in which they were dealt, nazis were on the slow end of the spectrum due to their desire to first extort as much slave labour out of their victims. Humans can be surprisingly efficient at killing each other when that’s all there is on their minds, depending on the circumstances. At Cannae, Carthaginians slaughtered 50000+ Romans in a single afternoon with swords and spears.
strong_division on
People also meme about German efficiency but refuse to acknowledge that the 6 million figure was possible largely in part to how disgustingly systematic and efficient the Nazis made their system. They literally industrialized and streamlined the process of genocide the way modern factories streamline manufacturing.
NewSpecific9417 on
I wish we had intervened 🙁
TBTabby on
They’re probably just start claiming the Rwandan genocide is fake as well. Conspiracy theorists, despite what they claim, don’t give a damn what the truth is. They believe what they want to believe because they want to believe.
dimachka34 on
Wrong
Any-Ad-4072 on
Wait until you learn about ww2
Luke92612_ on
Hotel Rwanda is a very depressing film about the genocide, I encourage everyone who hasn’t seen it yet to watch it.
Interesting-Dream863 on
Well you know the germans… everything has a bureaucracy in the middle. They were never just out to kill… they wanted to enslave, take everything of value…
That takes longer.
GustavoistSoldier on
Genocide denial is inherently irrational.
SmoothGardens on
And also.. 3 years? That’s less than half of the actual time
cplforlife on
Cambodia did 3 million in just over 3 years.
25% of their own population.
They tried, but in their defense. They had a much smaller area and population to work with.
CS-1316 on
They don’t actually disbelieve the logistics, they’re just creating a permission structure for saying that the Jews are dirty liars
Impossible-Wear9834 on
Via German documents we learned that Auschwitz alone could kill about 5000 people daily. 6 milion is the correct estimate.
Ada_Pearce on
Most of those 800k were killed in the first month too
CorrectTarget8957 on
Btw they killed 27m soviets in 4 years
Xx21beastmode88 on
Also another fun fact about these people is that they will deny this number but claim that 60 million Christians were killed in 2 years during the soviet revolution.
Thrusher1337 on
Even if it wasn’t 6mil and it was 700k, as some of them claim, wouldn’t that still be a genocide?
I’ve had this exact conversation with a holocaust denier and when I asked him this question, his face went blank. It wasn’t even funny, it was straight up sad that the though never even crossed his mind.
Diabolical_potplant on
Killing people is rather easy when you put them all into a fenced in area and just, don’t feed them.
Daan776 on
6 million also excludes a lot of people that were also murdered.
6 million jews ignores the gays, gypsies, prisoners of war, communists (or other opposition), etc.
Like, imagine how many bullets are fired in a war. Now imagine if all those bullets were killshots. That would be a mass execution. And execution by gunfire was one of the slower methods the nazi’s had.
They were on the slow end. Not only because they first extorted as much labor as possible. But also because the nazi’s were meticulous with their documentation (something which would later bite them in the ass). They didn’t just kill people. They exploited them for all they had first. And since humans are resillient: that took a lot of time.
Spartak_Gavvygavgav on
With machetes.
Uruz_Line on
It would help to get actually data though not propaganda.
The 6 million is also a number reported BEFORE ww2 even started, in news regarding them.
But even besides that, it is a fact that history, especially as I was taught focused solely on them, I was never taught at the other countless millions that lost their lives, civilians alike, it was a huge focus on the chambers and little else.
This obviously allows for a huge question mark to then be exploited by those who would rewrite history for their needs.
On the other hand there’s plethora of factual proof that “them” were indeed a target because of propaganda aimed at dividing people….. and not too far from whats going on today socially speaking, really hard to overlook that and simply say “thats waicist” or “anti-them”.
Makaoka on
Some sociopath somewhere : “But can we do it faster?”
RedShirtCashion on
This is one of those moments where I feel like more people need to watch the HBO film *Conspiracy*. The fact that they used the actual notes from the meeting to make the film is probably what makes it the most terrifying, especially when you realize that it was only one person not destroying them being the difference between us knowing about the fact it was planned and not.
Desperate-Win9344 on
Yeah that´s why the holocaust was a never seen before sort of genocide, it involved industrial size and planning of extermination. Literal killing machines
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Hutu militants killed somewhere between 700k and a million Tutsis in a span of 3 months with mostly machetes, clubs and other blunt weapons. Meanwhile the Nazis had high advanced infrastructure and almost a decade of planning, yet we are expected to believe they only got 272k people in over 3 years?
adding to the point-
during the 1971 Bangladeshi genocide , Pakistani army brutally killed between 1 million to 3 million Bangladeshis in a span of 6 months
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangladesh_genocide](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangladesh_genocide)
This reminds me of the people claiming that 30 000 dead Iranian protestors in a few months is unrealistic. For fucks sake, the Byzantines killed more than that in a single city in a single day in the 6th century (Nika riots). And the idea that an authoritarian theocracy would refuse to kill the protestors actively trying to bring down the regime is laughable
Yeah, if we’re talking strictly about the ratio of deaths to time in which they were dealt, nazis were on the slow end of the spectrum due to their desire to first extort as much slave labour out of their victims. Humans can be surprisingly efficient at killing each other when that’s all there is on their minds, depending on the circumstances. At Cannae, Carthaginians slaughtered 50000+ Romans in a single afternoon with swords and spears.
People also meme about German efficiency but refuse to acknowledge that the 6 million figure was possible largely in part to how disgustingly systematic and efficient the Nazis made their system. They literally industrialized and streamlined the process of genocide the way modern factories streamline manufacturing.
I wish we had intervened 🙁
They’re probably just start claiming the Rwandan genocide is fake as well. Conspiracy theorists, despite what they claim, don’t give a damn what the truth is. They believe what they want to believe because they want to believe.
Wrong
Wait until you learn about ww2
Hotel Rwanda is a very depressing film about the genocide, I encourage everyone who hasn’t seen it yet to watch it.
Well you know the germans… everything has a bureaucracy in the middle. They were never just out to kill… they wanted to enslave, take everything of value…
That takes longer.
Genocide denial is inherently irrational.
And also.. 3 years? That’s less than half of the actual time
Cambodia did 3 million in just over 3 years.
25% of their own population.
They tried, but in their defense. They had a much smaller area and population to work with.
They don’t actually disbelieve the logistics, they’re just creating a permission structure for saying that the Jews are dirty liars
Via German documents we learned that Auschwitz alone could kill about 5000 people daily. 6 milion is the correct estimate.
Most of those 800k were killed in the first month too
Btw they killed 27m soviets in 4 years
Also another fun fact about these people is that they will deny this number but claim that 60 million Christians were killed in 2 years during the soviet revolution.
Even if it wasn’t 6mil and it was 700k, as some of them claim, wouldn’t that still be a genocide?
I’ve had this exact conversation with a holocaust denier and when I asked him this question, his face went blank. It wasn’t even funny, it was straight up sad that the though never even crossed his mind.
Killing people is rather easy when you put them all into a fenced in area and just, don’t feed them.
6 million also excludes a lot of people that were also murdered.
6 million jews ignores the gays, gypsies, prisoners of war, communists (or other opposition), etc.
Like, imagine how many bullets are fired in a war. Now imagine if all those bullets were killshots. That would be a mass execution. And execution by gunfire was one of the slower methods the nazi’s had.
They were on the slow end. Not only because they first extorted as much labor as possible. But also because the nazi’s were meticulous with their documentation (something which would later bite them in the ass). They didn’t just kill people. They exploited them for all they had first. And since humans are resillient: that took a lot of time.
With machetes.
It would help to get actually data though not propaganda.
The 6 million is also a number reported BEFORE ww2 even started, in news regarding them.
But even besides that, it is a fact that history, especially as I was taught focused solely on them, I was never taught at the other countless millions that lost their lives, civilians alike, it was a huge focus on the chambers and little else.
This obviously allows for a huge question mark to then be exploited by those who would rewrite history for their needs.
On the other hand there’s plethora of factual proof that “them” were indeed a target because of propaganda aimed at dividing people….. and not too far from whats going on today socially speaking, really hard to overlook that and simply say “thats waicist” or “anti-them”.
Some sociopath somewhere : “But can we do it faster?”
This is one of those moments where I feel like more people need to watch the HBO film *Conspiracy*. The fact that they used the actual notes from the meeting to make the film is probably what makes it the most terrifying, especially when you realize that it was only one person not destroying them being the difference between us knowing about the fact it was planned and not.
Yeah that´s why the holocaust was a never seen before sort of genocide, it involved industrial size and planning of extermination. Literal killing machines