Democrats are about to beat the shit out of Republicans in the midterms.
Also, leftist arent even trying to beat incumbent republicans. Only Democrats are running in swing districts to flip seats, with the exception of graham platner
NeonGKayak on
The only thing far leftists attack are Dems. They also don’t vote Dem if they even vote. There’s no reason to bend the knee to people that villainize you and not willing to work with you
sadmep on
Maybe democrats AND leftists both need to get their shit together. Just saying.
IMasterCheeksI on
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sdmichael on
More proof that Republicans are physically incapable of accepting responsibility for anything at any time. Always the fault of someone else.
Their version of “compromise” is doing it their way or not at all. They cannot govern.
To0zday on
If you plan on sitting out 2028 because the democrat didn’t *inspire* you enough to fight fascism, you can fuck right off. You’re not a part of any political coalition that I’m part of.
You have no idea what I’d be willing to stoop to in order to defeat MAGA fascists
Buddha-Embryo on
There are far more progressives abandoned by the party than there will ever be of right-wingers who are going to vote for dems.
It’s been a losing strategy from the beginning …but the dems would much rather lose than feel pressure to implement a progressive agenda…
Gynthaeres on
This post kinda demonstrates why the Democrats are like this. Democrats can’t really do much to appease the far left. Anything they do will never be good enough, short of a full socialist revolution.
I mean hell a chunk of the far left refused to vote for Harris over Palestine, because Biden wasn’t coming down hard enough on Israel. This should’ve been a no brainer, obviously Democrats would be better than Trump for Palestine, Democrats want a two state solution while Republicans want an Israel-first solution. But nope! Democrats didn’t 100% disavow and cut ties with a middle-eastern ally, so no vote.
Worked out real well for Palestine under Trump, right?
Meanwhile, Republicans? Democrats kinda have to get Republican votes to do ANYTHING. All of these big, sweeping changes leftists want? Until Democrats control the majority of the House, have ~65 seats in the Senate, and have the presidency, the Democrats NEED at least a couple Republican votes to do anything at all. Because that’s the way our government works, you need 60 votes to achieve anything meaningful in the Senate, or a majority to achieve basic stuff.
So again, this post demonstrates why Democrats don’t waste time trying to appease the far left: Those people will never vote for them anyway, and in part because they don’t understand how the government works.
brokencreedman on
I mean, the difference is: there are more centrists/independents than there are far left voters, at least, as far as I know? So you have to dedicate a ton of your platform and time courting those in the middle. If you go TOO left, you’ll alienate a huge chunk of the voters that you need.
The problem that I’ve observed with the left/far left is that they refuse to see that progress is slow. If a candidate doesn’t hit EVERY ONE of their criteria, then they won’t vote for that candidate. But that’s not how the system currently works or operates. The Democrat candidate is going to not hit all your check boxes, but they’ll hit MORE checkboxes than the Republican candidate will.
The left will NEVER get what they want if they continue to refuse to vote for the person that’s not a Republican because that person isn’t perfect. Yes, we want universal healthcare, we want gay marriage enshrined, we want people to be treated like people no matter who they are, we don’t want anyone to lose their rights. But if we refuse to vote for a candidate because they don’t hold EVERY SINGLE value that we hold, then we lose the fight. We can’t get universal healthcare if we continue to allow Republicans to get in office.
So fight for the candidates that you want. But, if your candidate doesn’t win the primary and they aren’t on the ballot, then you HAVE to vote for the Democrat that IS on the ballot. Does it suck? Sure. But it’s WAY better than what we have now, and if the left/far left had gotten that through their heads and figured it out in 2024, maybe we wouldn’t be in the mess we are in now. Did Kamala suck in some ways? Sure. But she would’ve been 1000x better than what we currently have.
By not voting for the candidate that is presented to you, because you have this privileged mindset of being able to survive the nightmare cuz you aren’t a marginalized person, you are hurting those who are ACTUALLY marginalized in our society.
And yes, in a way, those who refuse to vote AGAINST fascism by voting for the only other viable candidate in an election (third party is NOT viable currently in our broken system), you are, in a way, voting for fascism.
According-Insect-992 on
I’m progressive and have been for over twenty years. My party has routinely disappointed me and is in bad need of reform.
That being said, that’s no excuse to just give the nation to fascists. At least the Democratic Party is reformable. There are several people in it that I mostly agree with. There’s nothing of the sort among the repugs.
If they aren’t stopped in November they will have everything they need to complete their plan of a perpetual one party rule.
We need to do our duty to oppose the fascist repug party while simultaneously doing our best to reform the Democratic Party and make sure that we’re not crossing our wires and undermining either effort with the other.
It’s not easy but we have no other choice. Thesr are the tasks at hand and we cannot get out of it.
Abeds_BananaStand on
You didn’t like the “here’s Liz Cheney the person the maga voters won’t vote back int office, but maybe if we campaign with her constantly those same maga voters will vote for Harris?”
Lachet on
All I’m gonna say is this: Dems need to embrace universal healthcare. A majority support it; they’ll win both conservative and lefty votes.
snowbirdnerd on
You can’t win over people who will vote for a convicted criminal. You can do things your base wants and get them to show up in greater numbers.
Doppelthedh on
Don’t blame the people committing genocides and stripping your freedoms. Blame the other side for not being God Himself
That strategy has never failed. Their goal isn’t to win elections, it’s to legitimize the status quo with a veneer of democracy and to absorb and smother any social movements that might threaten the dictatorship of Capital.
BestStoogewasLarry on
Dealing with democrats is like herding cats while republicans are herding sheep.
jeffreycoley on
Money still talks
boobs4hands on
The entire Clinton, Biden, and Harris policy platforms courted the left. Biden was the most progressive President since FDR on policy. Ya’ll are out of your mind if you can’t see that.
BigMax on
Progressives haven’t been abandoned by the party. I have no idea why progressives think that.
On EVERY cause progressives champion, Democrats are better, and want to make progress.
Climate change, LGBTQ+ rights, womens rights, reproductive righs, income inequality, more cooperative foreign policy, taxing the wealthy, boosting health care, boosting food aid, funding scientific research, and on and on and on and on…
These are all progressive causes, and these are all causes the democrats actively push for when they have the power to do so.
Progressives who claim otherwise are simply wrong.
baltinerdist on
Oh look, it’s yet another “Dems bad, signed Dems” post. Fun.
Iron_Fist351 on
Senator Mark Kelly recently stated he’s heavily considering running for president himself. I really hope he does. The only alternatives are Kamala and Newsome, and imo neither have the policies this country needs nor the support base needed to win
Harefeet on
You shouldn’t have to run a white heterosexual christian male to win an election in a modern free nation, but it’s foolish to keep pretending we’re in a cultural place that we’re not even if we should be. Run an electable candidate.
rogozh1n on
It cannot be overlooked that this era of Democrats was so bad that they lost twice to trump.
They can either move on to better leadership or they can continue to lose to fascists.
Ritz527 on
The fact that the left regularly avoids organizing with the Democratic party is, ironically, the reason it does not embody their values. If you want the organization to work for you, you need to join it first. Every day party organizers end up political appointees or backed as candidates for future campaigns. They make decisions about internal expectations and the party platform.
Scathing and cynical dismissals or critiques on social media are a far, far second to being a part of the decision making process. You’re not going to get anything done by turning your nose up at the process. **I wish the left would get more involved outside of protests. They’d get a lot more of what they want.**
Start thinking about what you want the Democratic party should look like in the next 10 years and join it with that in mind. Find likeminded people to join you. Just think about having a bunch of Bernies running the party instead of a bunch of Kamala Harris’s. Wouldn’t that be nice?
DarkArmyLieutenant on
The progressive base is screaming for someone like AOC to step in and the progressive boomers are once again trying to get us to swallow Gavin Newsom or Kamala Harris. I voted for Kamala Harris, but Americans were shitty and didn’t vote for her and she cannot win now. We want AOC but we’re going to get Gavin Newsom and we’re going to lose in 2028 again.
Nayko214 on
Pretty hard left and plan on voting Dem regardless for the midterms and next election. The OP is still true. Establishment Dems would rather lose to fascism than move an inch left. They would rather blame the “Bernie bros.” or “The Squad” for their failures than take a look at themselves for running shit campaigns and not doing enough for people.
Enderoth on
Lmao holy shit, look at all the dems cheerfully throwing haymakers at the left in these comments.
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Democrats are about to beat the shit out of Republicans in the midterms.
Also, leftist arent even trying to beat incumbent republicans. Only Democrats are running in swing districts to flip seats, with the exception of graham platner
The only thing far leftists attack are Dems. They also don’t vote Dem if they even vote. There’s no reason to bend the knee to people that villainize you and not willing to work with you
Maybe democrats AND leftists both need to get their shit together. Just saying.
This post brought to you by Steve Bannon!
More proof that Republicans are physically incapable of accepting responsibility for anything at any time. Always the fault of someone else.
Their version of “compromise” is doing it their way or not at all. They cannot govern.
If you plan on sitting out 2028 because the democrat didn’t *inspire* you enough to fight fascism, you can fuck right off. You’re not a part of any political coalition that I’m part of.
You have no idea what I’d be willing to stoop to in order to defeat MAGA fascists
There are far more progressives abandoned by the party than there will ever be of right-wingers who are going to vote for dems.
It’s been a losing strategy from the beginning …but the dems would much rather lose than feel pressure to implement a progressive agenda…
This post kinda demonstrates why the Democrats are like this. Democrats can’t really do much to appease the far left. Anything they do will never be good enough, short of a full socialist revolution.
I mean hell a chunk of the far left refused to vote for Harris over Palestine, because Biden wasn’t coming down hard enough on Israel. This should’ve been a no brainer, obviously Democrats would be better than Trump for Palestine, Democrats want a two state solution while Republicans want an Israel-first solution. But nope! Democrats didn’t 100% disavow and cut ties with a middle-eastern ally, so no vote.
Worked out real well for Palestine under Trump, right?
Meanwhile, Republicans? Democrats kinda have to get Republican votes to do ANYTHING. All of these big, sweeping changes leftists want? Until Democrats control the majority of the House, have ~65 seats in the Senate, and have the presidency, the Democrats NEED at least a couple Republican votes to do anything at all. Because that’s the way our government works, you need 60 votes to achieve anything meaningful in the Senate, or a majority to achieve basic stuff.
So again, this post demonstrates why Democrats don’t waste time trying to appease the far left: Those people will never vote for them anyway, and in part because they don’t understand how the government works.
I mean, the difference is: there are more centrists/independents than there are far left voters, at least, as far as I know? So you have to dedicate a ton of your platform and time courting those in the middle. If you go TOO left, you’ll alienate a huge chunk of the voters that you need.
The problem that I’ve observed with the left/far left is that they refuse to see that progress is slow. If a candidate doesn’t hit EVERY ONE of their criteria, then they won’t vote for that candidate. But that’s not how the system currently works or operates. The Democrat candidate is going to not hit all your check boxes, but they’ll hit MORE checkboxes than the Republican candidate will.
The left will NEVER get what they want if they continue to refuse to vote for the person that’s not a Republican because that person isn’t perfect. Yes, we want universal healthcare, we want gay marriage enshrined, we want people to be treated like people no matter who they are, we don’t want anyone to lose their rights. But if we refuse to vote for a candidate because they don’t hold EVERY SINGLE value that we hold, then we lose the fight. We can’t get universal healthcare if we continue to allow Republicans to get in office.
So fight for the candidates that you want. But, if your candidate doesn’t win the primary and they aren’t on the ballot, then you HAVE to vote for the Democrat that IS on the ballot. Does it suck? Sure. But it’s WAY better than what we have now, and if the left/far left had gotten that through their heads and figured it out in 2024, maybe we wouldn’t be in the mess we are in now. Did Kamala suck in some ways? Sure. But she would’ve been 1000x better than what we currently have.
By not voting for the candidate that is presented to you, because you have this privileged mindset of being able to survive the nightmare cuz you aren’t a marginalized person, you are hurting those who are ACTUALLY marginalized in our society.
And yes, in a way, those who refuse to vote AGAINST fascism by voting for the only other viable candidate in an election (third party is NOT viable currently in our broken system), you are, in a way, voting for fascism.
I’m progressive and have been for over twenty years. My party has routinely disappointed me and is in bad need of reform.
That being said, that’s no excuse to just give the nation to fascists. At least the Democratic Party is reformable. There are several people in it that I mostly agree with. There’s nothing of the sort among the repugs.
If they aren’t stopped in November they will have everything they need to complete their plan of a perpetual one party rule.
We need to do our duty to oppose the fascist repug party while simultaneously doing our best to reform the Democratic Party and make sure that we’re not crossing our wires and undermining either effort with the other.
It’s not easy but we have no other choice. Thesr are the tasks at hand and we cannot get out of it.
You didn’t like the “here’s Liz Cheney the person the maga voters won’t vote back int office, but maybe if we campaign with her constantly those same maga voters will vote for Harris?”
All I’m gonna say is this: Dems need to embrace universal healthcare. A majority support it; they’ll win both conservative and lefty votes.
You can’t win over people who will vote for a convicted criminal. You can do things your base wants and get them to show up in greater numbers.
Don’t blame the people committing genocides and stripping your freedoms. Blame the other side for not being God Himself
I’ll share this every time this comes up:
[Democrats Don’t Need to Reinvent the Wheel to Solve Their Identity Crisis – They Need to Look Back to FDR](https://open.substack.com/pub/robertmcculleycampbell/p/democrats-dont-need-to-reinvent-the?r=64hrt8&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web)
That strategy has never failed. Their goal isn’t to win elections, it’s to legitimize the status quo with a veneer of democracy and to absorb and smother any social movements that might threaten the dictatorship of Capital.
Dealing with democrats is like herding cats while republicans are herding sheep.
Money still talks
The entire Clinton, Biden, and Harris policy platforms courted the left. Biden was the most progressive President since FDR on policy. Ya’ll are out of your mind if you can’t see that.
Progressives haven’t been abandoned by the party. I have no idea why progressives think that.
On EVERY cause progressives champion, Democrats are better, and want to make progress.
Climate change, LGBTQ+ rights, womens rights, reproductive righs, income inequality, more cooperative foreign policy, taxing the wealthy, boosting health care, boosting food aid, funding scientific research, and on and on and on and on…
These are all progressive causes, and these are all causes the democrats actively push for when they have the power to do so.
Progressives who claim otherwise are simply wrong.
Oh look, it’s yet another “Dems bad, signed Dems” post. Fun.
Senator Mark Kelly recently stated he’s heavily considering running for president himself. I really hope he does. The only alternatives are Kamala and Newsome, and imo neither have the policies this country needs nor the support base needed to win
You shouldn’t have to run a white heterosexual christian male to win an election in a modern free nation, but it’s foolish to keep pretending we’re in a cultural place that we’re not even if we should be. Run an electable candidate.
It cannot be overlooked that this era of Democrats was so bad that they lost twice to trump.
They can either move on to better leadership or they can continue to lose to fascists.
The fact that the left regularly avoids organizing with the Democratic party is, ironically, the reason it does not embody their values. If you want the organization to work for you, you need to join it first. Every day party organizers end up political appointees or backed as candidates for future campaigns. They make decisions about internal expectations and the party platform.
Scathing and cynical dismissals or critiques on social media are a far, far second to being a part of the decision making process. You’re not going to get anything done by turning your nose up at the process. **I wish the left would get more involved outside of protests. They’d get a lot more of what they want.**
Start thinking about what you want the Democratic party should look like in the next 10 years and join it with that in mind. Find likeminded people to join you. Just think about having a bunch of Bernies running the party instead of a bunch of Kamala Harris’s. Wouldn’t that be nice?
The progressive base is screaming for someone like AOC to step in and the progressive boomers are once again trying to get us to swallow Gavin Newsom or Kamala Harris. I voted for Kamala Harris, but Americans were shitty and didn’t vote for her and she cannot win now. We want AOC but we’re going to get Gavin Newsom and we’re going to lose in 2028 again.
Pretty hard left and plan on voting Dem regardless for the midterms and next election. The OP is still true. Establishment Dems would rather lose to fascism than move an inch left. They would rather blame the “Bernie bros.” or “The Squad” for their failures than take a look at themselves for running shit campaigns and not doing enough for people.
Lmao holy shit, look at all the dems cheerfully throwing haymakers at the left in these comments.
“VOTE FOR US OR FUCK YOU”
Can’t wait to vote left again.