He hit the ground. He was supposed to keep flying.
-Redstoneboi- on
what the fuck? the guy just died, no eject?
Infinite-Condition41 on
Oh, he briefly rolled the wrong direction before correcting and trying to pull out. Or he didn’t complete the roll properly.
Whoops.
cannabisized on
looks like he didnt rotate fast enough and his momentary pause upside down led to the plane descending more than intended. after finishing the rotation the planes momentum was already going downward and by then the plane was too close to the ground to correct itself.
DraftOk532 on
Nose tilt toward ground ??
secret_alpaca on
During the roll while inverted, pitched “up” too early, dropping altitude, and was too late too low by the time it was upright.
jjmcgil on
Was late on the roll, then hit it too hard and didn’t get enough thrust in the right direction to compensate. That could be anything from pilot error, to mechanical fault, to software blip, to surprise changes in air condition. No way to know without a ton more data than just the video.
CraftierSoup on
Wow Reddit is so full of comedians
Agidy_Yelov on
For a hot second there I thought I was watching videogame footage. It just looked odd seeing the videos synced like that.
Himmroh on
I think the real answer is altitude & gravity
LukeyLeukocyte on
Not sure these are comparable. The 2022 plane continues to bank, which would have only made the 2025 plane hit sooner. I think 2025 plane just didn’t have the altitude for what he wanted to do. Do we know the altitude of the 2022 plane?
Raptor01 on
Well, I’m not pilot, but I’ve flown a lot of RC aircraft. It looks like the one that crashed gave it “up” elevator instead of “down” elevator when he was inverted and didn’t keep the rudder pinned to the left to counteract the yaw created by the elevons. Also looks like he started the whole maneuver too low.
zwifter11 on
Sink rate during the roll.Â
When it was rolled through inverted, the nose noticeably dropped.
There’s an interesting analysis by a military pilot on YouTube who said he knew display pilots who were ordered to change their display routine, as a manoeuvre like this had too much risk / not enough of a safety cushion.
AutonomousOrganism on
So it was supposed to be an aileron roll. But it became a barrel roll, because he didn’t use rudder for some reason (failure?).
Skotzman1969 on
Was on a ground trajectory as he rolled.
PrizePreset on
Looks like he got the altitude wrong at the end there
flightwatcher45 on
Thank you for comparison. Margin of error is so small. Rip
maneshwarS on
The pilot could have probably ejected way early but the aircraft going haywire into the crowd stopped him from do so.
Mangobonbon on
Oof. I’ve watched the video before reading the title. Didn’t see that one coming.
IRespectYouMyFriend on
I just watched somebody die and everyone is joking about it.
Y’all need to get a grip.
weesgegroet on
What was de difference in altitude.??
AverellCZ on
To everyone asking “why didn’t he eject”: Pilot probably didn’t even realize how close to the ground he was. And even if so – he had max 1 second to decide.
Tsyrkis on
He didn’t complete the roll as intended, and when pitching up to do the left turn as seen on the left hand video, was instead diving into the ground. He simply didn’t have enough time to pull out of that, at that point.
He could’ve maybe saved himself if he immediately ejected when he rolled upright, but I don’t think he had enough time to process his options.
Hariwtf10 on
Jesus redditors really think they’re comedians huh. Y’all are corny af bro.
npaulette02 on
What about the little flash towards the front of the jet we see immediately before the plane dives? I assumed something electric or some sort of tiny explosion happened that led to loss of operational capability
AnthMosk on
The rapid loss of speed is what kills. Not speed in and of itself.
Shame.
pornborn on
Between the left and right video, when the left plane rolls inverted, the afterburner ignites but in the right video it does not. Instead, it begins smoking and by the time the plane has righted, the smoke increases dramatically. I wonder if it is not smoke, but vaporized fuel that didn’t ignite. If the pilot didn’t get the sudden thrust boost from the afterburner which might have been needed to increase airspeed, he just stalled and dropped like a rock.
luv2ctheworld on
This helps a lot. That nose dipping seems to be the main difference, specifically at that altitude. It looks like it was enough to lose precious altitude once that happened.
HelpMePlxoxo on
Lots of theorists here, but are there any professionals or pilots here that could give a more educated guess as to what went wrong?
To me it looks like the roll was too slow, leading to him being pointed at the ground for too long and losing too much altitude. But I assume there are a number of malfunctions that could have caused that as opposed to just user error?
Someone more educated than me needs to chime in lol
WilfredTomlinson on
Was the pilot ok?
EdmundTheInsulter on
Yes Reddit will know why he crashed like they had every wrong theory about the Indian passenger jet crash – ground effect indeed.
frekinghell on
There is a slight wrong turn which becomes an over correction and then it all becomes to slow at that height.
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What exactly went wrong though?
He hit the ground. He was supposed to keep flying.
what the fuck? the guy just died, no eject?
Oh, he briefly rolled the wrong direction before correcting and trying to pull out. Or he didn’t complete the roll properly.
Whoops.
looks like he didnt rotate fast enough and his momentary pause upside down led to the plane descending more than intended. after finishing the rotation the planes momentum was already going downward and by then the plane was too close to the ground to correct itself.
Nose tilt toward ground ??
During the roll while inverted, pitched “up” too early, dropping altitude, and was too late too low by the time it was upright.
Was late on the roll, then hit it too hard and didn’t get enough thrust in the right direction to compensate. That could be anything from pilot error, to mechanical fault, to software blip, to surprise changes in air condition. No way to know without a ton more data than just the video.
Wow Reddit is so full of comedians
For a hot second there I thought I was watching videogame footage. It just looked odd seeing the videos synced like that.
I think the real answer is altitude & gravity
Not sure these are comparable. The 2022 plane continues to bank, which would have only made the 2025 plane hit sooner. I think 2025 plane just didn’t have the altitude for what he wanted to do. Do we know the altitude of the 2022 plane?
Well, I’m not pilot, but I’ve flown a lot of RC aircraft. It looks like the one that crashed gave it “up” elevator instead of “down” elevator when he was inverted and didn’t keep the rudder pinned to the left to counteract the yaw created by the elevons. Also looks like he started the whole maneuver too low.
Sink rate during the roll.Â
When it was rolled through inverted, the nose noticeably dropped.
There’s an interesting analysis by a military pilot on YouTube who said he knew display pilots who were ordered to change their display routine, as a manoeuvre like this had too much risk / not enough of a safety cushion.
So it was supposed to be an aileron roll. But it became a barrel roll, because he didn’t use rudder for some reason (failure?).
Was on a ground trajectory as he rolled.
Looks like he got the altitude wrong at the end there
Thank you for comparison. Margin of error is so small. Rip
The pilot could have probably ejected way early but the aircraft going haywire into the crowd stopped him from do so.
Oof. I’ve watched the video before reading the title. Didn’t see that one coming.
I just watched somebody die and everyone is joking about it.
Y’all need to get a grip.
What was de difference in altitude.??
To everyone asking “why didn’t he eject”: Pilot probably didn’t even realize how close to the ground he was. And even if so – he had max 1 second to decide.
He didn’t complete the roll as intended, and when pitching up to do the left turn as seen on the left hand video, was instead diving into the ground. He simply didn’t have enough time to pull out of that, at that point.
He could’ve maybe saved himself if he immediately ejected when he rolled upright, but I don’t think he had enough time to process his options.
Jesus redditors really think they’re comedians huh. Y’all are corny af bro.
What about the little flash towards the front of the jet we see immediately before the plane dives? I assumed something electric or some sort of tiny explosion happened that led to loss of operational capability
The rapid loss of speed is what kills. Not speed in and of itself.
Shame.
Between the left and right video, when the left plane rolls inverted, the afterburner ignites but in the right video it does not. Instead, it begins smoking and by the time the plane has righted, the smoke increases dramatically. I wonder if it is not smoke, but vaporized fuel that didn’t ignite. If the pilot didn’t get the sudden thrust boost from the afterburner which might have been needed to increase airspeed, he just stalled and dropped like a rock.
This helps a lot. That nose dipping seems to be the main difference, specifically at that altitude. It looks like it was enough to lose precious altitude once that happened.
Lots of theorists here, but are there any professionals or pilots here that could give a more educated guess as to what went wrong?
To me it looks like the roll was too slow, leading to him being pointed at the ground for too long and losing too much altitude. But I assume there are a number of malfunctions that could have caused that as opposed to just user error?
Someone more educated than me needs to chime in lol
Was the pilot ok?
Yes Reddit will know why he crashed like they had every wrong theory about the Indian passenger jet crash – ground effect indeed.
There is a slight wrong turn which becomes an over correction and then it all becomes to slow at that height.
Rip
The pilot died