Oh god, how can companies survive without AI? Truly unprecedented times 🤔
Actually-Yo-Momma on
Bro I’m literally saving as much money as possible for the inevitable crash so i can just chill at my house with my wife and never leave
huuaaang on
If AI fails we can just turn the data centers into apartments with really good internet access.
may_be_indecisive on
The economy crashes in both scenarios. Capitalism needs customers. Can’t be a customer if you don’t have a job.
NorCalJason75 on
So, it’s crash. 💥
Calligaster on
The sooner this bubble pops, the smaller the impact will be. Let it pop
Feisty-Discussion-22 on
If AI succeeds then we have long term unemployment, If AI fails the it’s a short term problem.
agoraphobic_mattur on
Truth be told people are not seeing the third option. The character walks straight and both happens
EncabulatorTurbo on
AI is just the new internet, it can’t do 80% ofw hats being claimed yet, or even soon, but its being invested in as if its there
Its going to crash like Cisco did
Such_Description9827 on
The sooner it fails the better. Bubble gonna burst some day anyway
crimxxx on
Not sure the economy falls. I think share holders see a big drop in stock prices and ai companies closing down or laying people off, but it’s pretty isolated to people with stocks who also care about immediate value and companies who can’t keep the light on cause they cant make money on there products.
You may even seen a bunch of companies start hiring more junior employees when they figure out ai isn’t ganna fully replace there employees.
With all that said realistically this is ganna fall in the middle where ai is ganna be a productivity tool rather than mass employee replacement in it’s current form, with a stock market crash at some point.
fixermark on
It’s been a long time coming. The problem at the root is capitalism. “X succeeds, massive job losses” applie*s* to *most* automation, and if we don’t fundamentally divorce the right to live from the worth of the human measured as their ability to create wealth for some property-owner, we won’t survive the transition as a society (a people with nothing to do all day has *plenty* of time to foment a rebellion, unless they have a reason not to). After AI it’s going to be transportation automation. Then anthropomorphic machines that can substitute for employees in warehouses and the “last-mile” general-purpose manufacturing tasks. Then, quite possibly, significant chunks of c-suite (executive decisionmaking is just making the right call based on information available, and that is, in theory, a highly-computable problem). Company owners never get replaced because, ultimately, the law says all of this is theirs.
People burn a *preposterious* amount of time on discovery, synthesizing documentation, memos, analysis, etc… All of which AI has the potential to speed up and/or simplify. We have the potential to reap huge benefits in time-saving for an awful lot of people… Unless we demand of those people they *compete* with AI by clinging to outmoded Industrial Revolution models instead of being able to enrich their lives with it.
readwritetalk on
AI has added so few jobs by itself that if it fails, the *stock market* will crash but not the economy. But the economy is already in trouble for many reasons.
htp-di-nsw on
There is also a middle path where we eat the rich, who are the only ones interested in pushing AI and placed us at this crossroads.
lasers42 on
AI will be sold to us by China. We won’t make it here because too many people object to using electricity. Meanwhile, China is already covering itself with solar panels, preparing to cash in.
bearsheperd on
Both lead to economy crashing. Because if there’s massive job losses, how will people have any money to spend to support the economy?
well_ladida_ on
If AI fails, i can finally buy 8gb ram that i want
nagyee on
On both sides it’s missing: average people will pay the price. Whether it’s a bailout money or job loss
mrknickerbocker on
Since it’s obvious that ‘the economy’ mostly means rich people’s bank accounts now, i’m ok with ‘the economy’ crashing
dirty_w_boy on
R/depressing
mkp666 on
If AI fails, there are going to be some screaming deals on RAM and GPUs
Randyeshow on
I don’t understand why people are worried about losing their jobs to a technology that has absolutely no motivation to get anything right and absolutely no safeguards to prevent it from getting everything wrong.
Nairurian on
My guess is that it’ll be like the Internet bubble ~25 years ago; the bubble will pop and some companies that were riding the hype train will fail, but AI will not go away entirely, just become integrated in how we do business.
stuartullman on
the problem is that people miserably suck at predicting future changes and how those changes reverberate onto everything. so all the answers are resorting back to what we are used to. if ai succeeds, the results won’t be just “job losses.”
randyohnehandy on
Where’s the funny
yepthisismyusername on
The future looks like a blight.
MoobooMagoo on
It’s looking like the 30’s are going to be a repeat.
orbitaldragon on
The AI succeeds path has a utopian option as well… Just have to convince billionaires to want it too.
Imagine your life not revolving around a daily job. All of the planets necessities are automated. Humans are free to just live and explore. UBI maintains needed resources.
drunk___monkey on
*In a world that constantly changing, the only real risk is not taking none at all.*
wasted-degrees on
Economy is gonna crash either way. Many of the jobs that aren’t going to get taken by AI are somehow reliant on revenue from customers who are losing their jobs to AI.
Fewer people making money = fewer people spending money = fewer people making money.
Didact67 on
Easy choice. Let it all burn.
MarginalOmnivore on
By “the economy crashes,” they mean rich people get a little bit less rich. The jobs they got rid of are still gone, though.
0nlyhalfjewish on
I don’t think the economy crashes if AI fails. Remember, the stock market is NOT the economy.
Ctrl_Sh1ft_Esc on
If AI fails, to say economy will crash is to ignore the past until now… We will resume work as it was.
Peace once again.
confused-koala on
Hilarious
reddorickt on
Looking at these comments there are a lot of people here who are going to be left behind.
The_Lucky_7 on
If you replace all the workers, then who is going to buy all the shit? The economy crashes either way.
If AI is as disruptive and powerful as the tech bros would have us believe, and cost as much public resources (water, power, land) as it currently does, then it should have always been a utility leased to corporations at a premium to pay for the Universal Basic Income that is required to keep the country alive.
Ophidiophobic on
There’s always going to be jobs, they’re just going to look different. It’s gonna suck for the next decade or two, but this isn’t the first time a revolutionary technology has been introduced.
I think gen alpha and the gen after them will be fine – we’ll have most of this figured out by the time they enter the job market.
Gen Z… Sorry, y’all are cooked.
Radiant_Bookkeeper84 on
Lest we forget the environmental catastrophe looming over us with the data centers
TheRexRider on
Economy crashes. Millions suffer. The people who caused the crash wipe their tears with 100 dollar bills and continue to party.
matrixkid29 on
You are free. You have a choice as long is its forward in either of those directions
Xicsukin on
My guess is it will crash and come back with better regulations on what can be used with AI and how much it can be used during the production process.
It can be a great tool used to help speed up the process and create imaginative ideas. Currently it’s like the wild west and everybody is trying to throw it around without any rhyme or reason.
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Bleak
AI really said “heads I win, tails you lose
Oh god, how can companies survive without AI? Truly unprecedented times 🤔
Bro I’m literally saving as much money as possible for the inevitable crash so i can just chill at my house with my wife and never leave
If AI fails we can just turn the data centers into apartments with really good internet access.
The economy crashes in both scenarios. Capitalism needs customers. Can’t be a customer if you don’t have a job.
So, it’s crash. 💥
The sooner this bubble pops, the smaller the impact will be. Let it pop
If AI succeeds then we have long term unemployment, If AI fails the it’s a short term problem.
Truth be told people are not seeing the third option. The character walks straight and both happens
AI is just the new internet, it can’t do 80% ofw hats being claimed yet, or even soon, but its being invested in as if its there
Its going to crash like Cisco did
The sooner it fails the better. Bubble gonna burst some day anyway
Not sure the economy falls. I think share holders see a big drop in stock prices and ai companies closing down or laying people off, but it’s pretty isolated to people with stocks who also care about immediate value and companies who can’t keep the light on cause they cant make money on there products.
You may even seen a bunch of companies start hiring more junior employees when they figure out ai isn’t ganna fully replace there employees.
With all that said realistically this is ganna fall in the middle where ai is ganna be a productivity tool rather than mass employee replacement in it’s current form, with a stock market crash at some point.
It’s been a long time coming. The problem at the root is capitalism. “X succeeds, massive job losses” applie*s* to *most* automation, and if we don’t fundamentally divorce the right to live from the worth of the human measured as their ability to create wealth for some property-owner, we won’t survive the transition as a society (a people with nothing to do all day has *plenty* of time to foment a rebellion, unless they have a reason not to). After AI it’s going to be transportation automation. Then anthropomorphic machines that can substitute for employees in warehouses and the “last-mile” general-purpose manufacturing tasks. Then, quite possibly, significant chunks of c-suite (executive decisionmaking is just making the right call based on information available, and that is, in theory, a highly-computable problem). Company owners never get replaced because, ultimately, the law says all of this is theirs.
People burn a *preposterious* amount of time on discovery, synthesizing documentation, memos, analysis, etc… All of which AI has the potential to speed up and/or simplify. We have the potential to reap huge benefits in time-saving for an awful lot of people… Unless we demand of those people they *compete* with AI by clinging to outmoded Industrial Revolution models instead of being able to enrich their lives with it.
AI has added so few jobs by itself that if it fails, the *stock market* will crash but not the economy. But the economy is already in trouble for many reasons.
There is also a middle path where we eat the rich, who are the only ones interested in pushing AI and placed us at this crossroads.
AI will be sold to us by China. We won’t make it here because too many people object to using electricity. Meanwhile, China is already covering itself with solar panels, preparing to cash in.
Both lead to economy crashing. Because if there’s massive job losses, how will people have any money to spend to support the economy?
If AI fails, i can finally buy 8gb ram that i want
On both sides it’s missing: average people will pay the price. Whether it’s a bailout money or job loss
Since it’s obvious that ‘the economy’ mostly means rich people’s bank accounts now, i’m ok with ‘the economy’ crashing
R/depressing
If AI fails, there are going to be some screaming deals on RAM and GPUs
I don’t understand why people are worried about losing their jobs to a technology that has absolutely no motivation to get anything right and absolutely no safeguards to prevent it from getting everything wrong.
My guess is that it’ll be like the Internet bubble ~25 years ago; the bubble will pop and some companies that were riding the hype train will fail, but AI will not go away entirely, just become integrated in how we do business.
the problem is that people miserably suck at predicting future changes and how those changes reverberate onto everything. so all the answers are resorting back to what we are used to. if ai succeeds, the results won’t be just “job losses.”
Where’s the funny
The future looks like a blight.
It’s looking like the 30’s are going to be a repeat.
The AI succeeds path has a utopian option as well… Just have to convince billionaires to want it too.
Imagine your life not revolving around a daily job. All of the planets necessities are automated. Humans are free to just live and explore. UBI maintains needed resources.
*In a world that constantly changing, the only real risk is not taking none at all.*
Economy is gonna crash either way. Many of the jobs that aren’t going to get taken by AI are somehow reliant on revenue from customers who are losing their jobs to AI.
Fewer people making money = fewer people spending money = fewer people making money.
Easy choice. Let it all burn.
By “the economy crashes,” they mean rich people get a little bit less rich. The jobs they got rid of are still gone, though.
I don’t think the economy crashes if AI fails. Remember, the stock market is NOT the economy.
If AI fails, to say economy will crash is to ignore the past until now… We will resume work as it was.
Peace once again.
Hilarious
Looking at these comments there are a lot of people here who are going to be left behind.
If you replace all the workers, then who is going to buy all the shit? The economy crashes either way.
If AI is as disruptive and powerful as the tech bros would have us believe, and cost as much public resources (water, power, land) as it currently does, then it should have always been a utility leased to corporations at a premium to pay for the Universal Basic Income that is required to keep the country alive.
There’s always going to be jobs, they’re just going to look different. It’s gonna suck for the next decade or two, but this isn’t the first time a revolutionary technology has been introduced.
I think gen alpha and the gen after them will be fine – we’ll have most of this figured out by the time they enter the job market.
Gen Z… Sorry, y’all are cooked.
Lest we forget the environmental catastrophe looming over us with the data centers
Economy crashes. Millions suffer. The people who caused the crash wipe their tears with 100 dollar bills and continue to party.
You are free. You have a choice as long is its forward in either of those directions
My guess is it will crash and come back with better regulations on what can be used with AI and how much it can be used during the production process.
It can be a great tool used to help speed up the process and create imaginative ideas. Currently it’s like the wild west and everybody is trying to throw it around without any rhyme or reason.
Rigth, right, right.