Radioactive decay rates do not care about your personal theology or literal interpretations of ancient texts
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Don’t forget your hazmats fellow Redditors if any christians show up…
-mrhyde_ on
Other “proofs”:
Fossils
Pottery
Earth
SourDoughBo on
Reminds me of that Bill Nye vs a Creationist debate. Bill Nye was talking about trees and fossils, the creationist just talked about other smart people that believe it too
ElrondCupboard on
Every geological feature on Earth was caused by the flood /s
Rude-Jellyfish7574 on
That uranium was promised to school bus some years ago
JesseRoxII on
And then the “Last Thursday-ism” theory rams into that train.
ActualKeanuReeves on
I went to a private religious school where we unironically watched Kent Hovind and Ray Comfort videos.
blizzardplus on
Do you really think religious people are going to let science get in the way of their feelings? Lol
theHrayX on
*Jarvis Sort by controversial*
Mezzoski on
“Earth is 6000 years old” 😂🤣😮😂🤣😮😂🤣😮😂🤣
Meat-Mattress on
Creationists be like
breakConcentration on
I’m just still appalled by what on earth (and beyond) the water I’m drinking has been passing through.
Professional-Fee-957 on
Lead, not uranium.
otirk on
You really think they care about that? If scientific evidence could convince them of the truth, they wouldn’t be religious
NotBillderz on
Never ask someone to carbon date a living creature.
Key-Specific-4368 on
😆
Saif_Horny_And_Mad on
We literally have man-made structures older than 6000 years
izzythemini on
Folk who believe that the planet is 6,000 years old would also believe that uranium, fossils and landformations were put there by the devil
ResurrectedMortician on
*mesopotamia has entered the chat*
dennisleonardo on
Idk what exactly this is leaning at, but the vast majority of today’s christians, including priests, are not strict creationists and do believe that the theory of evolution is correct.
Ok-Mouse5446 on
For anyone wondering; Fossils and life identification use a combination of this (Uranium-Zircon) dating, and volcanic ash is used between layers to get an estimate.
I took an evolutionary anthropology class in college and this is closely how it works with some varying degrees. C14/13 dating is absurdly and in most cases wrong (in these date ranges) unless it is extremely recent (now to 30k+- years ago).
This is most commonly why when we date a very ancient species we don’t know the exact date and will give something like (13.5-14.3MYA) Based on volcanic activity and the uranium decay in the two volcanic layers.
How we determine the starting uranium, we know how often Uranium decays into Lead and what the ratio is, and since nature never changes that ratio, it can be represented by an equation.
Also, the story of how we came to discover the Earth was this old is really interesting, look up Clair Patterson for more on lead poisoning and how he campaigned to remove it from gasoline.
VoidGhidorah900 on
I love watching Clint from the Clint’s reptiles YouTube channel disprove creationist arguments
wierdnitro7 on
So I’ll defend this slightly, cause it’s fun! Young earth creationists believe that God made the Earth appearing to be old. Some people don’t recognize this, but they ultimately do believe that. Some creationists believe God made all things appearing old, some believe only certain things are old. But they must believe this, or completely reject hundreds of years of science (science that was philosophically founded on Christian ideas about the unchanging character of God, no less).
The reason I can confidently make that argument is because we can see the light of other stars. So either God made the world with light in motion, or the Earth is old, and old earth creationism holds more water. Either way, it doesn’t matter that much to me, I think there’s logical, internally consistent ways to believe either thing. But that’s part of the reason why young earth creationists are a bit wacky sometimes, since they don’t usually recognize that is how they are thinking.
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Scientists used to hide their estimations out of fear. *this species went extinct, that’s why the fossil is here* and people would respond with how could God allow that, kill life forms?
Considering that had happened more than once, they just hid the estimation or made it sound lesser in numbers. Didn’t Darwin also kept his research hidden for 20 years. I’m reading his biography so lets seee what reasons are explored. Standard reason that I’m aware of is due to the fallout
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Js a reminder Christian≠creationist
wolfgang784 on
Creationists are convinced that radiocarbon dating and whatever the other methods for telling how old things are is all the devils work and that its fake readings with fake numbers and fake science made up by scientists who are sent by Satan to lead good, God-fearing Christians astray and that its a test of faith to keep denying the demonic science.
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Last Thursdayism for the win – boom you right back!
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Radioactive decay rates do not care about your personal theology or literal interpretations of ancient texts
Don’t forget your hazmats fellow Redditors if any christians show up…
Other “proofs”:
Fossils
Pottery
Earth
Reminds me of that Bill Nye vs a Creationist debate. Bill Nye was talking about trees and fossils, the creationist just talked about other smart people that believe it too
Every geological feature on Earth was caused by the flood /s
That uranium was promised to school bus some years ago
And then the “Last Thursday-ism” theory rams into that train.
I went to a private religious school where we unironically watched Kent Hovind and Ray Comfort videos.
Do you really think religious people are going to let science get in the way of their feelings? Lol
*Jarvis Sort by controversial*
“Earth is 6000 years old” 😂🤣😮😂🤣😮😂🤣😮😂🤣
Creationists be like
I’m just still appalled by what on earth (and beyond) the water I’m drinking has been passing through.
Lead, not uranium.
You really think they care about that? If scientific evidence could convince them of the truth, they wouldn’t be religious
Never ask someone to carbon date a living creature.
😆
We literally have man-made structures older than 6000 years
Folk who believe that the planet is 6,000 years old would also believe that uranium, fossils and landformations were put there by the devil
*mesopotamia has entered the chat*
Idk what exactly this is leaning at, but the vast majority of today’s christians, including priests, are not strict creationists and do believe that the theory of evolution is correct.
For anyone wondering; Fossils and life identification use a combination of this (Uranium-Zircon) dating, and volcanic ash is used between layers to get an estimate.
I took an evolutionary anthropology class in college and this is closely how it works with some varying degrees. C14/13 dating is absurdly and in most cases wrong (in these date ranges) unless it is extremely recent (now to 30k+- years ago).
This is most commonly why when we date a very ancient species we don’t know the exact date and will give something like (13.5-14.3MYA) Based on volcanic activity and the uranium decay in the two volcanic layers.
How we determine the starting uranium, we know how often Uranium decays into Lead and what the ratio is, and since nature never changes that ratio, it can be represented by an equation.
Also, the story of how we came to discover the Earth was this old is really interesting, look up Clair Patterson for more on lead poisoning and how he campaigned to remove it from gasoline.
I love watching Clint from the Clint’s reptiles YouTube channel disprove creationist arguments
So I’ll defend this slightly, cause it’s fun! Young earth creationists believe that God made the Earth appearing to be old. Some people don’t recognize this, but they ultimately do believe that. Some creationists believe God made all things appearing old, some believe only certain things are old. But they must believe this, or completely reject hundreds of years of science (science that was philosophically founded on Christian ideas about the unchanging character of God, no less).
The reason I can confidently make that argument is because we can see the light of other stars. So either God made the world with light in motion, or the Earth is old, and old earth creationism holds more water. Either way, it doesn’t matter that much to me, I think there’s logical, internally consistent ways to believe either thing. But that’s part of the reason why young earth creationists are a bit wacky sometimes, since they don’t usually recognize that is how they are thinking.
Scientists used to hide their estimations out of fear. *this species went extinct, that’s why the fossil is here* and people would respond with how could God allow that, kill life forms?
Considering that had happened more than once, they just hid the estimation or made it sound lesser in numbers. Didn’t Darwin also kept his research hidden for 20 years. I’m reading his biography so lets seee what reasons are explored. Standard reason that I’m aware of is due to the fallout
Js a reminder Christian≠creationist
Creationists are convinced that radiocarbon dating and whatever the other methods for telling how old things are is all the devils work and that its fake readings with fake numbers and fake science made up by scientists who are sent by Satan to lead good, God-fearing Christians astray and that its a test of faith to keep denying the demonic science.
Last Thursdayism for the win – boom you right back!