Japan government in samurai era was extremely isolationist and don’t want simple people to own arms, not mentioning firearms. Thanks to this, any samurai will literally murder anyone to arm himself with gun and whole honor code went flying through the window the second any Dutch merchant was willing to sell one
More context will be appreciated, why the hell you are willing to create meme but don’t explain what is it about
Angel_OfSolitude on
Even before guns they weren’t primarily sword fighters. Like most civilizations they realized being further from the enemy was better. Sword play was important, but battles were mostly fought with spear and bow.
Sampleswift on
Also even before firearms, Samurai often used bows and arrows as much as katanas. So the “ranged Samurai build” was actually a thing even then.
John_Oakman on
That’s why in Age of Empires 3 you can arm them with an anti-building handheld mortar.
ShiraLillith on
“historians”: samurais died off because they refused to adapt to new warfare tactics
Actual historians: Samurais died off because they threw a bitchfit when they started losing power to the merchant cast and then they lost even more power
OnionsoftheBelt on
I really want a historically accurate Sengoku film. Crazy amount of guns with all that Samurai drip. I remember reading there were more guns at the final battle of this era than there were in all of Europe at the time.
Beat_Saber_Music on
Samurai were originally horse archers as well. Bow is the ultimate Samurai weapon really
naturerosa on
A true warrior doesn’t nerf themselves in a war! I’m not an expert at all, but guns seem more efficient than the blade.
Towairatu on
TeppÅ goes boom boom
Tall_Pressure7042 on
Samurai with rifles: ready-set-fire-boom!
bokita_ on
The samurai were horse archers first and foremost.
A7V- on
Lords of medieval Japan, as soon as they saw the Europeans arrive with firearms: FIVE HUNDRED ARQUEBUSES.
PyrpleForever on
Why does everyone, without fail, always only think in terms of large scale, army vs army battles when talking about Samurai and samurai weapons. Of course they used primarily spears and guns.
When people talk about Katanas, they’re talking about *duels*. No one says Samurai fought with Katanas in gigantic battles. They mean fighting 1 on 1 against other samurai: a situation when indeed, swords were used quite often compared to other weapons.
This is like if people said “the revolver wasn’t really used in the American west because battles were fought with rifles.” Like, that’s not the same conversation.
Successful_Baby_5245 on
Samurai in fiction: Melee fighter. Samurai in real life: * asian English bow Man and mongol calvary *
Pm7I3 on
Remember kids: a gun is a dishonourable and soulless weapon for the weak and shameful. Unless you can get a decent supply in which case they’re great and every bit as honourable as what you had two seconds ago.
Emotional_Newt_2227 on
Oda Nobunaga literally won Nagashino by lining up 3000 tanegashima in rotating volleys. bro industrialized warfare in 1575 while Europe was still figuring things out
JohnPoet27 on
Goddamn nanban, bringing their teppo to glorious nihon
Barricade386 on
Horse so dead the stick is hitting bones
cut_rate_revolution on
The sword, like it was in Europe during the same time period, was primarily a status symbol. Samurai fought mostly with bows and spears. And guns once they became available.
Massive_Bike_1441 on
Didnt they use bow and spear like 99% of the time using only the sword for daily protection/chopping peasents?
Kagemaru- on
Oda Nobunaga to Takeda Katsuyori:
*”Washi about to end this man’s whole career”*
**Three line formation goes brrr**
OperatorInMask on
Samurai were mostly archers before firearms, their armour was designed to be comfortable to use during shooting on horses. Katanas as much as Europe knights swords served rather status function while for actual combat were used different, easy to maintain and use options.
Cosmicpanda2 on
Having to remind weebs gently about Oda Nobunaga
GreenNukE on
Samurai were professional warriors and administrators with a strong motive to win. Defeat usually resulted in death. They were very open to diverse military technology and tactics. The first samurai fought as armored archers, with swords as their secondary weapons. While an individual samurai might excel with a particular weapon, they were expected to be proficient with bows, swords, polearms, spears, horseback riding, unarmed combat, and, when they became available, firearms.
They are often depicted as swordsmen because those were the weapons that they carried at all times when going about their lives and duties. The daisho combination of a long katana and a shorter wakizashi was restricted to the bushi social class to distinguish them from lesser classes.
Ok-Substance-6034 on
I mean, even their contemporaries, medieval knights, trained with bows. Far better to shoot a dude before he has a chance to stab or shoot you lol
Just like in a book I’m writing that’s religious fantasy set after a huge world altering event, even the “knights” with magical powers are pulling out a rifle before they resort to a sword lmao
AwareOfAlpacas on
Tanegashima is a place (an island) that had its name co-opted as shorthand for the weapon, since that’s where the gun was first introduced.Â
The matchlock rifle / araquebus was a *hinawaju*.Â
Blackpowderkun on
And there’s probably sum that uses his retainers as his weapons.
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This is good meme that I don’t need context for
But still, it’s a meme without context:
Japan government in samurai era was extremely isolationist and don’t want simple people to own arms, not mentioning firearms. Thanks to this, any samurai will literally murder anyone to arm himself with gun and whole honor code went flying through the window the second any Dutch merchant was willing to sell one
More context will be appreciated, why the hell you are willing to create meme but don’t explain what is it about
Even before guns they weren’t primarily sword fighters. Like most civilizations they realized being further from the enemy was better. Sword play was important, but battles were mostly fought with spear and bow.
Also even before firearms, Samurai often used bows and arrows as much as katanas. So the “ranged Samurai build” was actually a thing even then.
That’s why in Age of Empires 3 you can arm them with an anti-building handheld mortar.
“historians”: samurais died off because they refused to adapt to new warfare tactics
Actual historians: Samurais died off because they threw a bitchfit when they started losing power to the merchant cast and then they lost even more power
I really want a historically accurate Sengoku film. Crazy amount of guns with all that Samurai drip. I remember reading there were more guns at the final battle of this era than there were in all of Europe at the time.
Samurai were originally horse archers as well. Bow is the ultimate Samurai weapon really
A true warrior doesn’t nerf themselves in a war! I’m not an expert at all, but guns seem more efficient than the blade.
TeppÅ goes boom boom
Samurai with rifles: ready-set-fire-boom!
The samurai were horse archers first and foremost.
Lords of medieval Japan, as soon as they saw the Europeans arrive with firearms: FIVE HUNDRED ARQUEBUSES.
Why does everyone, without fail, always only think in terms of large scale, army vs army battles when talking about Samurai and samurai weapons. Of course they used primarily spears and guns.
When people talk about Katanas, they’re talking about *duels*. No one says Samurai fought with Katanas in gigantic battles. They mean fighting 1 on 1 against other samurai: a situation when indeed, swords were used quite often compared to other weapons.
This is like if people said “the revolver wasn’t really used in the American west because battles were fought with rifles.” Like, that’s not the same conversation.
Samurai in fiction: Melee fighter. Samurai in real life: * asian English bow Man and mongol calvary *
Remember kids: a gun is a dishonourable and soulless weapon for the weak and shameful. Unless you can get a decent supply in which case they’re great and every bit as honourable as what you had two seconds ago.
Oda Nobunaga literally won Nagashino by lining up 3000 tanegashima in rotating volleys. bro industrialized warfare in 1575 while Europe was still figuring things out
Goddamn nanban, bringing their teppo to glorious nihon
Horse so dead the stick is hitting bones
The sword, like it was in Europe during the same time period, was primarily a status symbol. Samurai fought mostly with bows and spears. And guns once they became available.
Didnt they use bow and spear like 99% of the time using only the sword for daily protection/chopping peasents?
Oda Nobunaga to Takeda Katsuyori:
*”Washi about to end this man’s whole career”*
**Three line formation goes brrr**
Samurai were mostly archers before firearms, their armour was designed to be comfortable to use during shooting on horses. Katanas as much as Europe knights swords served rather status function while for actual combat were used different, easy to maintain and use options.
Having to remind weebs gently about Oda Nobunaga
Samurai were professional warriors and administrators with a strong motive to win. Defeat usually resulted in death. They were very open to diverse military technology and tactics. The first samurai fought as armored archers, with swords as their secondary weapons. While an individual samurai might excel with a particular weapon, they were expected to be proficient with bows, swords, polearms, spears, horseback riding, unarmed combat, and, when they became available, firearms.
They are often depicted as swordsmen because those were the weapons that they carried at all times when going about their lives and duties. The daisho combination of a long katana and a shorter wakizashi was restricted to the bushi social class to distinguish them from lesser classes.
I mean, even their contemporaries, medieval knights, trained with bows. Far better to shoot a dude before he has a chance to stab or shoot you lol
Just like in a book I’m writing that’s religious fantasy set after a huge world altering event, even the “knights” with magical powers are pulling out a rifle before they resort to a sword lmao
Tanegashima is a place (an island) that had its name co-opted as shorthand for the weapon, since that’s where the gun was first introduced.Â
The matchlock rifle / araquebus was a *hinawaju*.Â
And there’s probably sum that uses his retainers as his weapons.
*Shoots peasant for some reason