The math only works if you ignore rent, groceries, and every other bill somehow.
Powerful_Swimmer_531 on
People need to start holding their damn governments accountable
Brain rot and terror news is meant to distract you from the fact life is being made purposefully unaffordable so huge numbers of people eventually die of disease and malnutrition just so billionaire elites get to pollute the Earth for an extra 50 years
LucidUncreativity on
No but fr. I was working minimum wage as a line cook in HS. I remember working the line and overhearing my coworkers talking about ordering sushi. I was genuinely shocked they could even afford rent, let alone takeout. They were only making like a buck or two more than me an hour.
Imma_Tired_Dad on
Oh but it is lol 😂
eldfen on
Almost as if their situation is completely different to yours.
Plastic-Cookie8164 on
Coworkers with 3 kids: pays rent, buys groceries, survives the month.
Me after buying one hoodie and 2 energy drinks: ‘yeah… this economy is cooked
princemark on
Someone’s daddy has money probably.
Shalnai on
I sometimes think about this with my coworkers. I make pretty good money, so can take care of myself with some margin. But then I have a coworker who also supports a wife and 4 kids. I’m curious how the math maths for him.
FormerStuff on
I mean kids also alter your federal and state withholdings so… yeah it can be the same but it’s probably tight. Plus they may have a spouse that works.
suspicious_cabbage on
For me it felt this way while me and my wife were paying off our student loans, but also I saw plenty of people buy things they couldn’t afford (like really expensive cars). Sometimes I would come across really bad spenders too, some of which made more money than me and managed to come up short on their cell phone bill every month.
They may also have government assistance, and more importantly *you* might not know you qualify for government assistance and should check. If the government is letting you make unlivable wages, it’s not “taking a handout”. it’s making up for the difference, and it’s how those programs are meant to work.
Poor_ElonMusk on
It’s called sacrifice , and , thats the time you understand why is it so difficult for the majority of parents.
Pascraked47 on
Depends on your expenses.
Mispeled_Divel on
My coworker has 6 kids, I really hope her husband has a great paying job, because the only bill I’m responsible for is my community college tuition and other similar expenses and I am barely able to keep up.
IA_99 on
I know that feeling.
I once helped someone new to get worked in into her position and it was obvious that she lacked some vital work experience, which didn’t bother me at the time.
However we randomly talked about salaries and she got 1/3 more, which shocked me.
I don’t blame her for it, but I asked my boss about it and he told me she gets more for being a parent, which he wants to support.
I understand this on one hand, but on the other one it makes it harder for me to become a parent and rewards her for making irresponsible decisions early in life (getting children before you have a stable job).
NotChedco on
They would be getting a bit extra for child tax and other “benefits” for having kids. Not really enough to actually offset the cost, but if money is spent wisely, it helps a lot. Also, good chance the parents are going without just to give more to their kids. Just because you CAN survive, doesn’t mean the system isn’t broken.
A_ScalyManfish on
I made $704 on my last paycheck. Rent is 800.
Briffy03 on
For me its not much the money, but the free time, im the closest to work and yet i feel like i havent even time to go to the groceries and in the same evening my coworkers have moved a whole house to the opposite side of the country
Erikatessen87 on
It’s entirely possible they’re not the same paychecks. The so-called “fatherhood bonus” is a real phenomenon in a society with a marked bias toward parents over people without children.
I can’t count how many times in past jobs I was denied previously-approved time off because “they need to be with their family over X holiday” or was passed over for a raise that went to a coworker who did a worse job because “you don’t have anyone depending on you.”
bazilbt on
For a lot of people they are doing well partially because they bought a house at the right time. My parents refinanced to a 15 year loan to pay off their house quickly, which they did a few years back. But my dad at one point whined to me he was paying 1400 a month for the mortgage, insurance, and taxes. I’m paying $2100 to rent.
AYRAN-GANG on
No it aint unfortunate
Kahnvoy on
The magic is called debt.
winelover08816 on
When I had my first kid, the company gave me a 30 percent increase in salary but told me to never speak about it. I remain anonymous on the internet to this day to protect my safety.
SuspiciousYard2484 on
I have 2 degrees and a steady salary job and I eat eggs and cheese every night
MrCarey on
Haha I’m that coworker with 3 kids. I even low census all the time. Paid everything off with Covid nurse money, wife doesn’t work more than 8 days a year now.
Everyone else blew their money during covid and I refinanced with a wonderful interest rate, saved a ton, and paid off any debt that wasn’t a mortgage.
TheCharalampos on
Trust me, when you’ve got kids you find a damn way. Sure I’m likely burning years off my life expectancy but what can you do.
StayTheFool on
They’re usually the people you’ll see the most of at a job. Some of these younger folks will call out, oversleep, take too long on breaks, slack off, argue.
I can’t afford to miss work or not be good enough to get full time hours. I have downhills that are too steep to fall on and I know if I am at work constantly then everything can maintain for just a little bit. It always seems like there’s a possibility for something to improve around the corner but there’s also a mountain of consequences behind you if you stop.
You’re literally stuck moving forward even if that means you never get anywhere.
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The math only works if you ignore rent, groceries, and every other bill somehow.
People need to start holding their damn governments accountable
Brain rot and terror news is meant to distract you from the fact life is being made purposefully unaffordable so huge numbers of people eventually die of disease and malnutrition just so billionaire elites get to pollute the Earth for an extra 50 years
No but fr. I was working minimum wage as a line cook in HS. I remember working the line and overhearing my coworkers talking about ordering sushi. I was genuinely shocked they could even afford rent, let alone takeout. They were only making like a buck or two more than me an hour.
Oh but it is lol 😂
Almost as if their situation is completely different to yours.
Coworkers with 3 kids: pays rent, buys groceries, survives the month.
Me after buying one hoodie and 2 energy drinks: ‘yeah… this economy is cooked
Someone’s daddy has money probably.
I sometimes think about this with my coworkers. I make pretty good money, so can take care of myself with some margin. But then I have a coworker who also supports a wife and 4 kids. I’m curious how the math maths for him.
I mean kids also alter your federal and state withholdings so… yeah it can be the same but it’s probably tight. Plus they may have a spouse that works.
For me it felt this way while me and my wife were paying off our student loans, but also I saw plenty of people buy things they couldn’t afford (like really expensive cars). Sometimes I would come across really bad spenders too, some of which made more money than me and managed to come up short on their cell phone bill every month.
They may also have government assistance, and more importantly *you* might not know you qualify for government assistance and should check. If the government is letting you make unlivable wages, it’s not “taking a handout”. it’s making up for the difference, and it’s how those programs are meant to work.
It’s called sacrifice , and , thats the time you understand why is it so difficult for the majority of parents.
Depends on your expenses.
My coworker has 6 kids, I really hope her husband has a great paying job, because the only bill I’m responsible for is my community college tuition and other similar expenses and I am barely able to keep up.
I know that feeling.
I once helped someone new to get worked in into her position and it was obvious that she lacked some vital work experience, which didn’t bother me at the time.
However we randomly talked about salaries and she got 1/3 more, which shocked me.
I don’t blame her for it, but I asked my boss about it and he told me she gets more for being a parent, which he wants to support.
I understand this on one hand, but on the other one it makes it harder for me to become a parent and rewards her for making irresponsible decisions early in life (getting children before you have a stable job).
They would be getting a bit extra for child tax and other “benefits” for having kids. Not really enough to actually offset the cost, but if money is spent wisely, it helps a lot. Also, good chance the parents are going without just to give more to their kids. Just because you CAN survive, doesn’t mean the system isn’t broken.
I made $704 on my last paycheck. Rent is 800.
For me its not much the money, but the free time, im the closest to work and yet i feel like i havent even time to go to the groceries and in the same evening my coworkers have moved a whole house to the opposite side of the country
It’s entirely possible they’re not the same paychecks. The so-called “fatherhood bonus” is a real phenomenon in a society with a marked bias toward parents over people without children.
I can’t count how many times in past jobs I was denied previously-approved time off because “they need to be with their family over X holiday” or was passed over for a raise that went to a coworker who did a worse job because “you don’t have anyone depending on you.”
For a lot of people they are doing well partially because they bought a house at the right time. My parents refinanced to a 15 year loan to pay off their house quickly, which they did a few years back. But my dad at one point whined to me he was paying 1400 a month for the mortgage, insurance, and taxes. I’m paying $2100 to rent.
No it aint unfortunate
The magic is called debt.
When I had my first kid, the company gave me a 30 percent increase in salary but told me to never speak about it. I remain anonymous on the internet to this day to protect my safety.
I have 2 degrees and a steady salary job and I eat eggs and cheese every night
Haha I’m that coworker with 3 kids. I even low census all the time. Paid everything off with Covid nurse money, wife doesn’t work more than 8 days a year now.
Everyone else blew their money during covid and I refinanced with a wonderful interest rate, saved a ton, and paid off any debt that wasn’t a mortgage.
Trust me, when you’ve got kids you find a damn way. Sure I’m likely burning years off my life expectancy but what can you do.
They’re usually the people you’ll see the most of at a job. Some of these younger folks will call out, oversleep, take too long on breaks, slack off, argue.
I can’t afford to miss work or not be good enough to get full time hours. I have downhills that are too steep to fall on and I know if I am at work constantly then everything can maintain for just a little bit. It always seems like there’s a possibility for something to improve around the corner but there’s also a mountain of consequences behind you if you stop.
You’re literally stuck moving forward even if that means you never get anywhere.