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    1. thepoylanthropist on

      **Heroin**: Generally, an amount of approximately 30 milligrams is often cited as a potentially lethal dose for an individual without a high opioid tolerance.

      **Fentanyl**: This is significantly more potent; as little as 2 milligrams (roughly the size of a few grains of salt) can be fatal to an average adult.

      **Carfentanil**: This substance is approximately 100 times more potent than fentanyl. A lethal dose for a human can be as small as 20 micrograms ,which is nearly invisible to the naked eye.

    2. My question is, is it possible for an average Joe to get their hands on carfentanil for it to ever be a concern of something being laced with it? Obviously we know fentanyl is everywhere now and a lot of things are laced with it so people should always test their stuff, but that tiny amount of carfentanil I imagine can easily go unnoticed/undetected. So is it a concern of that making it to the streets at all? Or is it just used in the medical field?

    3. Soggy_Amoeba9334 on

      How big are the tubes? They could be 15 feet tall. Needs a banana in the frame.

    4. TheOmegaKid on

      What i dont understand is why drug cartels would risk murdering their customer base, its just not good business sense. (in reference to cutting)

    5. During the 2002 [Moscow Theater hostage crisis](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_theater_hostage_crisis), Russian special forces pumped an aerosolized mixture of carfentanil and remifentanil into the theater. All 40 Chechen hostage takers were killed, and 125 hostages died from the gas, largely because responders weren’t told what agent was used and arrived without enough naloxone to save them.

      That stuff is no joke.

    6. CuriousAndGolden on

      Carfentanil’s only documented use is surgical anesthesia for very large animals. One study recommended a 12-15 milligram dosage for an elephant.

    7. No_Maize_1136 on

      Sure glad I’m 2 years sober of off coke. This world is fucked. We all know why. Shaking my fucking head

    8. I genuinely don’t understand how people use fentanyl on a regular basis or even more than once when that amount is enough to kill them?

    9. I got to about a ‘gram’ of fentanyl a day before I died. Was smoking it so my dumbass thought my tolerance was stronger than it was. Anyways, just wanted to say stay tf away from this shit, ain’t worth it.

    10. I knew a guy who would take all of those, eat an entire rotisserie chicken and sleep his balls out

    11. That’s the amount of the pure substance. You’ll never encounter pure fentanyl or carfentanyl in the field – it will _always_ be diluted in some kind of carrier. Heck, you’re unlikely to find _pure_ heroin in the wild.

      With all of these, the greater risk to the user is not knowing if it’s been more/less diluted than usual, not knowing if it’s been cut with something toxic, and not knowing if it’s been added to some other substance (like, is there fentanyl in your heroin).

    12. Potential_Figure4061 on

      it depends. maybe a infant but def not a everyday fent user. 

    13. smizzlebdemented on

      The crazy thing is, a person with a tolerance can literally do 100x that on a daily basis. You people have no idea how hardcore drug addiction is in 2026. I have an old brother that I no longer talk to that takes 400mg of methadone every single morning…

    14. Majesty1337 on

      how are people able to do so many drugs mixed with fentanyl without dying as fast

    15. Historical_Cable9719 on

      Pretty sure your local trap house doesn’t have the necessary equipment and training to handle these properly.

    16. As a recovering opiate addict, I’m even surprised that carfent made it on the streets. It’s meant for a very very large animal when they need to be taken down but not killed.

    17. Zestyclose-Contact-7 on

      These numbers are off. The problem with these studies is it’s counted by a fundamentally flawed system. The problem is they take a pure product, show you the ld50 roughly which means 50% chance of death at that dose roughly. And then they don’t tell you people are receiving is only roughly 2ish percent pure. On the high side (speaking of fentanyl) They also take the average no tolerance person and the amount it would take with lab grade pure as possible chemicals. Then after it’s cut to literally having 6-10 maybe 15 milligrams in a gram of fentanyl. But then they count everything they find as 100% pure when they say “enough doses were found to kill fifteen bajillion people! Which is a lie they know they are spouting. I’m not defending fentanyl or drug smuggling none of that. It just saddens me that the first move to pop into most politicians minds is to lie to us. Because they think we’re stupid. Like they do that to boost their status.

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