Days of the week are Nordic. Today we worship Máni, the counter of the years.
Visible-Air-2359 on
I mean considering modern historians believe Jesus was born between 6 BCE and 4 BCE using BC means that you are saying Jesus was born 4-6 years before Christ which obviously doesn’t make sense.
someoverallvalue on
This change 100% brings up the most reactionary side of me possible- just seems like a pointless attempted wipe of how central Christianity has been to history. While also still being based on Christianity…
GreatGigInTheSky855 on
I just think it’s funny that some people are so hellbent on using BCE/CE that they try to *correct others* who say BC/AD. It gives the same energy as “Latinx”
MrMr_sir_sir on
I think the “Common era” should be the agricultural revolution, or when writing systems were started.
We should either be in 12,000 CE or 5,000 CE.
Number-Thirty-Four on
BC and AD are a very minor concession to the architects of a very good and accurate calendar. It’s impressive as all hell and should be respected.
Also, I will call a Crusade if not an Exterminatus if you bastards try to change it.
DoctorMedieval on
Because Jupiter, Mars, and Venus are all well known Christian deities?
abfgern_ on
I’m more annoyed that CE&BCE sound really simmilar and are much more of a tongue twister to say. Surely a better choice could have been made.
I heard somewhere a suggestion for “Backwards Counting” and “Ascending Dates” to just stop the fuss
Background_Relief_36 on
The planets are named after the Roman gods which are named after the Greek gods and the days of the week are Nordic. This is just wrong.
McGillis_is_a_Char on
Right then, let’s switch to the revolutionary calendar from France. That seems more rational anyway. /s
Wild_Hog_70 on
I mostly just don’t like that “common” is a meaningless place holder. You could keep BCE/CE and have the C stand for “Christian”. It would be descriptive without having to imply endorsement of Christianity like AD does.
12_15_17_5 on
The way past cultural eras have left imprints on our language is actually really cool. Obvious examples like the Norse days of the week, and the thousands more less obvious ones that can be studied by linguists. It’s almost like philological archaeology, “digging through” language to learn about the past.
People who want to go through and erase that due to the latest ideological fad are both cringe and boring.
Ok_Volume3211 on
I’ve noticed quite a few historians, in written work or media appearances still using BC/AD.
Lord_Parbr on
You forgot the big one. What’s the cut off point between CE and BCE? It’s still the supposed birth of Christ
EmiliusReturns on
And the years are the same anyway.
ammar96 on
I think what makes it even funnier is even Islam called BC and AD respectively as Before Masihi and Masihi years. Guess what Masihi is? Yes, Messiah. Literally the same context as BC and AD. Even we are confused why on Earth people are trying to change the naming into BCE and CE.
acciowaves on
While we’re at it, how come BC is ‘Before Christ’ in English but AD is ‘Anno Domini’ in Latin?
TheHistoryMaster2520 on
Should note that many Jewish people use BCE and CE because they don’t want to refer to Jesus of Nazareth as Christ, because it contradicts their religion
Valirys-Reinhald on
I’m fine with getting rid of AD, but “BC” literally just means “Before Christ.” Like, it literally just describes the event around which the calendar shifted, and it legitimately is one of, if not the, most important events in western history.
Not only that, but the Monk’s out in a lot of work for that calendar.
Belgrifex on
Obviously we should realign the calendar to before and after Lego Star Wars II hit shelves
Thiaski on
Yes, the Common Era, the Era that is Common, the Era that became Common after…. *check notes*…. the birth of Common.
champsgetup on
I remember Louie CK’s question. Something to the effect of “Do you think the world is 2017 years old?”
Independent_Ad_6348 on
I Like Anno Domini not because of Christianity or anything I just think the words sound cool lmao.
Also after death is vague enough that it Doesn’t HAVE to be Jesus it could be after death of like some turtle idk lol.
amortized-poultry on
Neil DeGrasse Tyson honestly has a really good defense for using BC and AD as opposed to BCE and CE.
If I remember correctly, it boils down to: It’s unironically a very astronomically accurate and impressive system, and the monks who created it have the right to name the eras.
Jack_Church on
This isn’t a problem for us Vietnamese. All of our months are numbered from 1 to 12 while the days of the week are numbered from 2-7 plus a Chủ Nhật (Christians called it Chúa Nhật literally The Day of the Lord).
We also use BCE (Trước Công Nguyên) and CE (Sau Công Nguyên) because we borrowed the terms from China and because BC/AD are mouthful in Vietnamese (Trước khi Chúa giáng sinh and Sau khi Chúa giáng sinh ) (Before the Lord was born and After the Lord was born).
No_Extension4005 on
I’m against changing to CE and BCE because switching the names but keeping the same starting point and end point as BC and AD because it would be a logistical pain in the ass to change it just feels like stupid busywork.
robotnique on
I suggest we simply submit to our Chinese fellows and call it year 4724
We honor the Yellow Emperor
Rex_Nemorensis_ on
What’s really stupid about this so the fact they CE and BCE still use the birth of Christ as its basis.
DTux5249 on
They invented the damn calendar, they get to name it.
wasnew4s on
Before Census. After Documentation. There fixed.
Cyberguardian173 on
The only benefit I can think of is that “common era” sounds rad as hell. BCE is too long and sounds too similar; why didn’t they make it something like “previous era?”
I guess being in English is another advantage. Who today knows what “anno domini” means.
Big_Pirate_3036 on
It doesn’t even matter jesus wasnt even born on 0 AD
adumbCoder on
they made the flipping calendar they can name it whatever they want
AdmirableTeachings on
I genuinely support the IFC and the Holocene Era year count for this exact reason.
ABZB on
I only have an opinion because of how much I loathe the Roman empire.
I’ll keep my preexisting lunisolar, leap months and all.
Roma delenda est.
choppytehbear1337 on
The Gregorian Calendar is just a slight modification of the Julian Calendar. Made by Julius Ceasar.
ionevenobro on
What started the common era
clairejv on
I maintain that setting the “Common Era” to the birth of Christ is more Christocentric than Anno Domini.
EtherealPheonix on
Can’t we just all agree that it’s 1778552433 (at the time of writing)
HorrorYoung on
Why not use BP/AP we would even have shorter numbers for years and we would get to celebrate the first century!
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Days of the week are Nordic. Today we worship Máni, the counter of the years.
I mean considering modern historians believe Jesus was born between 6 BCE and 4 BCE using BC means that you are saying Jesus was born 4-6 years before Christ which obviously doesn’t make sense.
This change 100% brings up the most reactionary side of me possible- just seems like a pointless attempted wipe of how central Christianity has been to history. While also still being based on Christianity…
I just think it’s funny that some people are so hellbent on using BCE/CE that they try to *correct others* who say BC/AD. It gives the same energy as “Latinx”
I think the “Common era” should be the agricultural revolution, or when writing systems were started.
We should either be in 12,000 CE or 5,000 CE.
BC and AD are a very minor concession to the architects of a very good and accurate calendar. It’s impressive as all hell and should be respected.
Also, I will call a Crusade if not an Exterminatus if you bastards try to change it.
Because Jupiter, Mars, and Venus are all well known Christian deities?
I’m more annoyed that CE&BCE sound really simmilar and are much more of a tongue twister to say. Surely a better choice could have been made.
I heard somewhere a suggestion for “Backwards Counting” and “Ascending Dates” to just stop the fuss
The planets are named after the Roman gods which are named after the Greek gods and the days of the week are Nordic. This is just wrong.
Right then, let’s switch to the revolutionary calendar from France. That seems more rational anyway. /s
I mostly just don’t like that “common” is a meaningless place holder. You could keep BCE/CE and have the C stand for “Christian”. It would be descriptive without having to imply endorsement of Christianity like AD does.
The way past cultural eras have left imprints on our language is actually really cool. Obvious examples like the Norse days of the week, and the thousands more less obvious ones that can be studied by linguists. It’s almost like philological archaeology, “digging through” language to learn about the past.
People who want to go through and erase that due to the latest ideological fad are both cringe and boring.
I’ve noticed quite a few historians, in written work or media appearances still using BC/AD.
You forgot the big one. What’s the cut off point between CE and BCE? It’s still the supposed birth of Christ
And the years are the same anyway.
I think what makes it even funnier is even Islam called BC and AD respectively as Before Masihi and Masihi years. Guess what Masihi is? Yes, Messiah. Literally the same context as BC and AD. Even we are confused why on Earth people are trying to change the naming into BCE and CE.
While we’re at it, how come BC is ‘Before Christ’ in English but AD is ‘Anno Domini’ in Latin?
Should note that many Jewish people use BCE and CE because they don’t want to refer to Jesus of Nazareth as Christ, because it contradicts their religion
I’m fine with getting rid of AD, but “BC” literally just means “Before Christ.” Like, it literally just describes the event around which the calendar shifted, and it legitimately is one of, if not the, most important events in western history.
Not only that, but the Monk’s out in a lot of work for that calendar.
Obviously we should realign the calendar to before and after Lego Star Wars II hit shelves
Yes, the Common Era, the Era that is Common, the Era that became Common after…. *check notes*…. the birth of Common.
I remember Louie CK’s question. Something to the effect of “Do you think the world is 2017 years old?”
I Like Anno Domini not because of Christianity or anything I just think the words sound cool lmao.
Also after death is vague enough that it Doesn’t HAVE to be Jesus it could be after death of like some turtle idk lol.
Neil DeGrasse Tyson honestly has a really good defense for using BC and AD as opposed to BCE and CE.
If I remember correctly, it boils down to: It’s unironically a very astronomically accurate and impressive system, and the monks who created it have the right to name the eras.
This isn’t a problem for us Vietnamese. All of our months are numbered from 1 to 12 while the days of the week are numbered from 2-7 plus a Chủ Nhật (Christians called it Chúa Nhật literally The Day of the Lord).
We also use BCE (Trước Công Nguyên) and CE (Sau Công Nguyên) because we borrowed the terms from China and because BC/AD are mouthful in Vietnamese (Trước khi Chúa giáng sinh and Sau khi Chúa giáng sinh ) (Before the Lord was born and After the Lord was born).
I’m against changing to CE and BCE because switching the names but keeping the same starting point and end point as BC and AD because it would be a logistical pain in the ass to change it just feels like stupid busywork.
I suggest we simply submit to our Chinese fellows and call it year 4724
We honor the Yellow Emperor
What’s really stupid about this so the fact they CE and BCE still use the birth of Christ as its basis.
They invented the damn calendar, they get to name it.
Before Census. After Documentation. There fixed.
The only benefit I can think of is that “common era” sounds rad as hell. BCE is too long and sounds too similar; why didn’t they make it something like “previous era?”
I guess being in English is another advantage. Who today knows what “anno domini” means.
It doesn’t even matter jesus wasnt even born on 0 AD
they made the flipping calendar they can name it whatever they want
I genuinely support the IFC and the Holocene Era year count for this exact reason.
I only have an opinion because of how much I loathe the Roman empire.
I’ll keep my preexisting lunisolar, leap months and all.
Roma delenda est.
The Gregorian Calendar is just a slight modification of the Julian Calendar. Made by Julius Ceasar.
What started the common era
I maintain that setting the “Common Era” to the birth of Christ is more Christocentric than Anno Domini.
Can’t we just all agree that it’s 1778552433 (at the time of writing)
Why not use BP/AP we would even have shorter numbers for years and we would get to celebrate the first century!