Should also be noted that the Americans repelled every British Invasion attempt, gained parts of Spanish Florida significantly weakening a major British ally, completely obliterated Tecumsehโs confederacy and seized over 22 million acres of land, burned down Toronto and managed to hold it far longer than the British were able to hold DC, and the British eventually made peace to focus on Napoleonโs threat.
No hate intended at all but it is funny that both British and American people pretend like they won the war and it wasnโt a stalemate side quest to the Napoleonic wars that ended with status quo antebellum.
Solid-Move-1411 on
Do Brits even care about war of 1812?
I always find Americans talking about it mostly
EmperorSadrax on
lol this is Cope
I honestly feel like this was replicated in the Mexican American war by the US Marines going to Mexico City via Veracruz.
VenitianBastard on
sure, but it’s nonetheless just dope-as-hell aura farming
Financial-Savings-91 on
Moral victory!!!! ๐ซก
mrhoofy on
I mean, there were two goals of the expedition. Attack Baltimore and burn Washington’s government buildings as revenge for the burning of Port Dover and York. It was a lesson, basically ‘if you keep burning our settlements, we will start burning yours. We have a huge navy and you have a lot of vulnerable coastal settlements. Also notice we didn’t burn any private property, unlike what you did in York and Port Dover.’
The war didn’t last long enough to see if that message was received or not.
Artistic-Tip2405 on
We did it and it was painted white to cover up the burn marks. The British and Canada will forever be responsible for naming The Whitehouse!
Sporty_Nerd_64 on
The British also had a small problem that they were dealing with on the European continent in 1812. Without that the war in North America could have had a very different outcome if they had been able and willing to put their full military might behind it.
BurnTheBoats21 on
Do Americans make the argument that it was a strategic victory? When the Americans invaded upper Canada, they occupied some land for a few days and completely burned down Ontarios first (and new at the time) house of commons and senate with all the books and documents inside and looted much to the rest of the city.
It was largely undefended, but they still reduced parliament to ashes before eventually withdrawing. From the Canadian perspective, the Brits burning down the Whitehouse was not seen as some major strategic turning point. It was largely symbolic and revenge after an avoidable and pointless war that killed over 5k soldiers (many of which were locals from toronto), 10k indigenous civilians where many upper Canadians genuinely thought they could be annexed.
KenseiHimura on
Even so, are they available to do it again? There’s a tacky, golden cancer that’s taken it over.
Safe-Storm6464 on
I donโt think Brits or Canadians ever really claim it as some major victory, more so just a haha suck it moment. Like you burned our important building down now we burnt yours down as well.
WalkerTR-17 on
And this right here is why we are owed Canada and should fight a just and moral war of retribution to level buckingham palace /s
FarmerTwink on
Thatโs not the point. The point is the capitol was lost and destroyed. Itโs a humiliation
West_to_East on
US cope post for losing the war.
Talonsminty on
I mean the problem is that the war was fundamentally dishonest and very very and I mean extremely dumb.
A lot of people dead and a lot of homes destroyed for pretty much nothing at all. Both sides lost.
Kampoof on
True.
But we still did it tho.
Yall should remember it’s flammable…
Talonis_WolfAcolyte on
As a Canadian, I agree that you’re correct but also that we humbly request America not make us come over and burn the White House again.
The lead paint makes it no good for roasting marshmallows ๐
CAJMusic on
Sorry I thought the French burned the White House.
Sweaty_Report7864 on
Doesnโt make it any less amusing! Plus, there are several other times we (Canadians/UK) made a fool of the US, like that time Sir Issac Brock tricked a larger US force holding a fort into surrendering when heavily outnumbered. That being the then fort and later city of Detroit. Or the facts that we (Canada/UK) are the only ones to ever actually capture Washington DC, and the only ones to put a sitting president under fire during a battle, (one which the US lost, and that then lead to the capture of Washington).
DistanceToEmpty on
I say this as a Canadian; Canadians really need to shut up about burning the Whitehouse.
No troops from what would become Canada were involved. It was British troops redeployed from Europe who conducted the Chesapeake Campaign after a brief stop in Halifax.
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Should also be noted that the Americans repelled every British Invasion attempt, gained parts of Spanish Florida significantly weakening a major British ally, completely obliterated Tecumsehโs confederacy and seized over 22 million acres of land, burned down Toronto and managed to hold it far longer than the British were able to hold DC, and the British eventually made peace to focus on Napoleonโs threat.
No hate intended at all but it is funny that both British and American people pretend like they won the war and it wasnโt a stalemate side quest to the Napoleonic wars that ended with status quo antebellum.
Do Brits even care about war of 1812?
I always find Americans talking about it mostly
lol this is Cope
I honestly feel like this was replicated in the Mexican American war by the US Marines going to Mexico City via Veracruz.
sure, but it’s nonetheless just dope-as-hell aura farming
Moral victory!!!! ๐ซก
I mean, there were two goals of the expedition. Attack Baltimore and burn Washington’s government buildings as revenge for the burning of Port Dover and York. It was a lesson, basically ‘if you keep burning our settlements, we will start burning yours. We have a huge navy and you have a lot of vulnerable coastal settlements. Also notice we didn’t burn any private property, unlike what you did in York and Port Dover.’
The war didn’t last long enough to see if that message was received or not.
We did it and it was painted white to cover up the burn marks. The British and Canada will forever be responsible for naming The Whitehouse!
The British also had a small problem that they were dealing with on the European continent in 1812. Without that the war in North America could have had a very different outcome if they had been able and willing to put their full military might behind it.
Do Americans make the argument that it was a strategic victory? When the Americans invaded upper Canada, they occupied some land for a few days and completely burned down Ontarios first (and new at the time) house of commons and senate with all the books and documents inside and looted much to the rest of the city.
It was largely undefended, but they still reduced parliament to ashes before eventually withdrawing. From the Canadian perspective, the Brits burning down the Whitehouse was not seen as some major strategic turning point. It was largely symbolic and revenge after an avoidable and pointless war that killed over 5k soldiers (many of which were locals from toronto), 10k indigenous civilians where many upper Canadians genuinely thought they could be annexed.
Even so, are they available to do it again? There’s a tacky, golden cancer that’s taken it over.
I donโt think Brits or Canadians ever really claim it as some major victory, more so just a haha suck it moment. Like you burned our important building down now we burnt yours down as well.
And this right here is why we are owed Canada and should fight a just and moral war of retribution to level buckingham palace /s
Thatโs not the point. The point is the capitol was lost and destroyed. Itโs a humiliation
US cope post for losing the war.
I mean the problem is that the war was fundamentally dishonest and very very and I mean extremely dumb.
A lot of people dead and a lot of homes destroyed for pretty much nothing at all. Both sides lost.
True.
But we still did it tho.
Yall should remember it’s flammable…
As a Canadian, I agree that you’re correct but also that we humbly request America not make us come over and burn the White House again.
The lead paint makes it no good for roasting marshmallows ๐
Sorry I thought the French burned the White House.
Doesnโt make it any less amusing! Plus, there are several other times we (Canadians/UK) made a fool of the US, like that time Sir Issac Brock tricked a larger US force holding a fort into surrendering when heavily outnumbered. That being the then fort and later city of Detroit. Or the facts that we (Canada/UK) are the only ones to ever actually capture Washington DC, and the only ones to put a sitting president under fire during a battle, (one which the US lost, and that then lead to the capture of Washington).
I say this as a Canadian; Canadians really need to shut up about burning the Whitehouse.
No troops from what would become Canada were involved. It was British troops redeployed from Europe who conducted the Chesapeake Campaign after a brief stop in Halifax.