People really be out here acting like this was the only notable event of his 12 year presidency (or that every person on earth doesn’t already know about it)

You can argue about his economic policies being good/bad. (He stole all the gold, he helped create the modern capitalist system, I’ve heard them all before).

You can argue about his “chumminess” (practicality) with Stalin. (Defeating Hitler was tantamount, he sold out Eastern Europe, I’ve heard all these too).

Kinda hard to argue about the good in internment camps.

That’s a very dishonest whataboutism that is also tainted with the most naive manicheism. FDR is one of my favourite presidents yet I’m able to say that some stuff is just messed up.

I think that getting mad because people try to fight against the myth of the perfect president while reminding everybody that the man himself ordered to put East Asian citizenships in Concentration Camps is disgusting. Before anyone wants to say that they do so with Italian and German people too, that’s wrong because he only ordered to imprison migrants not citizens. He even declared himself that they could not never assimilate, which are something very vile.

While he was not perfect he was one of the best presidents that America had and the greatest class traitor of your history (in the best sense of the word), but that doesn’t exempt him of his not-that-cool side. Mocking people that try to point at the parts of history that make you feel unconfortable with your simplist manichean perspective is bad. Laughing at people that put their effort on memory on history about injustices is vile.

Our past is not a damn Western with good people that are very good and bad people that are very bad, our past is the history of humans and we are our own contradiction.

You also invented a strawman because no one will put that above the New Deal in terms of relevancy.

I think that there are some people that should stop trying to whitewash their history and make It a tale about how the good people defeated the villains, that’s chosing to have tunnel vision because of wanting to be confortable with a past that shouldn’t satisfy you, but make you understand your present.

Classic goat fucker problem.

Literally I’ve never seen anyone say this is the only thing he did. If someone does want to talk about it then good. What the hell? Why all the sensitivity towards these historical figures.

Putting Americans in racial concentration camps is a massive and true part of our history. It can also be illuminating to impressionable minds learning about America if they have never been taught the real history of how America has treated its non white people.

It’s funny because you are mad at a straw man but it is pretty much impossible to talk about America putting it’s citizens in concentration camps without talking about other aspects of the war so like what are we even complaining about?

Every person does NOT know about it. Every American SHOULD know it. We have an issue in American culture with hero worship, especially of presidents.

To become the leader of a country, you need to be a fucked up person. Further, to stay the leader of a country, you need to make compromises with people who are probably even more evil than you are. We need to stay as critical as possible of every historical figure. They’re dead, they have no reputation to protect.

Triumphs are important, but understanding our leaders’ mistakes is what stops us from being nationalists, which is infinitely more important.

Of course it isn’t, he also participated in Mexican Repatriation which qualifies as an ethnic cleansing

Granted, saying “did you know FDR did the New Deal?” is a bit of a gimme. Even if my grandpa didn’t like it back in the day.

True. There were a bunch of other FDR events that were just as bad.

It’s also very frustrating hearing people act like the internment camps were as bad as the concentration camps, or treating them like they’re in any way similar. Other than being used to detain people, they were entirely different