Well I’d say that making concentration camps to put Japanese migrants and Japanese-American citizens there was not his shiniest moment
Edit: I wrote originally concentration camps, but as u/cheapcheap1 pointed it wouldn’t be accurate at all. Another correction thanks to u/weathergage input. However, besides his original input and the reasonable explaination he provided to use that term, after a lot of comments and specially u/JyubiKurama one, I restored the original comment refering tho those as concentration camps.
Concentration camps don’t have to mean the same as extermination camps, while the later are a variety of the former.
PandaBearButtPlug on
I’d say stealing every Americans gold and making it illegal to have bullion coins in your possession was -100,000,000 aura
Catalytic_Crazy_ on
I personally find him terrifying.
IceCreamMeatballs on
I hope America gets another POTUS like FDR real soon…
Thick-Ad-4168 on
i don’t think similar sentiments will be shared by Koreans or the American Japanese
ginogon on
I don’t know about that. I mean in a cocktail party, a lot of people would look down on him when he makes conversation.
DrHolmes52 on
Opinions are going to be mixed on FDR. He did have aura though.
ChudUndercock on
The dude stole all the gold in America and interned american citizens. Dude was a piece of shit.
Executive Order 6102, look it up if you don’t believe me about the gold thing.
Edit: I almost forgot. He tried to overthrow the government to secure his power. Remember when he tried to pack the supreme court with 6 new judges at once? He also spat in George Washington’s face by having a 3rd term.
Imagine being a president so dangerous and hated that congress enacts a constitutional amendment against your actions. He is the reason why we have only 2 terms per president. Until him every president stuck to 2 terms in honor of George Washington.
>President Roosevelt and his administration drafted several plans to reshape European politics after the war. Roosevelt proposed to Anthony Eden the creation of a new state called Wallonia, which involved removing Alsace-Lorraine and parts of Hauts-de-France from France to give them to Belgium. This plan was ultimately abandoned.
But I guess De Gaulle was “arrogant” as the Americans keep repeating on this sub for daring to oppose this god-awful plan
Blade_Shot24 on
Posts like these remind me of how they looked more up from a specific bias.
FuckingBethesda on
Mogged
FDRinaMechSuit on
Based and true
New-Number-7810 on
He really was the right person in the right place at the right time. He was instrumental in the US victory in WWII, as well as in ending the Great Depression.
Praetor72 on
lol ah yes FDR. The tyrant in a wheelchair. Such aura. Superior to everyone, but more superior than the Japanese US citizens, the Supreme Court, and the constitution
ComprehensiveDig4560 on
The arguably biggest and most important opponent of Hitler and who was instrumental for his defeat was a man Hitler would view as an inferior being. There is something very beautiful about that.
Realistic-Order-3467 on
A threat to democracy.
baguetteispain on
As a french, I have a lot of mixed opinions about this guy. I’m at least glad he couldn’t make France into the client state it was planned
SexWith_TedCruz on
The power and unimaginable wealth of the US was built on the new deal and after ww2.
Politicians have spent the last 80 years trying to destroy everything FDR created for short term personal profit
thequietthingsthat on
This is why reactionaries (even in this thread) love to point to the WWII camps as if they invalidate every great thing he accomplished.
The oligarchs still live in fear of another FDR. Greatest president the U.S. ever had.
crimbusrimbus on
The Japanese Internment camp thing pisses me off so much because he would have went down as a near perfect president.
PositiveMaster8236 on
Spousal abuse and Japanese-American concentration camps say what?!
TheLastGenXer on
Meeting your wife at a family reunion is a little questionable
Cpkeyes on
The dude had three separate woman become romantically involved with him; two after he was disable; and one was so enamored she died when she saw him with some duchess
FearTheBurger on
Most authoritarian US president, interned US citizens in concentration camps, ordered the destruction of masses of foodstuffs and livestock at a time when millions were forced to stand in food lines, and if forcing the sale of private property at rates significantly below market isn’t theft, I don’t know what is.
Glazing FDR is vastly overrated.
Legtagytron on
Looksmaxxing by the greatest of all time who died from a heart condition while beating Adolf to death with his own hand.
Flakes4058 on
Didn’t he also force everyone to sell their gold for way under the value and then resell it back to the public at an even higher price?
different_option101 on
LOL. Are you like pro prison camps and all sorts of racial discrimination?
tenpl_sten on
He put Japanese people in internment camps.
One-Incident3208 on
I genuinely enjoyed this conversation
MetroidvaniaListsGuy on
his supreme court nominations were amazing
Ambaryerno on
80 years later and he STILL scares the shit out of Conservatives, so he was clearly doing something right.
Karporata on
I really like him, the three things I don’t like is his strong opposition to De Gaulle (and his plan for post WW2 France), the Japanese concentration camp, and what he gave free to the soviet at the end (but for that last I can understand it more)
FlyHog421 on
FDR’s Museum changed how I viewed him. I highly recommend it. If you do his museum and mansion it takes literally all day to get through.
Hyde Park, NY is little out of the way but accessible via driving or a train ride from NYC and you can make a decent trip out of it. Along with FDR’s museum/mansion the Vanderbilts had a giant mansion down the road, Samuel Morse had a cool mansion there, and Eleanor’s place Val-Kill is there as well. For dinner you go to the culinary institute of America which has a killer restaurant.
You can also take a train down to Newburgh which is an absolute dump of a town, but contains Washington’s Headquarters Historic Site which was where the Continental Army was encamped for the last 16 months of the Revolutionary War along with the National Purple Heart Hall of Honor. West Point is just south of there as well.
There’s also some cool towns north of Hyde Park too like Staatsburg and Rhinebeck which have a lot of cool historic sites.
The point here is go to FDR’s museum and spend some time in the Hudson River Valley area. You will not be disappointed.
Hillbilly_Historian on
Not if you’re from the Tennessee Valley.
judasmachine on
Well I’m beginning to think he’s a tad better than the fella we got now.
allitalli on
is this a meme about his well documented racism?
DiabeticRhino97 on
Great at war, not great at fixing a depression.
WanderingWorkhorse on
The more you learn about his competition, the angrier you get. I just learned about Herbert Hoover, MacArthur, and Patton using the military to gas, shoot, and bayonett US veterans in a march on DC.
jaredwallace91 on
Japanese Internment doesn’t help his long term legacy much
ExternalJumpy6264 on
Concentration Camps and a huge bloated wasteful federal government. Everything Democrats love!
Buttcrush1 on
Nothing like getting credit for fixing the economy when none of your programs made anything better and then building camps for your own people.
Absolutely awful president
BluBolshevik on
FDR was one of the truest forms of fascism and people don’t want to accept that
jonawesome on
Lots of good stuff about FDR, but we shouldn’t forget that he rounded up hundreds of thousands of American citizens and put them into concentration camps.
Or that he limited Jewish immigration while they were fleeing the Holocaust.
FDR is easily a top 5 president for me but let’s not pretend that we can’t learn more and worse awful things about him as well.
Real_Boy3 on
Probably the best American president besides maybe Lincoln. But the bar is so incredibly low that it’s in Hell, so it’s really not saying much: dude did plenty of horrible things.
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The greatest class traitor in American history.
Well I’d say that making concentration camps to put Japanese migrants and Japanese-American citizens there was not his shiniest moment
Edit: I wrote originally concentration camps, but as u/cheapcheap1 pointed it wouldn’t be accurate at all. Another correction thanks to u/weathergage input. However, besides his original input and the reasonable explaination he provided to use that term, after a lot of comments and specially u/JyubiKurama one, I restored the original comment refering tho those as concentration camps.
Concentration camps don’t have to mean the same as extermination camps, while the later are a variety of the former.
I’d say stealing every Americans gold and making it illegal to have bullion coins in your possession was -100,000,000 aura
I personally find him terrifying.
I hope America gets another POTUS like FDR real soon…
i don’t think similar sentiments will be shared by Koreans or the American Japanese
I don’t know about that. I mean in a cocktail party, a lot of people would look down on him when he makes conversation.
Opinions are going to be mixed on FDR. He did have aura though.
The dude stole all the gold in America and interned american citizens. Dude was a piece of shit.
Executive Order 6102, look it up if you don’t believe me about the gold thing.
Edit: I almost forgot. He tried to overthrow the government to secure his power. Remember when he tried to pack the supreme court with 6 new judges at once? He also spat in George Washington’s face by having a 3rd term.
Imagine being a president so dangerous and hated that congress enacts a constitutional amendment against your actions. He is the reason why we have only 2 terms per president. Until him every president stuck to 2 terms in honor of George Washington.
You sure about that?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_military_government_in_France
>President Roosevelt and his administration drafted several plans to reshape European politics after the war. Roosevelt proposed to Anthony Eden the creation of a new state called Wallonia, which involved removing Alsace-Lorraine and parts of Hauts-de-France from France to give them to Belgium. This plan was ultimately abandoned.
But I guess De Gaulle was “arrogant” as the Americans keep repeating on this sub for daring to oppose this god-awful plan
Posts like these remind me of how they looked more up from a specific bias.
Mogged
Based and true
He really was the right person in the right place at the right time. He was instrumental in the US victory in WWII, as well as in ending the Great Depression.
lol ah yes FDR. The tyrant in a wheelchair. Such aura. Superior to everyone, but more superior than the Japanese US citizens, the Supreme Court, and the constitution
The arguably biggest and most important opponent of Hitler and who was instrumental for his defeat was a man Hitler would view as an inferior being. There is something very beautiful about that.
A threat to democracy.
As a french, I have a lot of mixed opinions about this guy. I’m at least glad he couldn’t make France into the client state it was planned
The power and unimaginable wealth of the US was built on the new deal and after ww2.
Politicians have spent the last 80 years trying to destroy everything FDR created for short term personal profit
This is why reactionaries (even in this thread) love to point to the WWII camps as if they invalidate every great thing he accomplished.
The oligarchs still live in fear of another FDR. Greatest president the U.S. ever had.
The Japanese Internment camp thing pisses me off so much because he would have went down as a near perfect president.
Spousal abuse and Japanese-American concentration camps say what?!
Meeting your wife at a family reunion is a little questionable
The dude had three separate woman become romantically involved with him; two after he was disable; and one was so enamored she died when she saw him with some duchess
Most authoritarian US president, interned US citizens in concentration camps, ordered the destruction of masses of foodstuffs and livestock at a time when millions were forced to stand in food lines, and if forcing the sale of private property at rates significantly below market isn’t theft, I don’t know what is.
Glazing FDR is vastly overrated.
Looksmaxxing by the greatest of all time who died from a heart condition while beating Adolf to death with his own hand.
Didn’t he also force everyone to sell their gold for way under the value and then resell it back to the public at an even higher price?
LOL. Are you like pro prison camps and all sorts of racial discrimination?
He put Japanese people in internment camps.
I genuinely enjoyed this conversation
his supreme court nominations were amazing
80 years later and he STILL scares the shit out of Conservatives, so he was clearly doing something right.
I really like him, the three things I don’t like is his strong opposition to De Gaulle (and his plan for post WW2 France), the Japanese concentration camp, and what he gave free to the soviet at the end (but for that last I can understand it more)
FDR’s Museum changed how I viewed him. I highly recommend it. If you do his museum and mansion it takes literally all day to get through.
Hyde Park, NY is little out of the way but accessible via driving or a train ride from NYC and you can make a decent trip out of it. Along with FDR’s museum/mansion the Vanderbilts had a giant mansion down the road, Samuel Morse had a cool mansion there, and Eleanor’s place Val-Kill is there as well. For dinner you go to the culinary institute of America which has a killer restaurant.
You can also take a train down to Newburgh which is an absolute dump of a town, but contains Washington’s Headquarters Historic Site which was where the Continental Army was encamped for the last 16 months of the Revolutionary War along with the National Purple Heart Hall of Honor. West Point is just south of there as well.
There’s also some cool towns north of Hyde Park too like Staatsburg and Rhinebeck which have a lot of cool historic sites.
The point here is go to FDR’s museum and spend some time in the Hudson River Valley area. You will not be disappointed.
Not if you’re from the Tennessee Valley.
Well I’m beginning to think he’s a tad better than the fella we got now.
is this a meme about his well documented racism?
Great at war, not great at fixing a depression.
The more you learn about his competition, the angrier you get. I just learned about Herbert Hoover, MacArthur, and Patton using the military to gas, shoot, and bayonett US veterans in a march on DC.
Japanese Internment doesn’t help his long term legacy much
Concentration Camps and a huge bloated wasteful federal government. Everything Democrats love!
Nothing like getting credit for fixing the economy when none of your programs made anything better and then building camps for your own people.
Absolutely awful president
FDR was one of the truest forms of fascism and people don’t want to accept that
Lots of good stuff about FDR, but we shouldn’t forget that he rounded up hundreds of thousands of American citizens and put them into concentration camps.
Or that he limited Jewish immigration while they were fleeing the Holocaust.
FDR is easily a top 5 president for me but let’s not pretend that we can’t learn more and worse awful things about him as well.
Probably the best American president besides maybe Lincoln. But the bar is so incredibly low that it’s in Hell, so it’s really not saying much: dude did plenty of horrible things.