The most media coverage any genocide has ever received. I would be happy if at least the Holodomor were taught alongside it
by RadaRAW
The most media coverage any genocide has ever received. I would be happy if at least the Holodomor were taught alongside it
by RadaRAW
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Yeah, strange how murdering millions of people in murder facilities built to exterminate as much people as possible on an instudrial scale gets most media coverage instead of old school death marches or deaths by hunger
It gets that much attention because Nazism is the political “devil” for the west
To be fair, the syllabus only has room for one tragedy per century. The rest are just ‘famine-related incidents’ according to my 10th-grade textbook.
Um, which history books did you read and where did you go to school?
Armenian genocide, mass murder and starvation under Khmer Rogue, famines in USSR and China are common knowlage where I am from. Rwandan genocide too, I think at least because some people remember reports from it. Holocaust too, but in western media it is often dropped what happend to Poles, Greeks, Czechs, Soviets and Yugoslavs under Nazi occupation but that is understandable.
Maybe lesser known would be French conduct during Algerian war or Ethiopian civil war.
Well duh, the allies helped create the other one if not actually did them.
Not my school. We had a whole project where we all were assigned one genocide to do a project about and then present to the class. I remember mine being a scrapbook full of dead corpses, the country’s flag, history of their govt, that kind of stuff. No one was allowed to get the holocaust because that was too easy and well known. This was 20+ students so at least that many genocides we had to learn about. This was in the mid 2000s and I was in 8th grade in case anyone is wondering. I always look back and think that was kind of a strange assignment.
Hot take, you simply cannot cover history comprehensively in high school.
It is not a moral failing of the school system that they don’t cover every single topic.
For instance, I have spent the better part of the year learning solely about Napoleon’s Russian campaign. Reading nearly 10,000 pages.
That’s less than a year of history being covered and you all act like everyone should be taught this in high school.
Atrocities are not an Olympics but Patagonia not even being mentionned fits right in
Mentioning it happened is basically the bare minimum.
My history book taught most of those.
i think it left out the herero/namaqua genocide, and rwandan genocide though.
You have been reading the wrong history books then.
The Namibian War
This is not even true in Holocaust museums. Learning about the Holocaust is how I learned about Rwanda et al.
I assumed everyone watched Hotel Rwanda
I agree that other genocides ought to be taught. The Holodomor is not hidden if you do your own research, and plenty of American schools teach the Rwandan, Herero, and Armenian genocides.
But I also don’t mind that the Holocaust is usually the first one taught. Germany was a highly educated western society, with a democratic constitution, and highly assimilated Jewish population. For western audiences, that a genocide could happen teaches that it could happen in their own country too, if they aren’t vigilant.
For as brutal as it was, the Nianking tragedy must be taught
I think the largescale global targeting (though largely only able to execute in Europe) of ethnic group based on the belief that the secrectly controlled the world is far more disturbing then the other slaughters of the 20th century based off awful but real ethnic conflict and anti-minoritian bias.
Disgusting whataboutism. Wow, I wonder why the largest and most industrialised genocide in history, and the one that is also associated with the biggest and most destructive war in history, gets more coverage than an event like the Holodomor whose status as a genocide is not even universally agreed upon by historians (my name is imprison Grover Furr so don’t anyone dare call me a tankie for simply acknowledging that historians debate whether it’s a genocide, because they do and that’s a simple fact).
Also, literally all basic world history curricula outside of Turkey and Azerbaijan do cover the Armenian Genocide; it’s the most studied genocide besides the Holocaust and was the first one to be academically studied as such.
Not the point of the post but the Armenian Genocide was taught to us in the 20th century unit.
I understand the frustration but the way history education is structured, not everything can be taught. But bringing awareness about history that can and should be learned outside classes is important too
Where did you go to school where the holodomor wasnt taught?
This is all part of the not very subtle and endless social media campaign looking to minimize the holocaust and use anti-Israel rhetoric to exacerbate western culture wars.
China, Russia, Iran, and Qatar all enjoying the show
It’s almost like it’s the most well-documented genocide in history
Mainly because the holocaust
1. Happened during the most important even of the 20th century
2. Was a mass murder of the likes never seen before or after in human history.
To put things into perspective about 70 percent of Jewish people in Europe were killed, about half of the total world Jewish population. In a matter of just 6 or so years.
Everyone forgot about pol pot.
The holodomor was taught I learned it in 10th grade. You just didn’t pay attention in school
When I was in HS we covered the holocaust, holodomor, Rwanda genocide and first nations genocide/residential school system.
You’re missing the most horrific one of them all, the nanjing massacre.
Look, when the British conquered Canada and New France, a good third of the total population was killed, while something like 75% to 90% of the Natives died.
It was, in proportion of the total population, a fucking maelstrom of atrocities, but since it didn’t reach the million magic number, you never hear about it. You may have heard about the smallpox blankets, but that’s it.
It makes me pissy, but at the same time, I do get it. There’s no ambiguity about the Nazis death camps. It’s blatantly awful, it was complete deliberate, planned, industrialized and managed with the period best practices. Engineers designing the gas chambers so they could be filled with people, gases, aired, bodies removed and clean in the most efficient and cost-effective way. Region administrators and camp managers had targets to reach and ratios to maintain, bonuses, privileges and all that. Plus it was filmed, photographed, documented, people were executed for it and so on. It’s not a mob gone wild or semi rogue military outfits in a collapsing state who committed them.
Plus, those who committed the atrocities are safe targets. There’s almost no controversy about what happened except for a very loud miniature minority.
People can’t say it happened long time ago while some survivors are still alive.
Also another point, the Holocaust is easy to film, it’s a cheap setup, located in a biome so generic that an Holocaust movie could be shot and be credible and almost all continents.
Brother you cannot even cover the Holocaust in Highschool, you get at best a very brief overview. These things take years of study in order to really understand how they happen, and to most people it’s simply not worth it. Covering other genocides in public education is nothing short of a pipe dream at this juncture. Not saying they shouldn’t, just that as things stand there is no shot.