Should read Stalin when Beria touches someone else’s kids.
Efficient-Orchid-594 on
An actual funny meme on this sub ?
Vana92 on
“Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas.”
Beria didn’t have ideas, corruption is not an idea…. Those are not threats, at least not major one’s.
At least according to Stalin.
PikaCommandoRipoff on
Sir, there was no 29th February in 1923.
WDGaster15 on
Wait… do you mean 29th February *1924*?
Belkan-Federation95 on
I think I read somewhere that Stalin was planning on getting rid of Beria but was collecting evidence for a show trial.
GustavoistSoldier on
Stalin hated Beria outside of his usefulness and told his daughter never to be alone with Beria.
SoutieNaaier on
There’s actually no real evidence that Beria touched kids and the allegations most come from Svetlana Stalin’s apologia of her father. Her claims don’t like up with contemporary accounts and movements.
For example, she states Stalin banned Beria from dacha retreats. Beria was actually the only consistent invitee on Stalin’s dacha retreats throughout their friendship. There’s no reason to lie about this, so there’s clearly an agenda in her work and Beria wasn’t alive to deny them + he’d been written out of history at this point. He was an easy literary device to place Stalin’s own crimes on. I.e. “Dad didn’t do it, he ordered X and Beria did Y”. It’s mostly ahistorical
Furthermore, a lot of the claims about Beria are literal fabrications made up to discredit him when he was trying to become a reformist leader. He wanted to more or less castrate the Slavic old guard and build a coalition from the Caucasus and Central Asian spheres of the Soviet Union, along with disengaging from East Germany and ceding parts of Eastern Europe to the West to avoid direct Soviet-NATO conflict.
Maneuvers by Krueshkev and his Allies against Beria included kangaroo court style exaggerations and fabrications that had no real evidentiary standing. It was just to discredit his ideas and make him a nonperson.
Amy Knight’s autobiography of Beria is really good at explaining these misconceptions and separating Soviet mythos from fact
99posse on
Stalin, Beria… Apparently every regime has their p*dos
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Here is a list of famous Old Bolsheviks who were [killed during Stalin’s great purge](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Bolsheviks#:~:text=Died%20in%20the%20Stalinist%20purges)
Should read Stalin when Beria touches someone else’s kids.
An actual funny meme on this sub ?
“Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas.”
Beria didn’t have ideas, corruption is not an idea…. Those are not threats, at least not major one’s.
At least according to Stalin.
Sir, there was no 29th February in 1923.
Wait… do you mean 29th February *1924*?
I think I read somewhere that Stalin was planning on getting rid of Beria but was collecting evidence for a show trial.
Stalin hated Beria outside of his usefulness and told his daughter never to be alone with Beria.
There’s actually no real evidence that Beria touched kids and the allegations most come from Svetlana Stalin’s apologia of her father. Her claims don’t like up with contemporary accounts and movements.
For example, she states Stalin banned Beria from dacha retreats. Beria was actually the only consistent invitee on Stalin’s dacha retreats throughout their friendship. There’s no reason to lie about this, so there’s clearly an agenda in her work and Beria wasn’t alive to deny them + he’d been written out of history at this point. He was an easy literary device to place Stalin’s own crimes on. I.e. “Dad didn’t do it, he ordered X and Beria did Y”. It’s mostly ahistorical
Furthermore, a lot of the claims about Beria are literal fabrications made up to discredit him when he was trying to become a reformist leader. He wanted to more or less castrate the Slavic old guard and build a coalition from the Caucasus and Central Asian spheres of the Soviet Union, along with disengaging from East Germany and ceding parts of Eastern Europe to the West to avoid direct Soviet-NATO conflict.
Maneuvers by Krueshkev and his Allies against Beria included kangaroo court style exaggerations and fabrications that had no real evidentiary standing. It was just to discredit his ideas and make him a nonperson.
Amy Knight’s autobiography of Beria is really good at explaining these misconceptions and separating Soviet mythos from fact
Stalin, Beria… Apparently every regime has their p*dos