7 dead is still 7 too much, but how can you put those events side to side ?
We talk more about WW2 than the battle of bumfuck bridge where 10 people died, care to guess why ?
SatansFurryButtboy69 on
Reminds me of the Gwangju Massacre. Happened a year before Tianamen Square, also happened in Asia, essentially the same context – students lead a protest against the government, government sends military to slaughter them. Yet most Westerners aren’t even aware of it.
YoumoDashi on
Those evil Tenochtitlan people
Magister_Hego_Damask on
What else could we have expected when De Gaulle kept Papon, a former Vichy government member who was in charge of the deportation trains, as head of police in Paris
Rgamer13 on
Fuck Ordaz and Echeverria. Motherfuckers died without paying for their crimes
-Nohan- on
I remember playing TNO back when their 3-years-of-content-for-Mexico update dropped and ending up with Diaz Ordaz and being like “wow! This guy is a piece of shit!” (I didn’t know much about ‘60s Mexico until that point).
Then I looked him up and found out about the Tlatelolco Massacre and that just confirmed my opinion. I hope he’s rotting in hell.
hansuluthegrey on
Uh oh people are upset that you pointed out their inconsistent beliefs
The point isnt the death count. The point us how similar it was and crickets
pbaagui1 on
OP lacks common sense
lanceasr on
Not from the Cold War but more people should know about the Jallianwala Bagh Massacre/Amritsar Massacre.
It came at a time where British Colonial rule in India was facing the highest animosity it had faced from the country since the First War Of Independence/Sepoy Mutiny in 1857. The British had just passed the Rowlatt Act, effectively curbing Nationist and Pro-Independence movements and the arrests of numerous activists like Saiffudin Kitchlew and Satyapal
On April 13th, 1919 a crowd had gathered atthe Jallianwala Bagh in Amritsar for the annual Baisakhi fair. They were conducting a *peaceful* protest against the Rowlatt and the arrests. But in response to the peaceful gathering, General Reginald Dyer surrounded the crowd with soldiers from the British-Indian Army. The most cruel thing about that is that it was mostly Nepalese Gurkhas and Sikh Infantrymen.
The soldiers were ordered to fire on the peaceful demonstrators. The Jallianwala Bagh only had one real exit, as the rest were blocked off by buildings. Dyer had gone the extra mile to blockade the only available entrance before the massacre. He orderedtthe troops to shoot at everyone at sight, even those who were fleeing. Men, women and children were gunned down indiscriminately for the crime of expressing their disdain for their overlords.
The soldiers only stopped firing once the ammunition ran dry. By the end, anywhere between 400 and 1,500 people had been killed, with 1,200 injured and 192 sustaining serious injuries. The British government is still yet to fully apologize for the massacre.
Later, General Dyer even went on to defend his inhumane actions. He claimed he did it to cause a “moral effect” throughout Punjab and to punish the gathered for “disobedience”. He testified to ordering his men to shoot low and to shoot where the crowds were the thickest. Learning all this in school-level history really had an impression on me.
My heart goes out to all the people all over the world who’ve laid down their lives in the pursuit of freedom and the right to simply be. There is nothing greater to be won than freedom.
Kinexity on
Of those three which ones are forbidden topics leading to imprisonment in the respective countries where they happened?
This post deserves rule 6 removal.
Dongzhimen on
As someone who used to teach history in France. It was part of my curriculum when teaching the Algerian War.
DefTheOcelot on
Mainstream western historians do fine with this.
It’s just highschool textbooks in america like this. What we get for doing nothing about all of them being made in texas this long
MauschelMusic on
Wild to call Chinese students burning soldiers and cops alive, breaking into an armory and riding around, shooting at random “peaceful demonstrators.”
_Dushman on
Gwangju, Paris, Kent State, all those massacres that aren’t talked about enough because it was the “good guys” shooting unarmed protesters
TheMightyPaladin on
after Tiananmen Square no one at all remembers those other 2, especially since both were covered up for decades and not exposed until no one remembered them. You should probably put Kent State in the number 2 position because people still remember it once in a while and then either of those 2 could be number 3.
DonCaliente on
Hey, I can do this one too!
– the use of chemical weapons during WWI
– the use of chemical weapons by Saddam on the Kurds
– that German dude who went to New York and was served tacos with hot salsa that was too spicy
Atsusaki on
Ok wumao, these events are comparable.
Le_Zoru on
Idk if you are american or something but this massacre is literaly part of the basic curriculum in every French high school?
Spy_crab_ on
Do tell which nation actively suppresses knowledge and discussion of the massacre?
YeOldeOle on
What even is a mainstream western historian meant to be? Same vibe as “akshually, the mainstream media does not want you to…” statements.
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7 dead is still 7 too much, but how can you put those events side to side ?
We talk more about WW2 than the battle of bumfuck bridge where 10 people died, care to guess why ?
Reminds me of the Gwangju Massacre. Happened a year before Tianamen Square, also happened in Asia, essentially the same context – students lead a protest against the government, government sends military to slaughter them. Yet most Westerners aren’t even aware of it.
Those evil Tenochtitlan people
What else could we have expected when De Gaulle kept Papon, a former Vichy government member who was in charge of the deportation trains, as head of police in Paris
Fuck Ordaz and Echeverria. Motherfuckers died without paying for their crimes
I remember playing TNO back when their 3-years-of-content-for-Mexico update dropped and ending up with Diaz Ordaz and being like “wow! This guy is a piece of shit!” (I didn’t know much about ‘60s Mexico until that point).
Then I looked him up and found out about the Tlatelolco Massacre and that just confirmed my opinion. I hope he’s rotting in hell.
Uh oh people are upset that you pointed out their inconsistent beliefs
The point isnt the death count. The point us how similar it was and crickets
OP lacks common sense
Not from the Cold War but more people should know about the Jallianwala Bagh Massacre/Amritsar Massacre.
It came at a time where British Colonial rule in India was facing the highest animosity it had faced from the country since the First War Of Independence/Sepoy Mutiny in 1857. The British had just passed the Rowlatt Act, effectively curbing Nationist and Pro-Independence movements and the arrests of numerous activists like Saiffudin Kitchlew and Satyapal
On April 13th, 1919 a crowd had gathered atthe Jallianwala Bagh in Amritsar for the annual Baisakhi fair. They were conducting a *peaceful* protest against the Rowlatt and the arrests. But in response to the peaceful gathering, General Reginald Dyer surrounded the crowd with soldiers from the British-Indian Army. The most cruel thing about that is that it was mostly Nepalese Gurkhas and Sikh Infantrymen.
The soldiers were ordered to fire on the peaceful demonstrators. The Jallianwala Bagh only had one real exit, as the rest were blocked off by buildings. Dyer had gone the extra mile to blockade the only available entrance before the massacre. He orderedtthe troops to shoot at everyone at sight, even those who were fleeing. Men, women and children were gunned down indiscriminately for the crime of expressing their disdain for their overlords.
The soldiers only stopped firing once the ammunition ran dry. By the end, anywhere between 400 and 1,500 people had been killed, with 1,200 injured and 192 sustaining serious injuries. The British government is still yet to fully apologize for the massacre.
Later, General Dyer even went on to defend his inhumane actions. He claimed he did it to cause a “moral effect” throughout Punjab and to punish the gathered for “disobedience”. He testified to ordering his men to shoot low and to shoot where the crowds were the thickest. Learning all this in school-level history really had an impression on me.
My heart goes out to all the people all over the world who’ve laid down their lives in the pursuit of freedom and the right to simply be. There is nothing greater to be won than freedom.
Of those three which ones are forbidden topics leading to imprisonment in the respective countries where they happened?
This post deserves rule 6 removal.
As someone who used to teach history in France. It was part of my curriculum when teaching the Algerian War.
Mainstream western historians do fine with this.
It’s just highschool textbooks in america like this. What we get for doing nothing about all of them being made in texas this long
Wild to call Chinese students burning soldiers and cops alive, breaking into an armory and riding around, shooting at random “peaceful demonstrators.”
Gwangju, Paris, Kent State, all those massacres that aren’t talked about enough because it was the “good guys” shooting unarmed protesters
after Tiananmen Square no one at all remembers those other 2, especially since both were covered up for decades and not exposed until no one remembered them. You should probably put Kent State in the number 2 position because people still remember it once in a while and then either of those 2 could be number 3.
Hey, I can do this one too!
– the use of chemical weapons during WWI
– the use of chemical weapons by Saddam on the Kurds
– that German dude who went to New York and was served tacos with hot salsa that was too spicy
Ok wumao, these events are comparable.
Idk if you are american or something but this massacre is literaly part of the basic curriculum in every French high school?
Do tell which nation actively suppresses knowledge and discussion of the massacre?
What even is a mainstream western historian meant to be? Same vibe as “akshually, the mainstream media does not want you to…” statements.