bro, I’m watching ballet every day! I put on my Chopin Concerto CD, I pour my aged wine in a crystal glass, I put my Fabergé buttplug in my coiffed hole, put on my pink tutu and slippers, and I’m all ready for ballet and opera
Realistic_Effort6185 on
It’s all a distraction from the very in-everyone’s-face disdain/disgust those who were/are entrusted with power have over us (the poors/peasants).
ich_bin_alkoholiker on
I don’t like him, no lie there. He can suck a fuck.
23Kently on
NGL, if it wasn’t for the dress code I’d probably go more often. But after 30, athleisure became a larger part of my life.
***Viva the high arts tho***
wallytrikes on
When elitism and exclusivity comes home to roost.
Nyktastik on
I’m sorry but tickets to the Met and ballet are NOT $35. The reality is these “high art” institutions have ostracized and excluded Black and Brown and low income people for generations. I’m not going to go somewhere where I feel eyes like daggers on me and I feel unwanted. I’m not going to go somewhere and spend $200 for nosebleed seats behind a pillar.
NoAttorney9330 on
What’s crazy is that his mom, sister and grandmother were DEVOTED to ballet.
People think he’s just on a vendetta against ballet + opera.
He is communicating a POV that the closest women in his life have shared with him. He is jaded because his mom, sister and granny are jaded.
Man told the honest truth from the POV of practitioners in his family and people attacked him. Attack the mfs in the Epstein files like this. Attack the current administration like this. Priorities PLEASE
Epstein files, mfs at war with Iran, mfs out here not able to eat, American food systems are wrecked,
American healthcare is wrecked, American legal system is wrecked, American law enforcement is wrecked, American education is wrecked, rich folks still not paying taxes and you bombarasclats pressed about Timmy Chevrolet’s stance on the performing arts (of which he was correct about)
This world is INSANE. Nobody cares.
Everyday I more and more understand the stance of the recluse/hermit. Shutting the world completely out be looking MIGHTY fucking tempting boy, I tell you whut! The mfs that give up on society ain’t looking so crazy/sad to me now. I’m tired bro. I can’t believe this is a actual cultural conversation with the 1,000,000 other things we just aren’t addressing.
AdministrationDue750 on
Yeah, I understand that the arts are the life blood of a country but this country is in a tail spin, we have more important things to worry about. If we deal with this bullshit government and become stable again then we can go back to it but right now that is just a distraction
Wave_File on
the part of this whole scenario I actually don’t give a fuck about is Timothée Chalamet. The current state of the arts and their patronage can be troubling. However, some forms of art eventually do die off and lose relevance. It’s just the way of the world throughout history.
Chlorophyllmatic on
His delivery sucked and people are looking for excuses to not like him anyway, but his core message of not wanting to get into some sort of art for the sole purpose of preserving that art despite waning popularity is a fair one. Opera and ballet don’t have the same cultural significance as 100 years ago and that shouldn’t be a controversial thing to say.
dz2048 on
Name 5 ballets without googling them.
BlackBoiFlyy on
Okay, I didn’t like where this started, but they made the point I was gonna get at as the video went on. People dont care cause these arts are typically exclusive to upper class people. People are typically priced out of these arts and it’s misleading to paint it as “Folks aren’t as cultured anymore” like we weren’t literally locked out.
PleasantWrongdoer161 on
Usermena on
The high arts have always been run by rabid gatekeepers and now somehow all the people they have kept out are crying that someone told the truth about the situation. People are soooo dim.
Doobledorf on
He didn’t say anything remotely controversial. A friend of mine works in opera, it’s true.
cheezy_dreams88 on
It wasn’t that he said it’s a dying art form. Everything is about how he said it.
People DO care about these art forms, but they are elitist art forms. A random Wednesday night opera has nosebleeds for $200 each ticket. It’s not $35 per person. A Saturday night show front row seats are $400 or more.
If you want to make art that reaches people- they need to be able to GO to them.
gbe276 on
We bailed on Nutcracker this year, ticket prices were through the roof.
tansanmizu on
Let’s not put words in Tims mouth. Not sure why this dude felt the need to play devils advocate. As if the film industry also isn’t suffering. People in the US are addicted to low brow, fast content, and Timmy is gonna do whatever he can to extract the most money and relevance he can from it.
CVipersTie on
His delivery was bad. Ballet is a performing art. As is acting. I dont care about either of them, but I WILL appreciate a performance that people put their blood, sweat, and tears into. I dont care about Chalamet, but I do appreciate other actors over him.
Erchamion_1 on
To be fair, I really do dislike Timothee Chalamet.
Hefty-Pineapple-1910 on
These institutions have, generally speaking, not made much effort to appeal to wider audiences—but something tells me that is directly related to this country’s general devaluation of the arts. Elites do not want you engaging with art unless it can be easily weaponized in their favor, and the truth about cinema is that that immediate, loud, hyper-stylized in-your-face medium is fucking perfect for distraction and/or propaganda.
Opera, ballet, classical music, theatre, etc. require a different kind of engagement. Not because they’re inherently deeper or more refined, no, but because they just aren’t as flashy. You have to think a little harder and be a little more present to enjoy them.
And in the era of Twitter, Love Island Season 500, and the single most overstimulating President in history, I don’t think it should come as a surprise to anyone that the people who run the United States would love nothing more than for all art, all media, all of life to become background noise for you.
Make no mistake: this shit is coming for cinema, too. Nothing is exempt.
iMissTheOldInternet on
I absolutely love people who are just honest and insist on people looking reality in the face. More power to this man.
TelenorTheGNP on
Hearing that “the Saudis just bought them out” is something I hear worryingly often.
I’m in North America, so I’m not sure what the issue is like globally, but here, at least, young people are increasingly absent from cultural spaces. Churches have lost so many people under 40. Theaters are facing real trouble. Symphonies are probably in the same space. How many people under 40 do you know who can play an instrument? If I asked a kid who Mozart is, I wouldnt be surprised if they thought it was a streamer. Arts programs at highschools and universities are in really challenging shape.
DrGutz on
This is exactly just people who are annoyed from his marketing campaign using this opportunity to pounce on him
fekanix on
One of the best comments i saw was that people who got outraged by tims statement should name one opera singer, one company, one ballet dancer or company.
Ballet and opera are old art forms that totally still have interested people but they are outdated. And i dont mean this as in they arent worth anything but popular art forms change over time and if the vast majority doesnt care about your artform anymore you are outdated, you might be niche but you arent popular anymore that is the truth.
AWMIGHTY on
J’Nai Bridges
cheesefrieswithgravy on
I mean I was an opera singer because I was good at it and even I didn’t actually love it. He’s not wrong.
Folk-Herro on
I didn’t get why this was a “scandal”
ImTellingTheEmperor on
The Pokemon in the city dude has good takes, surprise surprise.
DangerBird- on
If anyone cared about “high arts”, I’d be doing oil paintings instead of drawing rectangles on a computer. There’s no money in it, and anyone in the High Arts knows this very well.
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bro, I’m watching ballet every day! I put on my Chopin Concerto CD, I pour my aged wine in a crystal glass, I put my Fabergé buttplug in my coiffed hole, put on my pink tutu and slippers, and I’m all ready for ballet and opera
It’s all a distraction from the very in-everyone’s-face disdain/disgust those who were/are entrusted with power have over us (the poors/peasants).
I don’t like him, no lie there. He can suck a fuck.
NGL, if it wasn’t for the dress code I’d probably go more often. But after 30, athleisure became a larger part of my life.
***Viva the high arts tho***
When elitism and exclusivity comes home to roost.
I’m sorry but tickets to the Met and ballet are NOT $35. The reality is these “high art” institutions have ostracized and excluded Black and Brown and low income people for generations. I’m not going to go somewhere where I feel eyes like daggers on me and I feel unwanted. I’m not going to go somewhere and spend $200 for nosebleed seats behind a pillar.
What’s crazy is that his mom, sister and grandmother were DEVOTED to ballet.
People think he’s just on a vendetta against ballet + opera.
He is communicating a POV that the closest women in his life have shared with him. He is jaded because his mom, sister and granny are jaded.
Man told the honest truth from the POV of practitioners in his family and people attacked him. Attack the mfs in the Epstein files like this. Attack the current administration like this. Priorities PLEASE
Epstein files, mfs at war with Iran, mfs out here not able to eat, American food systems are wrecked,
American healthcare is wrecked, American legal system is wrecked, American law enforcement is wrecked, American education is wrecked, rich folks still not paying taxes and you bombarasclats pressed about Timmy Chevrolet’s stance on the performing arts (of which he was correct about)
This world is INSANE. Nobody cares.
Everyday I more and more understand the stance of the recluse/hermit. Shutting the world completely out be looking MIGHTY fucking tempting boy, I tell you whut! The mfs that give up on society ain’t looking so crazy/sad to me now. I’m tired bro. I can’t believe this is a actual cultural conversation with the 1,000,000 other things we just aren’t addressing.
Yeah, I understand that the arts are the life blood of a country but this country is in a tail spin, we have more important things to worry about. If we deal with this bullshit government and become stable again then we can go back to it but right now that is just a distraction
the part of this whole scenario I actually don’t give a fuck about is Timothée Chalamet. The current state of the arts and their patronage can be troubling. However, some forms of art eventually do die off and lose relevance. It’s just the way of the world throughout history.
His delivery sucked and people are looking for excuses to not like him anyway, but his core message of not wanting to get into some sort of art for the sole purpose of preserving that art despite waning popularity is a fair one. Opera and ballet don’t have the same cultural significance as 100 years ago and that shouldn’t be a controversial thing to say.
Name 5 ballets without googling them.
Okay, I didn’t like where this started, but they made the point I was gonna get at as the video went on. People dont care cause these arts are typically exclusive to upper class people. People are typically priced out of these arts and it’s misleading to paint it as “Folks aren’t as cultured anymore” like we weren’t literally locked out.
The high arts have always been run by rabid gatekeepers and now somehow all the people they have kept out are crying that someone told the truth about the situation. People are soooo dim.
He didn’t say anything remotely controversial. A friend of mine works in opera, it’s true.
It wasn’t that he said it’s a dying art form. Everything is about how he said it.
People DO care about these art forms, but they are elitist art forms. A random Wednesday night opera has nosebleeds for $200 each ticket. It’s not $35 per person. A Saturday night show front row seats are $400 or more.
If you want to make art that reaches people- they need to be able to GO to them.
We bailed on Nutcracker this year, ticket prices were through the roof.
Let’s not put words in Tims mouth. Not sure why this dude felt the need to play devils advocate. As if the film industry also isn’t suffering. People in the US are addicted to low brow, fast content, and Timmy is gonna do whatever he can to extract the most money and relevance he can from it.
His delivery was bad. Ballet is a performing art. As is acting. I dont care about either of them, but I WILL appreciate a performance that people put their blood, sweat, and tears into. I dont care about Chalamet, but I do appreciate other actors over him.
To be fair, I really do dislike Timothee Chalamet.
These institutions have, generally speaking, not made much effort to appeal to wider audiences—but something tells me that is directly related to this country’s general devaluation of the arts. Elites do not want you engaging with art unless it can be easily weaponized in their favor, and the truth about cinema is that that immediate, loud, hyper-stylized in-your-face medium is fucking perfect for distraction and/or propaganda.
Opera, ballet, classical music, theatre, etc. require a different kind of engagement. Not because they’re inherently deeper or more refined, no, but because they just aren’t as flashy. You have to think a little harder and be a little more present to enjoy them.
And in the era of Twitter, Love Island Season 500, and the single most overstimulating President in history, I don’t think it should come as a surprise to anyone that the people who run the United States would love nothing more than for all art, all media, all of life to become background noise for you.
Make no mistake: this shit is coming for cinema, too. Nothing is exempt.
I absolutely love people who are just honest and insist on people looking reality in the face. More power to this man.
Hearing that “the Saudis just bought them out” is something I hear worryingly often.
I’m in North America, so I’m not sure what the issue is like globally, but here, at least, young people are increasingly absent from cultural spaces. Churches have lost so many people under 40. Theaters are facing real trouble. Symphonies are probably in the same space. How many people under 40 do you know who can play an instrument? If I asked a kid who Mozart is, I wouldnt be surprised if they thought it was a streamer. Arts programs at highschools and universities are in really challenging shape.
This is exactly just people who are annoyed from his marketing campaign using this opportunity to pounce on him
One of the best comments i saw was that people who got outraged by tims statement should name one opera singer, one company, one ballet dancer or company.
Ballet and opera are old art forms that totally still have interested people but they are outdated. And i dont mean this as in they arent worth anything but popular art forms change over time and if the vast majority doesnt care about your artform anymore you are outdated, you might be niche but you arent popular anymore that is the truth.
J’Nai Bridges
I mean I was an opera singer because I was good at it and even I didn’t actually love it. He’s not wrong.
I didn’t get why this was a “scandal”
The Pokemon in the city dude has good takes, surprise surprise.
If anyone cared about “high arts”, I’d be doing oil paintings instead of drawing rectangles on a computer. There’s no money in it, and anyone in the High Arts knows this very well.
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