Never does this happen a lot.Not even Reddit uses 731 this much and isnt even known to a lot here due to Japan whitewashing it .
Key-Swordfish4025 on
It’s the Japanese version of making everything about America about school shootings.
Kyrez77 on
I never seen that happen. Most people associate Japan only with anime and sushi.
Beautiful-Share-4139 on
-China good.
-Tiananmen Square！
Svitiod on
Not redundant. Never redundant. Post-war Japan has used the anti-communist alliance with the US in a bizarre combination with the victimhood of Hiroshima as a shield against taking responsibility for a lot of horrible shit the Japanese Empire did in China and Korea. Not even overt anti-militarists like Hayao Miyazaki seems to be prepared and able to discuss this in japanese popular culture.
amievenrelevant on
Redditors either completely glazing modern Japan or talking about Japanese war crimes there is no in between
bimbochungo on
Not true. We also mention the Nanjing Massacre.
Ubeube_Purple21 on
Replace that with “xenophobia” since I see it brought up more often
Strategos1610 on
You summarised this whole subbredit, in fact if you made a post like this and have it about this sub listing every countries warcrime whenever its mentioned it would make the meme better than just Japan
IzK_3 on
I usually see this happen when a post about how Japan was the victim to the two atomic bombs and the subsequent postwar occupation. Framed in a way that ignores *what* the Japanese government and their military did during the war.
Visible_Event_4598 on
I think that happens with Bhutan too.
TheRagingMaffia on
I only drop Unit 731 in a conversation when talking about Japan during WW2. Most of the time when I’m talking to people about it, they explain that in their opinion the usage of the atomic bombs were a war crime and that they were unwarranted because ‘Japan wasn’t actually that bad besides the unprecedented attack on Pearl Harbor’. But whenever that happens I throw the invasion of China and Unit 731 into the mix and usually that simmers them down.
propro91 on
me when I strawman an imaginary opponet:
aaa1e2r3 on
That or Junko Furuta
TwoFar9854 on
May I ask where exactly people encounter this? If it’s just in this sub then I have to say it’s to be expected given that the topic is history, and the crimes are glaring enough to take centre stage when discussing WWII/sino-Japanese war. I honestly think Japanese atrocities are not mentioned ENOUGH in broader media, though it may be true that it is in excess here specifically.
kamikazekaktus on
Might happen less if they finally owned up to all the shit they pulled during the war
I_Drink_Apple_Juice on
After years of uncritical glazing/bashing the pedulum swang back, story as old as time itself.
Many-Rooster-7905 on
Is a man who kills a man who commited attrocities a hero?
If no, why even fight to stop it
If yes, Hitler is a hero
Wars are waged for profit, not for glory
MugroofAmeen on
People kept posting about Unit 731 and Nanjing massacre because Japan not only never apologized but actively denied those events.
TheTiddyQuest on
Reddit whenever you say anything positive about a Western country
“WHAT ABOUT THIS WAR CRIME THEY DID 70+ YEARS AGO!!!”
He_of_turqoise_blood on
Nah, whenever someone mentions Japan on the internet, Otaku swarm in, with useless facts and correcting even the slightest mistakes everyone makes
MicahHoover on
Stalin’s Purge (20 million deaths) and Mao’s Great Leap Forward (40 million deaths) are the verboten subjects of that era
doofername on
“Man this Rammstein song is a banger”
“Holocaust”
Murderboi on
This happens as often as someone talking about Germany then immeidately someone reply with Holocaust. Mostly in the heads of delusional people.
Buttfranklin2000 on
I got this nagging feeling as of lately, that it has become somewhat en vogue to shit on Japan. Moreso than on other countries. For whatever reason. If I want to go full tinfoil mode, it’s China pushing the discourse. But that’s a bit too conspiratory for me, I guess it’s just how online trends are. I mean, in the earlier days of youtube, there was this time when Downfall-redubs were the hottest craze, so of course you got hit with that Downfall-meme when German, or how for a long while it was just in to call the French cowards and make false claims about them always surrendering, when it was just a trend sparked by them not wanting to pull into a war the US started in the 00’s.
Still, it’s a bit odd. The whole “X when somewhere vs. X when Japan”-meme is not that new. It’s been on 4chan for probably over a decade now, because it was kinda fitting when it came to weeaboos. But it’s just lately that I seemingly see it everywhere in the broader space, from Twitter to Reddit, from Youtube to TikTok. It’s like – you can’t be a single bit positive towards japanese culture anymore, you constantly get hit with “BUT DID YOU KNOW JAPAN HAS RAPE TRAINS?” “DID YOU KNOW JAPAN WAS THE BAD GUYS IN WW2?” “DID YOU KNOW JAPAN IS NOT PERFECT AS A COUNTRY?”. It’s odd. Like no shit, there are bad things about cultures and countries, there is no perfect country or culture.
got-trunks on
What they were doing was in the name of discovering the secret to human cat genetic hybridization and I will not be convinced they were not close.
MissiaichParriah on
People really need to differentiate between Modern Japanese people and Imperial Japan. My country was one of the many that got devasted by Imperial Japan and it had horrific events that’s comparable to what they did to China, I also believe that both nukes were deserved and necessary, but I wouldn’t blame the modern Japanese people for that, the only thing that they should be criticized about them though is that their government aren’t acknowledging it making the populace think they’re just victims during the war
Wise-Self-4845 on
people dont react like this often enough, the japanese were on par with the nazis if not worse and didnt have any consequences like the germans did (after 2 atomic bombs of course)
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Does this happen that often?
Another day, another strawman
Never does this happen a lot.Not even Reddit uses 731 this much and isnt even known to a lot here due to Japan whitewashing it .
It’s the Japanese version of making everything about America about school shootings.
I never seen that happen. Most people associate Japan only with anime and sushi.
-China good.
-Tiananmen Square！
Not redundant. Never redundant. Post-war Japan has used the anti-communist alliance with the US in a bizarre combination with the victimhood of Hiroshima as a shield against taking responsibility for a lot of horrible shit the Japanese Empire did in China and Korea. Not even overt anti-militarists like Hayao Miyazaki seems to be prepared and able to discuss this in japanese popular culture.
Redditors either completely glazing modern Japan or talking about Japanese war crimes there is no in between
Not true. We also mention the Nanjing Massacre.
Replace that with “xenophobia” since I see it brought up more often
You summarised this whole subbredit, in fact if you made a post like this and have it about this sub listing every countries warcrime whenever its mentioned it would make the meme better than just Japan
I usually see this happen when a post about how Japan was the victim to the two atomic bombs and the subsequent postwar occupation. Framed in a way that ignores *what* the Japanese government and their military did during the war.
I think that happens with Bhutan too.
I only drop Unit 731 in a conversation when talking about Japan during WW2. Most of the time when I’m talking to people about it, they explain that in their opinion the usage of the atomic bombs were a war crime and that they were unwarranted because ‘Japan wasn’t actually that bad besides the unprecedented attack on Pearl Harbor’. But whenever that happens I throw the invasion of China and Unit 731 into the mix and usually that simmers them down.
me when I strawman an imaginary opponet:
That or Junko Furuta
May I ask where exactly people encounter this? If it’s just in this sub then I have to say it’s to be expected given that the topic is history, and the crimes are glaring enough to take centre stage when discussing WWII/sino-Japanese war. I honestly think Japanese atrocities are not mentioned ENOUGH in broader media, though it may be true that it is in excess here specifically.
Might happen less if they finally owned up to all the shit they pulled during the war
After years of uncritical glazing/bashing the pedulum swang back, story as old as time itself.
Is a man who kills a man who commited attrocities a hero?
If no, why even fight to stop it
If yes, Hitler is a hero
Wars are waged for profit, not for glory
People kept posting about Unit 731 and Nanjing massacre because Japan not only never apologized but actively denied those events.
Reddit whenever you say anything positive about a Western country
“WHAT ABOUT THIS WAR CRIME THEY DID 70+ YEARS AGO!!!”
Nah, whenever someone mentions Japan on the internet, Otaku swarm in, with useless facts and correcting even the slightest mistakes everyone makes
Stalin’s Purge (20 million deaths) and Mao’s Great Leap Forward (40 million deaths) are the verboten subjects of that era
“Man this Rammstein song is a banger”
“Holocaust”
This happens as often as someone talking about Germany then immeidately someone reply with Holocaust. Mostly in the heads of delusional people.
I got this nagging feeling as of lately, that it has become somewhat en vogue to shit on Japan. Moreso than on other countries. For whatever reason. If I want to go full tinfoil mode, it’s China pushing the discourse. But that’s a bit too conspiratory for me, I guess it’s just how online trends are. I mean, in the earlier days of youtube, there was this time when Downfall-redubs were the hottest craze, so of course you got hit with that Downfall-meme when German, or how for a long while it was just in to call the French cowards and make false claims about them always surrendering, when it was just a trend sparked by them not wanting to pull into a war the US started in the 00’s.
Still, it’s a bit odd. The whole “X when somewhere vs. X when Japan”-meme is not that new. It’s been on 4chan for probably over a decade now, because it was kinda fitting when it came to weeaboos. But it’s just lately that I seemingly see it everywhere in the broader space, from Twitter to Reddit, from Youtube to TikTok. It’s like – you can’t be a single bit positive towards japanese culture anymore, you constantly get hit with “BUT DID YOU KNOW JAPAN HAS RAPE TRAINS?” “DID YOU KNOW JAPAN WAS THE BAD GUYS IN WW2?” “DID YOU KNOW JAPAN IS NOT PERFECT AS A COUNTRY?”. It’s odd. Like no shit, there are bad things about cultures and countries, there is no perfect country or culture.
What they were doing was in the name of discovering the secret to human cat genetic hybridization and I will not be convinced they were not close.
People really need to differentiate between Modern Japanese people and Imperial Japan. My country was one of the many that got devasted by Imperial Japan and it had horrific events that’s comparable to what they did to China, I also believe that both nukes were deserved and necessary, but I wouldn’t blame the modern Japanese people for that, the only thing that they should be criticized about them though is that their government aren’t acknowledging it making the populace think they’re just victims during the war
people dont react like this often enough, the japanese were on par with the nazis if not worse and didnt have any consequences like the germans did (after 2 atomic bombs of course)