Ugh. What do you mean I can’t sum up multiple civilisations and people in a single sentence.
People are monoliths right?
TheSauceeBoss on
This just in: Pre-Colombian Civilizations were human beings just like you and me! They were capable of good and evil just like any human being! They were neither saints nor devils! More at 8!
Edothebirbperson on
You’re telling me HISTORY ISN’t BLACK AND WHITE?! I AM SHOCKED ABOUT THIS REVELATION!
/s just incase
Level_Hour6480 on
Aztecs: the worst.
Inca: Pretty good.
TeaAndCrumpetGhoul on
Yeah, what about those who the question, “where is Charles Lee?”
SatoruGojo232 on
Gasp.. a community of human beings are beyond the space of just being labelled as purely good or purely evil? Who would have thought this /s
GreenKnight535 on
Historical nuance in my r/HistoryMemes? Get outta here.
In all seriousness, I 100% agree. First Peoples’ civilizations were just as creative and flawed as those of Eurasia, but those flaws do not excuse or justify colonialism, imperialism, and genocide.
HistorianEntire311 on
This would greatly anger Latin American left-wing and right-wing politicians if they knew how to read English
Sanguine_Caesar on
Also, and I can’t believe this has to be said, civilizations don’t have to be saintly in order to not be deserving of genocide and colonization.
TBTabby on
What’s important is that you found a way to feel smugly superior to both of them.
InsideHousing4965 on
They were pretty brutal, terrible, and inhumane. But this was more like the ruling class. Most natives had nothing to do with sacrifices and warfare.
Did the ruling class deserve to be wiped out from the face of the earth? Maybe. But, as usual, they got a pass while innocent civilians were massacred.
With “getting a pass,” I mean that the spanish empire made most of them nobles to make sure they kept oppressing the lowerclasses for profit.
LusciousTheBreeder on
Thank you, I am so sick of being shamed by both sides when I both pointed out the good and bad. Different cultures of a different time people. Yeah I don’t support what they did but I also don’t support them getting exterminated.
Adventurous-Body9134 on
Both justify the killing of natives
Roadhouse699 on
Both are incorrect, but one is much worse than the other.
DerGovernator on
Shitty people are a sadly universal part of the human race.
Gold_Size_1258 on
The Spanish didn’t want to anihilate the indigenous people, but to seize power over them. But then European plagues happened.
herpderpfuck on
Why can’t I hate human sacrifice to the gods, and human sacrifice to silver mines?
thisistherevolt on
Meanwhile the Pueblo people: Please just leave us alone.
ChampionshipShort341 on
Humans when the humans are being humans
bloodredcookie on
Insane how many people unironically believe one of these two things.
heilhortler420 on
All im saying is, there’s a reason a lot of them flipped to side with the Spanish to fuck the Aztecs up
Uninterruptedindigo on
As an aspiring historian, I don’t like how sometimes the stereotype of the “Noble Savage” is applied to extra European populations, describing them always as victims of ruthless white people that are responsible of every crime in human history. Things should be more nuanced than that: basically no people or civilization to this day is innocent: slavery for example was present in most of them since the beginning, and so were others form of violence (war).
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Wall of texts make for bad memes.
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History didn’t ask to be defended like this
Ugh. What do you mean I can’t sum up multiple civilisations and people in a single sentence.
People are monoliths right?
This just in: Pre-Colombian Civilizations were human beings just like you and me! They were capable of good and evil just like any human being! They were neither saints nor devils! More at 8!
You’re telling me HISTORY ISN’t BLACK AND WHITE?! I AM SHOCKED ABOUT THIS REVELATION!
/s just incase
Aztecs: the worst.
Inca: Pretty good.
Yeah, what about those who the question, “where is Charles Lee?”
Gasp.. a community of human beings are beyond the space of just being labelled as purely good or purely evil? Who would have thought this /s
Historical nuance in my r/HistoryMemes? Get outta here.
In all seriousness, I 100% agree. First Peoples’ civilizations were just as creative and flawed as those of Eurasia, but those flaws do not excuse or justify colonialism, imperialism, and genocide.
This would greatly anger Latin American left-wing and right-wing politicians if they knew how to read English
Also, and I can’t believe this has to be said, civilizations don’t have to be saintly in order to not be deserving of genocide and colonization.
What’s important is that you found a way to feel smugly superior to both of them.
They were pretty brutal, terrible, and inhumane. But this was more like the ruling class. Most natives had nothing to do with sacrifices and warfare.
Did the ruling class deserve to be wiped out from the face of the earth? Maybe. But, as usual, they got a pass while innocent civilians were massacred.
With “getting a pass,” I mean that the spanish empire made most of them nobles to make sure they kept oppressing the lowerclasses for profit.
Thank you, I am so sick of being shamed by both sides when I both pointed out the good and bad. Different cultures of a different time people. Yeah I don’t support what they did but I also don’t support them getting exterminated.
Both justify the killing of natives
Both are incorrect, but one is much worse than the other.
Shitty people are a sadly universal part of the human race.
The Spanish didn’t want to anihilate the indigenous people, but to seize power over them. But then European plagues happened.
Why can’t I hate human sacrifice to the gods, and human sacrifice to silver mines?
Meanwhile the Pueblo people: Please just leave us alone.
Humans when the humans are being humans
Insane how many people unironically believe one of these two things.
All im saying is, there’s a reason a lot of them flipped to side with the Spanish to fuck the Aztecs up
As an aspiring historian, I don’t like how sometimes the stereotype of the “Noble Savage” is applied to extra European populations, describing them always as victims of ruthless white people that are responsible of every crime in human history. Things should be more nuanced than that: basically no people or civilization to this day is innocent: slavery for example was present in most of them since the beginning, and so were others form of violence (war).
Peter: Hmm, yes. Shallow and pedantic.