There needs to be an understanding of the historical zeitgeist when discussing crimes.
Morality is relative and it changes and evolves across cultures and time.
What is unacceptable today was commonplace a few centuries ago (or even decades ago).
revealedbyai on
Apparently the statute of limitations on atrocities expires after 500 years. If you conquered people before 1500, it’s just Sparkling Expansion
Specialist-Fail8539 on
Yeah, and there will always be people who will say “But what about the USA”
Wiggle_Hata6 on
It’s literally the reverse lmao especially on this sub cuz of the Anglo groypers
DeoDatusIV on
USSR did some funsies
A--Creative-Username on
Who is pretending the Soviets did nothing wrong
Imjokin on
Hmm, so it’s okay as long as the flag has a big red background?
Right-Aspect2945 on
Seriously? There’s 3 Holodomor memes on this sub a week, and that’s on a slow week. And you can barely swing a fez without hitting a “we must save Constantinople” or “thank God for the winged hussars” meme.
Blade_Shot24 on
I’ve never been a fan of Roman glazing let alone the Soviets. Though the way folks make memes I can see why this was made
MarkHamillsrightnut on
What about the Russian Empire from 16th century on?
AssociateWeak8857 on
Lol what, no country on this sub receives as much hate as the Soviet Union, and turks are probably second. Your meme is just bad
TheHistoryMaster2520 on
The Ottomans are very well-hated in this sub, and don’t forget that they existed until relatively recently, the Armenian Genocide occurred in 1915
ClassyKebabKing64 on
Because this sub is known for Armenian genocide./s
Ok-Dragonknight-5788 on
What alternate timeline do you come from where the Soviets are excused? Maybe they aren’t labeled imperialists, but they are definitely given excessive amounts of shit for both percived and real issues.
Honestly the UK and the Soviets should swap places.
VNDeltole on
OP makes up strawman to make meme about
Leprechaun_lord on
I understand that the intention behind these kinds of memes are we need to be stricter about calling out certain empires, but they often come off as us being too strict about calling out modern empires.
democracy_lover66 on
“Why is the imperialism of ancient Rome not hated as much as the imperialism of Great Britain? 🤔”
Idk why didn’t you mention Sumerian war crimes? Are you pro Sumerian or something?
Sevastous-of-Caria on
Ussr doesnt get a pass especially post cold war propaganda and the red scare. France gets a pass. Japan gets a pass.
StandardCustard2874 on
I blamed the Byzantines. They trashed Italy hard in the Gothic wars, totally uncalled for, Justinian bro.
Space_Tracer on
I’ve seen far more ”spain was one of the GOOD colonialists, ackshyually” memes than ones calling them out. Though maybe it’s been changing lately, I couldn’t tell you, I’m speaking just from past experience.
CAS966 on
Don’t forget THE MONGOLS!
They literally have massive statues of Genghis even today and those go hard.
Delicious_Ad9844 on
I’ve seen so much iberian glaze and so much ottoman hatred, swap ’em round
OOOshafiqOOO003 on
Swap the Soviets with Spaniards, cuz old empires good, new empires le bad
SkyNet_Admin_1 on
Don’t get conquered
Ugo_foscolo on
Imagine posting in this sub thinking that the Soviet Union gets a pass whilst the US and UK aren’t regularly defended by the most fervent “um ackshually that wasn’t an act of rabid, immoral imperialism because *nuance*” takes.
Eryk123456789 on
Nah ppl mention holomodor or Armenian genocide here pretty often
gortlank on
This shit so boring. We gotta do this 10x a week? Who cares? Now a bunch of fucking freaks gonna have the same pointless ideological “debates” in the comments.
This topic is just karma farming at this point.
curiousisopod on
The fact the Japanese don’t even show up on the list is the most accurate part
bigsipo on
Rome is on the bottom, come on this is reddit
Texantioch on
Loool countries and societies that no longer exist vs existing ones. Wild that we differentiate the two
duchess_dagger on
Does anyone at all think the Roman Empire was morally good? except in comparison to other brutal ancient empires?
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There needs to be an understanding of the historical zeitgeist when discussing crimes.
Morality is relative and it changes and evolves across cultures and time.
What is unacceptable today was commonplace a few centuries ago (or even decades ago).
Apparently the statute of limitations on atrocities expires after 500 years. If you conquered people before 1500, it’s just Sparkling Expansion
Yeah, and there will always be people who will say “But what about the USA”
It’s literally the reverse lmao especially on this sub cuz of the Anglo groypers
USSR did some funsies
Who is pretending the Soviets did nothing wrong
Hmm, so it’s okay as long as the flag has a big red background?
Seriously? There’s 3 Holodomor memes on this sub a week, and that’s on a slow week. And you can barely swing a fez without hitting a “we must save Constantinople” or “thank God for the winged hussars” meme.
I’ve never been a fan of Roman glazing let alone the Soviets. Though the way folks make memes I can see why this was made
What about the Russian Empire from 16th century on?
Lol what, no country on this sub receives as much hate as the Soviet Union, and turks are probably second. Your meme is just bad
The Ottomans are very well-hated in this sub, and don’t forget that they existed until relatively recently, the Armenian Genocide occurred in 1915
Because this sub is known for Armenian genocide./s
What alternate timeline do you come from where the Soviets are excused? Maybe they aren’t labeled imperialists, but they are definitely given excessive amounts of shit for both percived and real issues.
Honestly the UK and the Soviets should swap places.
OP makes up strawman to make meme about
I understand that the intention behind these kinds of memes are we need to be stricter about calling out certain empires, but they often come off as us being too strict about calling out modern empires.
“Why is the imperialism of ancient Rome not hated as much as the imperialism of Great Britain? 🤔”
Idk why didn’t you mention Sumerian war crimes? Are you pro Sumerian or something?
Ussr doesnt get a pass especially post cold war propaganda and the red scare. France gets a pass. Japan gets a pass.
I blamed the Byzantines. They trashed Italy hard in the Gothic wars, totally uncalled for, Justinian bro.
I’ve seen far more ”spain was one of the GOOD colonialists, ackshyually” memes than ones calling them out. Though maybe it’s been changing lately, I couldn’t tell you, I’m speaking just from past experience.
Don’t forget THE MONGOLS!
They literally have massive statues of Genghis even today and those go hard.
I’ve seen so much iberian glaze and so much ottoman hatred, swap ’em round
Swap the Soviets with Spaniards, cuz old empires good, new empires le bad
Don’t get conquered
Imagine posting in this sub thinking that the Soviet Union gets a pass whilst the US and UK aren’t regularly defended by the most fervent “um ackshually that wasn’t an act of rabid, immoral imperialism because *nuance*” takes.
Nah ppl mention holomodor or Armenian genocide here pretty often
This shit so boring. We gotta do this 10x a week? Who cares? Now a bunch of fucking freaks gonna have the same pointless ideological “debates” in the comments.
This topic is just karma farming at this point.
The fact the Japanese don’t even show up on the list is the most accurate part
Rome is on the bottom, come on this is reddit
Loool countries and societies that no longer exist vs existing ones. Wild that we differentiate the two
Does anyone at all think the Roman Empire was morally good? except in comparison to other brutal ancient empires?