What the fuck? When I had permanent residency, before I did citizenship, I never carried my Green Card with me. If you lose it, getting a replacement is such an utter fuck on, that you would be a lunatic to take it with you, unless you absolutely needed it, such as showing an employer to validate it.
There is/was absolutely no suggestion that you were required to always have your Green Card on you. They are making this shit up as they go along.
MaxZorin1985 on
Men hiding their identity behind mask fine a US citizen for not carrying every form of identification on their person at all times. That’s trumps America for ya.
theghostsofvegas on
ICE can give tickets?
emergency_salad_fox on
How do they know who he is if he doesn’t have ID? Like how do they attribute a ticket to him? Can’t he just throw it away?
mike2ff on
And if you don’t pay the ticket, then you are now a criminal who can be deported.
3v1lkr0w on
I’d ask ICE for their papers…prove to me they aren’t here illegally.
00notmyrealname00 on
Listen y’all, be careful what you believe on the internet. I’ve seen the videos, and they are abhorrent. But, federal agents simply don’t issue civil infraction citations. Certainly not for the tune of $130 – That’s kitty litter compared to federal civil penalty amounts.
I encourage anyone with an opposing viewpoint to provide me the CFR or USC that supports $130 citation and the responsibility for anyone receiving one.
In the meantime, stop getting spun up about stupid shit like this and get spun up about the things that really matter: The progressive degradation of our individual freedoms and human rights.
Original-Handle-178 on
Literally everything conservatives hated during covid has now come to bite them in the ass and they’re okay with it. Didn’t like masks during covid, they love men using masks. Didn’t like carrying documents showing they were vaccinated, they want people to have their papers with them to show they’re here legally.
kloud77 on
I’m a white, 6th generation American and disabled veteran. When I leave the house, I take my DL, Birth Cert, dd214, passport, VA ID and 2 pieces of mail no more than 90 days old to verify my address. I don’t expect it to help, but this is what Conservatives want, so this is the new normal.
GasRod68 on
I would wipe my ass with that. The geatapo’s made up charges wont hold up. Next they are going to say you cant cross state lines without permission.
LocalInactivist on
Yeah, but the requirement to carry your proof of citizenship or residency at all times or face arrest or a fine is for people who look like immigrants, so it’s ok. Requiring proof of Covid vaccination inconveniences **me** so it’s a crime against humanity. /s
Please note the sarcasm tag. Please?
sidaemon on
Look, I absolutely am not in favor of what ICE is doing here but there is 100% a Federal Law requiring this man to have his identification papers on him at all times and he broke that law. I don’t like that I have to obey the speed limit either, but I also understand when I make the choice not to obey it and I get a ticket, I had it coming and I don’t try and make it a social issue by saying anyone was out to get me.
There are a ton of things I’ll say I’m absolutely furious with ICE over, but this isn’t one of them. Masks while policing? Should be a felony in my opinion. The excessive force being used to arrest and detain people? Also should be a felony and these men should go to prison for that.
Every single one of us on the left needs to look at ourselves in the mirror and own our part in this. We have had chances to address immigration issues but they were hard and they were unpopular and our leaders elected to ignore our laws in favor of doing what they believed was right and we allowed that to happen and now we’re at where we’re at.
G-Unit11111 on
2025 America is 1939 Germany but with hats.
AGuyWhoBrokeBad on
The goal is to make it so all immigrants think twice before coming to the USA. Honestly, they probably should at this point. We don’t follow immigration laws anymore and can send you to an El Salvador prison on a whim.
FitAdministration383 on
If enough people get these “tickets” and show up to court, this will cause mayhem and maybe, just maybe, get this shit shut down.
hippiedawg on
The fact that Trump the raper and other powerful ppl want to bury the Epstein files so much, says it is SO much way worse than anyone can imagine.
One thing you gotta give pedophiles is they drive slow through school zones.
Oh yeah, here are all of the Epstein Files that have either been leaked or released.
Trump’s name is circled. The circled individuals are the ones involved in the trafficking ring according to the person who originally released the book. These people would be “The List “ Here is the story.
Canadian here. Serious question. What papers are you required to carry and provide if asked? You mean you can’t walk to the park with empty pockets? What happens if you refuse to pay the ticket?
Traditional-Share-82 on
Papers please
Working-Swan-9944 on
Freedumb
MagicGrit on
Papers, please
Artist_Kevin on
** The Pinocchio Act ** A concept to consider
!!! End The Speech and Debate Clause & Citizens United !!! CALLING OUT THE GOP HYPOCRISY !!!
**To:** ALL Public Representatives & Officials
**From:** Concerned American voters
**A Proposal to Introduce “The Pinocchio Act” in the House of Representatives**
**Purpose:** This bill seeks to uphold truth, integrity, and accountability among all individuals serving in public positions—whether elected, appointed, hired, or volunteering—by making it unlawful and punishable for such individuals to willfully and deliberately lie, deceive, misrepresent, or bear false witness to the American people.
**Moral Foundation:** The act of lying has been condemned throughout history, both morally and spiritually. Within the Ten Commandments, the prohibition against “bearing false witness” stands as a timeless moral pillar, one that has deeply influenced the laws and values of our nation. In the Christian faith, lying is regarded not merely as a mistake, but as a mortal sin—a corruption of trust that erodes relationships, communities, and governance itself. When a public servant lies, the injury is compounded, because the trust of the people is betrayed. Trust is the cornerstone of democratic government, and once broken, it undermines the very legitimacy of our institutions. This bill, grounded in both the enduring moral wisdom of the Ten Commandments and the fundamental American principle of honesty in public life, will make truth-telling a clear legal requirement for those entrusted with public authority.
**Provisions of the Bill**
* **Scope of Applicability:** Applies to all public employees, federal and state, including elected officials, appointed officials, hired staff, and volunteers.
* **Unlawful Acts:** It shall be unlawful for any covered individual to willfully and deliberately: (1) Lie to the public. (2) Misrepresent facts. (3) Deceive through omission or distortion. (4) Bear false witness against any individual or entity while acting in their public capacity.
* **Penalties:** First Offense → Misdemeanor charge, fine of not less than $10,000, and mandatory public correction of the falsehood. Blatant and Easily Debunked Lies → Immediate removal from office or employment, fine of not less than $50,000. Repeat Offenders → Escalation to felony charge, fines up to $250,000, permanent disqualification from public service, and potential prison sentence of up to 2 years.
* **Enforcement Mechanism:** Oversight body or inspector general designated at both federal and state levels. Public reporting system for false statements, with expedited review for cases of blatant or obvious falsehoods.
**Justification**
* *Moral:* Lies corrupt the soul of a nation. As Scripture warns, “lying lips are an abomination to the Lord” (Proverbs 12:22). Public servants must be held to the highest moral standard.
* *Civic:* A democracy cannot function when its people cannot trust their leaders. Truth is essential to informed consent of the governed.
* *Practical:* In an age of instant communication, falsehoods spread rapidly and cause great harm. Strong deterrents are necessary to protect the public from deliberate misinformation.
**Conclusion:** The Pinocchio Act would reaffirm the moral and civic necessity of truth in public service. By holding public servants accountable to the timeless commandment against lying, Congress can restore faith in government, strengthen democracy, and protect the American people from willful deception.
*I respectfully urge you to sponsor and introduce this legislation in the House of Representatives.*
Signed, Americans
—
**Draft Bill**
**118th CONGRESS — 2d Session — H. R. ____**
**To establish criminal and civil penalties for public employees who willfully and deliberately deceive the public, and for other purposes.**
**IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES**
[Date] — [Member of Congress Name] introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on [Committee Name].
**A BILL**
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
**SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.** This Act may be cited as the “Pinocchio Act.”
**SEC. 2. FINDINGS.** Congress finds that— (1) The moral law, as expressed in the Ten Commandments, forbids bearing false witness; (2) In the Christian faith and in other traditions rooted in Scripture, lying is regarded as a mortal sin; (3) The United States, though pluralistic, has drawn much of its civic foundation from Judeo-Christian moral principles; (4) Public servants have a moral and civic duty to speak the truth; (5) Scripture warns that “lying lips are an abomination to the Lord” (Proverbs 12:22), and Christ affirms that “the truth shall make you free” (John 8:32); (6) Therefore, deliberate deception by public officials is not only a breach of civic trust but also a violation of moral law.
**SEC. 3. DEFINITIONS.** (1) “Public employee” means any individual serving at the federal, state, or local level, including elected officials, appointed officials, employees, contractors, and volunteers acting in an official capacity. (2) “False statement” means any knowingly willful, deliberate, and material misrepresentation of fact, including omissions intended to deceive, whether spoken, written, or digital. (3) “Blatant falsehood” means a statement that is demonstrably false, easily verifiable, and made without reasonable basis.
**SEC. 4. PROHIBITION ON FALSE STATEMENTS.** It shall be unlawful for any public employee to: (1) knowingly and deliberately make a false statement to the public in the course of official duties; (2) misrepresent, distort, or omit material facts with the intent to deceive; or (3) bear false witness in an official capacity against any individual or entity.
**SEC. 5. PENALTIES.** (1) First offense → misdemeanor, fine of not less than $10,000, and public correction within 30 days. (2) Blatant or easily debunked lies → immediate removal from office or employment and fine of not less than $50,000. (3) Repeat offenses → felony, fine up to $250,000, permanent bar from public office or employment, and imprisonment for up to 2 years.
**SEC. 6. ENFORCEMENT.** (1) The Attorney General shall establish an Office of Public Integrity to review violations. (2) States may establish parallel enforcement mechanisms. (3) Any member of the public may submit a complaint for review.
**SEC. 7. SEVERABILITY.** If any provision of this Act or its application is held invalid, the remainder shall not be affected.
**SEC. 8. EFFECTIVE DATE.** This Act shall take effect 90 days after enactment.
roopjm81 on
Wtf papers do they even want
OnlyFiveLives on
**VERE AHR YOUR PAPAHS**
PhysicalGraffiti75 on
Papers please.
Misformisfortune on
That’s Nazi bullshit. Abolish Ice gestapo.
Fickle-Molasses-903 on
The majority of white voters on November 5th, 2024, expressed their satisfaction: ‘We are thrilled! This is exactly what we wanted. It’s ironic that some chose not to vote and then protested afterward. Our main focus is on the cruelty towards LGBTQ individuals and non-white people, and we value the promises that have been made and kept. We’re only nine months in, with at least three more years ahead, so it’s time to accept this reality!’
*Of those who participated in the election, 60% of white men and 53% of white women backed a racist, fascist, sexist pedophile.*
SMH
--slurpy-- on
Burn it. What are they gonna do about it?
Dizzy-Garbage4066 on
Let’s not forget that there are MANY reports of citizens and legal residents getting stopped by ICE, presenting their papers, then ICE releasing the people hours or days later, but not giving back their papers!
35 Comments
We need Jeff Foxworthy jokes…
If you ticket legal residents for walking without papers… you might be a fascist.
My conservative coworkers are all for this.
They also say being ticketed for not wearing your seatbelt is tyranny.
*Your papers, please.*
https://preview.redd.it/4jk5cqj4yhvf1.jpeg?width=250&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=65ad3fbd5dad590ef8b29abd04c1cb1db27448d8
What the fuck? When I had permanent residency, before I did citizenship, I never carried my Green Card with me. If you lose it, getting a replacement is such an utter fuck on, that you would be a lunatic to take it with you, unless you absolutely needed it, such as showing an employer to validate it.
There is/was absolutely no suggestion that you were required to always have your Green Card on you. They are making this shit up as they go along.
Men hiding their identity behind mask fine a US citizen for not carrying every form of identification on their person at all times. That’s trumps America for ya.
ICE can give tickets?
How do they know who he is if he doesn’t have ID? Like how do they attribute a ticket to him? Can’t he just throw it away?
And if you don’t pay the ticket, then you are now a criminal who can be deported.
I’d ask ICE for their papers…prove to me they aren’t here illegally.
Listen y’all, be careful what you believe on the internet. I’ve seen the videos, and they are abhorrent. But, federal agents simply don’t issue civil infraction citations. Certainly not for the tune of $130 – That’s kitty litter compared to federal civil penalty amounts.
I encourage anyone with an opposing viewpoint to provide me the CFR or USC that supports $130 citation and the responsibility for anyone receiving one.
In the meantime, stop getting spun up about stupid shit like this and get spun up about the things that really matter: The progressive degradation of our individual freedoms and human rights.
Literally everything conservatives hated during covid has now come to bite them in the ass and they’re okay with it. Didn’t like masks during covid, they love men using masks. Didn’t like carrying documents showing they were vaccinated, they want people to have their papers with them to show they’re here legally.
I’m a white, 6th generation American and disabled veteran. When I leave the house, I take my DL, Birth Cert, dd214, passport, VA ID and 2 pieces of mail no more than 90 days old to verify my address. I don’t expect it to help, but this is what Conservatives want, so this is the new normal.
I would wipe my ass with that. The geatapo’s made up charges wont hold up. Next they are going to say you cant cross state lines without permission.
Yeah, but the requirement to carry your proof of citizenship or residency at all times or face arrest or a fine is for people who look like immigrants, so it’s ok. Requiring proof of Covid vaccination inconveniences **me** so it’s a crime against humanity. /s
Please note the sarcasm tag. Please?
Look, I absolutely am not in favor of what ICE is doing here but there is 100% a Federal Law requiring this man to have his identification papers on him at all times and he broke that law. I don’t like that I have to obey the speed limit either, but I also understand when I make the choice not to obey it and I get a ticket, I had it coming and I don’t try and make it a social issue by saying anyone was out to get me.
There are a ton of things I’ll say I’m absolutely furious with ICE over, but this isn’t one of them. Masks while policing? Should be a felony in my opinion. The excessive force being used to arrest and detain people? Also should be a felony and these men should go to prison for that.
Every single one of us on the left needs to look at ourselves in the mirror and own our part in this. We have had chances to address immigration issues but they were hard and they were unpopular and our leaders elected to ignore our laws in favor of doing what they believed was right and we allowed that to happen and now we’re at where we’re at.
2025 America is 1939 Germany but with hats.
The goal is to make it so all immigrants think twice before coming to the USA. Honestly, they probably should at this point. We don’t follow immigration laws anymore and can send you to an El Salvador prison on a whim.
If enough people get these “tickets” and show up to court, this will cause mayhem and maybe, just maybe, get this shit shut down.
The fact that Trump the raper and other powerful ppl want to bury the Epstein files so much, says it is SO much way worse than anyone can imagine.
One thing you gotta give pedophiles is they drive slow through school zones.
Oh yeah, here are all of the Epstein Files that have either been leaked or released.
https://joshwho.net/EpsteinList/gov.uscourts.nysd.447706.1320.0-combined.pdf (verified court documents)
https://joshwho.net/EpsteinList/black-book-unredacted.pdf (verified pre-Bondi) Trump is on page 85, or pdf pg. 80
Trump’s name is circled. The circled individuals are the ones involved in the trafficking ring according to the person who originally released the book. These people would be “The List “ Here is the story.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsiKUXrlcac
Here’s the flight logs https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21165424-epstein-flight-logs-released-in-usa-vs-maxwell/
—————————other Epstein Information
https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Johnson_TrumpEpstein_Calif_Lawsuit.pdf here’s a court doc of Epstein and Trump raping a 13 yr old together.
Some people think this claim is a hoax. Here is Katies testimony on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnib-OORRRo
Epstein pleads the 5th when asked if he has ever “socialized” with underage girls in the presence of Trump.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/2mpTy2cYDpA
Epstein Docs:
https://ia600705.us.archive.org/21/items/epsteindocs/
Epstein Bribes/Payments: 1 BILLION+
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7IrEi-ybzs
—————————other Trump information:
FBI coverup to remove Trumps name from the Epstein list
https://www.muellershewrote.com/p/the-epstein-cover-up-at-the-fbi
Trump admitting to peeping on 14-15 year old girls at around 1:40 on the Howard Stern Radio Show: https://youtu.be/iFaQL_kv_QY?si=vBs75kaxPjJJThka
Trump’s promise to his daughter: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-ivanka-trump-dating-promise_n_57ee98cbe4b024a52d2ead02 “I have a deal with her. She’s 17 and doing great ― Ivanka. She made me promise, swear to her that I would never date a girl younger than her”
Trump rapes 13yr old girl: NY court docs –
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/4524664/doe-v-trump/
Trump’s modeling agency was probably part of Jeffreys pipeline: https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/08/donald-trump-model-management-illegal-immigration/
Trump-Epstein timeline: https://thepresidential.medium.com/we-have-been-gaslit-about-donald-trump-and-jeffrey-epstein-for-four-years-fbda67c20f75
* Most of this info can also be found:
https://theepsteindocs.com/
Feel free to do your part and spread this info around so it’s never “lost” or “deleted”.
“Papers?”
Papers, papers!!! Hrmmmm, seems vaguely familiar. /s
When it’s no longer a democracy.
Canadian here. Serious question. What papers are you required to carry and provide if asked? You mean you can’t walk to the park with empty pockets? What happens if you refuse to pay the ticket?
Papers please
Freedumb
Papers, please
** The Pinocchio Act ** A concept to consider
!!! End The Speech and Debate Clause & Citizens United !!! CALLING OUT THE GOP HYPOCRISY !!!
**To:** ALL Public Representatives & Officials
**From:** Concerned American voters
**A Proposal to Introduce “The Pinocchio Act” in the House of Representatives**
**Purpose:** This bill seeks to uphold truth, integrity, and accountability among all individuals serving in public positions—whether elected, appointed, hired, or volunteering—by making it unlawful and punishable for such individuals to willfully and deliberately lie, deceive, misrepresent, or bear false witness to the American people.
**Moral Foundation:** The act of lying has been condemned throughout history, both morally and spiritually. Within the Ten Commandments, the prohibition against “bearing false witness” stands as a timeless moral pillar, one that has deeply influenced the laws and values of our nation. In the Christian faith, lying is regarded not merely as a mistake, but as a mortal sin—a corruption of trust that erodes relationships, communities, and governance itself. When a public servant lies, the injury is compounded, because the trust of the people is betrayed. Trust is the cornerstone of democratic government, and once broken, it undermines the very legitimacy of our institutions. This bill, grounded in both the enduring moral wisdom of the Ten Commandments and the fundamental American principle of honesty in public life, will make truth-telling a clear legal requirement for those entrusted with public authority.
**Provisions of the Bill**
* **Scope of Applicability:** Applies to all public employees, federal and state, including elected officials, appointed officials, hired staff, and volunteers.
* **Unlawful Acts:** It shall be unlawful for any covered individual to willfully and deliberately: (1) Lie to the public. (2) Misrepresent facts. (3) Deceive through omission or distortion. (4) Bear false witness against any individual or entity while acting in their public capacity.
* **Penalties:** First Offense → Misdemeanor charge, fine of not less than $10,000, and mandatory public correction of the falsehood. Blatant and Easily Debunked Lies → Immediate removal from office or employment, fine of not less than $50,000. Repeat Offenders → Escalation to felony charge, fines up to $250,000, permanent disqualification from public service, and potential prison sentence of up to 2 years.
* **Enforcement Mechanism:** Oversight body or inspector general designated at both federal and state levels. Public reporting system for false statements, with expedited review for cases of blatant or obvious falsehoods.
**Justification**
* *Moral:* Lies corrupt the soul of a nation. As Scripture warns, “lying lips are an abomination to the Lord” (Proverbs 12:22). Public servants must be held to the highest moral standard.
* *Civic:* A democracy cannot function when its people cannot trust their leaders. Truth is essential to informed consent of the governed.
* *Practical:* In an age of instant communication, falsehoods spread rapidly and cause great harm. Strong deterrents are necessary to protect the public from deliberate misinformation.
**Conclusion:** The Pinocchio Act would reaffirm the moral and civic necessity of truth in public service. By holding public servants accountable to the timeless commandment against lying, Congress can restore faith in government, strengthen democracy, and protect the American people from willful deception.
*I respectfully urge you to sponsor and introduce this legislation in the House of Representatives.*
Signed, Americans
—
**Draft Bill**
**118th CONGRESS — 2d Session — H. R. ____**
**To establish criminal and civil penalties for public employees who willfully and deliberately deceive the public, and for other purposes.**
**IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES**
[Date] — [Member of Congress Name] introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on [Committee Name].
**A BILL**
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
**SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.** This Act may be cited as the “Pinocchio Act.”
**SEC. 2. FINDINGS.** Congress finds that— (1) The moral law, as expressed in the Ten Commandments, forbids bearing false witness; (2) In the Christian faith and in other traditions rooted in Scripture, lying is regarded as a mortal sin; (3) The United States, though pluralistic, has drawn much of its civic foundation from Judeo-Christian moral principles; (4) Public servants have a moral and civic duty to speak the truth; (5) Scripture warns that “lying lips are an abomination to the Lord” (Proverbs 12:22), and Christ affirms that “the truth shall make you free” (John 8:32); (6) Therefore, deliberate deception by public officials is not only a breach of civic trust but also a violation of moral law.
**SEC. 3. DEFINITIONS.** (1) “Public employee” means any individual serving at the federal, state, or local level, including elected officials, appointed officials, employees, contractors, and volunteers acting in an official capacity. (2) “False statement” means any knowingly willful, deliberate, and material misrepresentation of fact, including omissions intended to deceive, whether spoken, written, or digital. (3) “Blatant falsehood” means a statement that is demonstrably false, easily verifiable, and made without reasonable basis.
**SEC. 4. PROHIBITION ON FALSE STATEMENTS.** It shall be unlawful for any public employee to: (1) knowingly and deliberately make a false statement to the public in the course of official duties; (2) misrepresent, distort, or omit material facts with the intent to deceive; or (3) bear false witness in an official capacity against any individual or entity.
**SEC. 5. PENALTIES.** (1) First offense → misdemeanor, fine of not less than $10,000, and public correction within 30 days. (2) Blatant or easily debunked lies → immediate removal from office or employment and fine of not less than $50,000. (3) Repeat offenses → felony, fine up to $250,000, permanent bar from public office or employment, and imprisonment for up to 2 years.
**SEC. 6. ENFORCEMENT.** (1) The Attorney General shall establish an Office of Public Integrity to review violations. (2) States may establish parallel enforcement mechanisms. (3) Any member of the public may submit a complaint for review.
**SEC. 7. SEVERABILITY.** If any provision of this Act or its application is held invalid, the remainder shall not be affected.
**SEC. 8. EFFECTIVE DATE.** This Act shall take effect 90 days after enactment.
Wtf papers do they even want
**VERE AHR YOUR PAPAHS**
Papers please.
That’s Nazi bullshit. Abolish Ice gestapo.
The majority of white voters on November 5th, 2024, expressed their satisfaction: ‘We are thrilled! This is exactly what we wanted. It’s ironic that some chose not to vote and then protested afterward. Our main focus is on the cruelty towards LGBTQ individuals and non-white people, and we value the promises that have been made and kept. We’re only nine months in, with at least three more years ahead, so it’s time to accept this reality!’
*Of those who participated in the election, 60% of white men and 53% of white women backed a racist, fascist, sexist pedophile.*
SMH
Burn it. What are they gonna do about it?
Let’s not forget that there are MANY reports of citizens and legal residents getting stopped by ICE, presenting their papers, then ICE releasing the people hours or days later, but not giving back their papers!
Tear it up!