The good old UN keeping the peace

    by Plebius_Minimus

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    1. memerij-inspecteur on

      I find the UNinvolved very inaccurate, they are involved, they just dont do anything.

    2. afatcatfromsweden on

      Tbf the UN forces would have not survived a serious battle. However, this doesn’t make their inaction any more palatable.

    3. chewbaccawastrainedb on

      >Chinese UN peacekeepers in the capital Juba, South Sudan, abandoned their posts entirely at one civilian protection site where tens of thousands had sought safety from successive bouts of fighting.
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      >Civilians died inside and outside the UN bases and hundreds possibly thousands of women were raped, including many within view of UN bases.
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      >On the last day of the fighting, about 80 to 100 government soldiers attacked a compound in Juba where they raped and gang-raped at least five international aid workers and physically or sexually assaulted at least a dozen others.

      In 2023, some 332 Chinese peacekeepers, including 16 women, have received the prestigious UN medal for their service to the cause of durable peace in South Sudan.

      Yeah…..

    4. was the Suez Crisis genuinely the very last time UN peacekeepers made a material difference?

    5. UN when it comes to the Rwanda genocide (and other catastrophes): A mimir

      UN when it comes to fight against NK (totally not used to defend USA’s interests): REAL SHIT

    6. Meh.

      First: 100 days is FAR too short a time to put together any sort of international response. The US could have acted on its own, but after Mogadishu they weren’t about to get involved on the ground in Africa and no one else in the UN remotely had the ability to mount an effective intervention in the time before the genocide burned itself out.

      Second: the UN forces in Rwanda at the time in 1994 was just 2500 strong, led by Canadians, and majority Belgian and Indian in composition. It had almost no equipment heavier than machine guns and APCs, and was basically armed well-enough to get itself into a fight, but not well-armed or large enough to get itself out of that fight.

      Third: even a force 5-10 times the size and armed with heavy equipment wouldn’t have been in any position to stop the genocide or to both safeguard and provide for large numbers of refugees. They could have walled off and held an escape corridor if someone was prepared to take in refugees, but that wasn’t an option.

      Rwanda was a product of the international community as a whole knowing what was going on, deciding no one could do anything, and so no one even tried. It wasn’t a failure of the UN.

    7. TheDarkLordScaryman on

      That’s why whenever anything comes up with the UN my dad jokes that they will send in the guys with the little blue helmets

    8. HistorianEntire311 on

      And the worst thing is that, together with the United States being the global police, they are what more or less keeps the world at peace.

    9. It’s much worse, the UN had warning.

      There is a grim but good book regarding it, called, [“Shake Hands With the Devil”](https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/215758.Shake_Hands_with_the_Devil), by Lt. General Roméo Dallaire regarding the build up to it.

      He begged, pleaded, DEMANDED help, more force and more support before it happened as he was present saw how the wind was blowing.

      The UN dawdled and did nothing substantial, either ignoring or downplaying his concerns and demands.

      It broke him. He contemplated suicide afterwards.

      I will warn you, it’s a…tough read at times. He doesn’t shrink from anything and lays it all out

      If you’re interested in the topic there is no better source or recount of it, in my opinion.

    10. When will Americans (I assume) learn the difference between genitive and plural??

      I keep seeing this *everywhere*. It’s Tutsis. Not Tutsi’s.

    11. Appropriate_Rent_243 on

      you gotta be fucking dedicated to commit genocide with sticks and razors, wtf

    12. Grandkahoona01 on

      Sadly the UN is largely a failure. It had no actual power and no real enforcement mechanism.

    13. “Hey guys, what does my global peacekeeping force have no credibility??”

      The peacekeepers:

    14. Expensive-Storage-76 on

      Thats why ultimately the NATO intervened in Yugoslavia instead of the UN. Look also up ‘Operation Bøllebank’ where heavily armed Danish troops (with tanks) returned fire on Serbian position. They received flak from UN leadership that they returned fire and the UN leadership was already sceptic from the beginning that the Danish troops brought *tanks* and heavy weapons.

    15. Shady_Merchant1 on

      The French and catholic church were complicit in the genocide which is a large part of why nothing was done

    16. Bold and wrong statement:

      Peace never solves anything

      It simply gives you time for the next opportunity

    17. Remember Kofi Annan was the main UN official responsible for handling this and later oversaw Bosnia with the same outcome likely. Only thing different here was Tony Blair managed to convince Bill Clinton to have an actually military intervention to stop the murders.

    18. CanadianRoyalist on

      The problem the UN has is that it attempts to imitate the order the British Empire imposed on the undeveloped world, but with none of the strength or resolve needed to back it up.

      When the British wanted to end slavery, we sent in the Royal Navy and ended it a gun point. Then we left in the name of “decolonisation” and it started up again.

      Now the UN wants to end it… so they send strongly worded letters.

    19. swainiscadianreborn on

      People when the UN acts as an internationale forum: “Why aren’t you doing more?”

      People when the UN does more: “THE UN SHOULDN’T ACT AS A GLOBAL GOVERNMENT! WORLD POLICE! REEEEEEE”

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