That is insane. This country is the most backward rich country there is. Billionaires are the only actual enemy of the people.
Full_Gear5185 on
Fuckin grand a month for insurance, and these peckerhead americans will still be like: “whatever at least we dont have to wait for a doctors appointment like your communist country”
porkchop2022 on
How much is that person dropping into their HSA? That’s the only difference I can legitimately spot.
They want to give health insurance to illegals, FOX told me so! /S
disingenuous shits all of them.
3v1lkr0w on
Didn’t Georgia vote for this?
Pattihere on
The United States lags behind other developed nations in terms of health insurance. At this rate, no one will be able to afford the basic cost of living in the United States.
RackCitySanta on
i’d rather die (read: take care of myself as best i can) than have that sort of financial pressure on my life
Reg_Cliff on
But, but… ACA needs $33 billion next year to keep tax credits and lower premiums. Trump is giving Argentina $20 billion, and Israel $12 billion–latter even has universal healthcare. Plus, the less spent on ACA subsidies, the more billionaire tax breaks Republicans can hand out, and they fund GOP campaigns and their high life. I’m sure you can understand the Republican position: most Americans aren’t as important as rich ones. Plus, they’re just gonna rig the elections again so the votes don’t really matter.
TacoBear207 on
I don’t understand why insurance companies would want this. Insurance companies are just machines designed to make money. That’s really all any businesses. Insurance companies make money from people paying premiums more than they pay out in claims. There are only two ways I can see this being a winning strategy for them. One is if the millions of people who pay out of pocket for their insurance, largely people who are retired or financially limited, either have the money to pay significantly more out of pocket. The other, unfortunately more likely, is that so many people fall off the insurance that their claims paid out overcome the massive loss in premiums.
Realistically though, I think this would drive up health care costs for everyone and insurance companies still wouldn’t win out because hospital networks would close or have to charge more in order to stay afloat.
Bulky-Internal8579 on
As long as Apartheid Karen gets a trillion dollars, and dark skinned people suffer, it’s all worth it! – MAGA
histprofdave on
I’m in California so I think State subsidies will help slightly, but I’m still probably going to get reamed. I have a chronic condition and I need to start buying Silver tier insurance, but it might not even be worth it if the premiums are going to be triple what they were before. I might as well keep the high deductible Bronze plan and hope I don’t need an expensive procedure like I did this year.
ghsteo on
What’s the cost of penalty if you don’t have insurance, this point better to not just have insurance and go to the emergency room again. We’re back to where we were before Obamacare. Dumb fucking country.
tisseng on
That’s so messed up. I feel terribly for our countrymen
KindRoute6625 on
It’s the 4th quarter and most companies are working on annual benefits enrollment for the new year. Get ready for sticker shock and basically poor to no choices.
X-e-o on
I’ll be honest I thought that was yearly and figured “that’s brutal, a 300% increase is insane but ultimately I guess it’s a tolerable amount of money”.
Then I saw “monthly”. Holy crap.
CrimsonBuc on
If I’m understanding this correctly… $11,500 a year on insurance for a $65,000 income? Holy shit.
ImpressAgitated on
A retiree from my job said Blue Cross sent him a letter saying blue cross advantage will be no longer be a thing,premiums went up too ….he’s been retired for 12 years and came back to weld because he needs money…he is 69 yrs old.
Cautious_Maximum_870 on
My company just had a recent all company meeting and they talked to us about how all our insurance premiums are going up and not slightly. We’re in Tennessee. This sucks
DONALDJONSUPPLE on
Billionaires need more private jets and super yachts. Have you no decency, sir? Think of the billionaires!!
Blknyt_eclipsedmoon on
That graphic alone is the reason why Democrats need to hold firm. All the price increases since Trump took over are only hurting regular citizens. It’s unconscionable that the price increases that graphic could more than triple and Republicans think we should just sit there and take it along with the higher prices from tariffs.
Beekeeper50 on
Add in the fact that there will be no subsidy to offset this. So there are a lot of us that will go without.
RandyWatson8 on
Dems should just let it happen and make sure to run a campaign on why it is happening
DJSimmer305 on
I work in health insurance sales (I know, please direct your vitriol to my DMs). The amount of people I get on the phone who tell me they make very little income and/or have a laundry list of pre-existing conditions but “don’t want that Obamacrap” is astounding.
SorryNSorry on
Fucking crazy. One reason why there should be universal healthcare. This Georgian (and the rest of us) deserve to have the taxes we already pay cover 100% of our healthcare. Our taxes are good enough to pay for senators and representatives healthcare so it should be good enough to pay for ours.
Pitiful-MobileGamer on
A Canadian on Universal Health Care would pay $15,000 annually in tax and have all our social umbrella and full access to healthcare system.
Your annual premiums before deductibles and copay on that bronze plan look to be almost $12,000, that’s before your city and state deductions.
TruthSeekerHuey on
Stealing an extra $8k/yr from working ckass Americans just cuz
Crash30458 on
There are going to be a lot more Luigis
Gay_Giraffe_1773 on
At that point you just float free without insurance and pay with cash for everything. And if you have a catastrophic incident, you just declare bankruptcy or <redacted by Reddit>
EvoKov on
I would be screaming in the streets if this was me. Americans need to start doing so en masse, or else this regime is just going to keep taking and taking and taking.
Vraye_Foi on
Shit we are paying $734 each for a gold plan and we are in our early 50s. Husband and I are about to get hosed.
Solistaria on
It looks like the old plan was regular health insurance and the new one would be HSA health insurance. Every time I review my own options for health insurance the HSA plan premiums are always lower that the regular plan premiums. So if the new plan was also for regular health insurance the premiums would probably be even higher still.
Then when you factor in the fact that you have to spend your deductible on the HSA plan before it starts to cover anything. So $16,572 on the new plan including the deductible versus $3,686 for the old plan.
Ouch.
Ladydi-bds on
Mine will jump as a family plan from $771 to over $2000
BulletsForBreakfast on
I already couldn’t afford the $307.20 per month, guess I’ll just die.
lauramich74 on
I just learned that my employer-based insurance will go up by about $55/month. I’ll be paying $500/month to cover myself and my kiddo. Of course, not counting deductibles, copays, etc.
I would be *overjoyed* to pay that, and even a bit more, for a tax increase that would fund universal health care.
Health care that is not dependent on what your employer can (or is willing to) provide.
Health care where you don’t have to worry about whether a provider is “in network” or not, and then get blindsided by a 5-figure bill when the anesthesiologist for your surgery turns out to be “out of network.”
Health care that isn’t the leading cause of bankruptcy in the U.S.
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That is insane. This country is the most backward rich country there is. Billionaires are the only actual enemy of the people.
Fuckin grand a month for insurance, and these peckerhead americans will still be like: “whatever at least we dont have to wait for a doctors appointment like your communist country”
How much is that person dropping into their HSA? That’s the only difference I can legitimately spot.
https://preview.redd.it/rdvlnrj4jqsf1.jpeg?width=1164&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8d347ddaad6a5545b00b08219c41ae594fe317ec
FYI
Fake News!
They want to give health insurance to illegals, FOX told me so! /S
disingenuous shits all of them.
Didn’t Georgia vote for this?
The United States lags behind other developed nations in terms of health insurance. At this rate, no one will be able to afford the basic cost of living in the United States.
i’d rather die (read: take care of myself as best i can) than have that sort of financial pressure on my life
But, but… ACA needs $33 billion next year to keep tax credits and lower premiums. Trump is giving Argentina $20 billion, and Israel $12 billion–latter even has universal healthcare. Plus, the less spent on ACA subsidies, the more billionaire tax breaks Republicans can hand out, and they fund GOP campaigns and their high life. I’m sure you can understand the Republican position: most Americans aren’t as important as rich ones. Plus, they’re just gonna rig the elections again so the votes don’t really matter.
I don’t understand why insurance companies would want this. Insurance companies are just machines designed to make money. That’s really all any businesses. Insurance companies make money from people paying premiums more than they pay out in claims. There are only two ways I can see this being a winning strategy for them. One is if the millions of people who pay out of pocket for their insurance, largely people who are retired or financially limited, either have the money to pay significantly more out of pocket. The other, unfortunately more likely, is that so many people fall off the insurance that their claims paid out overcome the massive loss in premiums.
Realistically though, I think this would drive up health care costs for everyone and insurance companies still wouldn’t win out because hospital networks would close or have to charge more in order to stay afloat.
As long as Apartheid Karen gets a trillion dollars, and dark skinned people suffer, it’s all worth it! – MAGA
I’m in California so I think State subsidies will help slightly, but I’m still probably going to get reamed. I have a chronic condition and I need to start buying Silver tier insurance, but it might not even be worth it if the premiums are going to be triple what they were before. I might as well keep the high deductible Bronze plan and hope I don’t need an expensive procedure like I did this year.
What’s the cost of penalty if you don’t have insurance, this point better to not just have insurance and go to the emergency room again. We’re back to where we were before Obamacare. Dumb fucking country.
That’s so messed up. I feel terribly for our countrymen
It’s the 4th quarter and most companies are working on annual benefits enrollment for the new year. Get ready for sticker shock and basically poor to no choices.
I’ll be honest I thought that was yearly and figured “that’s brutal, a 300% increase is insane but ultimately I guess it’s a tolerable amount of money”.
Then I saw “monthly”. Holy crap.
If I’m understanding this correctly… $11,500 a year on insurance for a $65,000 income? Holy shit.
A retiree from my job said Blue Cross sent him a letter saying blue cross advantage will be no longer be a thing,premiums went up too ….he’s been retired for 12 years and came back to weld because he needs money…he is 69 yrs old.
My company just had a recent all company meeting and they talked to us about how all our insurance premiums are going up and not slightly. We’re in Tennessee. This sucks
Billionaires need more private jets and super yachts. Have you no decency, sir? Think of the billionaires!!
That graphic alone is the reason why Democrats need to hold firm. All the price increases since Trump took over are only hurting regular citizens. It’s unconscionable that the price increases that graphic could more than triple and Republicans think we should just sit there and take it along with the higher prices from tariffs.
Add in the fact that there will be no subsidy to offset this. So there are a lot of us that will go without.
Dems should just let it happen and make sure to run a campaign on why it is happening
I work in health insurance sales (I know, please direct your vitriol to my DMs). The amount of people I get on the phone who tell me they make very little income and/or have a laundry list of pre-existing conditions but “don’t want that Obamacrap” is astounding.
Fucking crazy. One reason why there should be universal healthcare. This Georgian (and the rest of us) deserve to have the taxes we already pay cover 100% of our healthcare. Our taxes are good enough to pay for senators and representatives healthcare so it should be good enough to pay for ours.
A Canadian on Universal Health Care would pay $15,000 annually in tax and have all our social umbrella and full access to healthcare system.
Your annual premiums before deductibles and copay on that bronze plan look to be almost $12,000, that’s before your city and state deductions.
Stealing an extra $8k/yr from working ckass Americans just cuz
There are going to be a lot more Luigis
At that point you just float free without insurance and pay with cash for everything. And if you have a catastrophic incident, you just declare bankruptcy or <redacted by Reddit>
I would be screaming in the streets if this was me. Americans need to start doing so en masse, or else this regime is just going to keep taking and taking and taking.
Shit we are paying $734 each for a gold plan and we are in our early 50s. Husband and I are about to get hosed.
It looks like the old plan was regular health insurance and the new one would be HSA health insurance. Every time I review my own options for health insurance the HSA plan premiums are always lower that the regular plan premiums. So if the new plan was also for regular health insurance the premiums would probably be even higher still.
Then when you factor in the fact that you have to spend your deductible on the HSA plan before it starts to cover anything. So $16,572 on the new plan including the deductible versus $3,686 for the old plan.
Ouch.
Mine will jump as a family plan from $771 to over $2000
I already couldn’t afford the $307.20 per month, guess I’ll just die.
I just learned that my employer-based insurance will go up by about $55/month. I’ll be paying $500/month to cover myself and my kiddo. Of course, not counting deductibles, copays, etc.
I would be *overjoyed* to pay that, and even a bit more, for a tax increase that would fund universal health care.
Health care that is not dependent on what your employer can (or is willing to) provide.
Health care where you don’t have to worry about whether a provider is “in network” or not, and then get blindsided by a 5-figure bill when the anesthesiologist for your surgery turns out to be “out of network.”
Health care that isn’t the leading cause of bankruptcy in the U.S.