Molotov-Ribbentrop pact goes brrr

    by Neil118781

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    1. BasedAustralhungary on

      There are two types of people who believe in the horseshoe theory in politics. One type understands it, the other type doesn’t understand it at all. Unfortunately, you are in the second group.

    2. I need a musical where a bunch of dictators and genocidaires get together at a Christmas dinner and talk about how much they love exterminating people.

    3. Frosty_Grab5914 on

      They did a joint parade after conquering Poland as well. It’s not like Soviets liked Nazi Germany, but in USSR you needed to turn your politics on a dime on Stalin’s orders.

    4. UK and France: “Yes yes, talk about Ribbentrop Molotov, continue, continue *(Go away before they see the Munich Treaty)*”

    5. Weak_Purpose_5699 on

      > “From China’s point of view, it was difficult to consider 1937, a year that brought the “rape of Nanking” by Japanese imperialism, with the massacre of 200,000 to 300,000 people, a period of peace. Far from sharing in the indignation of American Trotskyists (and Western Marxists in general), the Chinese Communist leader expressed satisfaction over the Non-Aggression Pact. It “constitutes a great blow to Japan and a great help to China” since it “will enable the Soviet Union to increase rather than decrease its aid to China” by freeing it for some time from the threat of the Third Reich and from the danger of fighting on two fronts, to support China’s “resistance to Japanese aggression.”39 The Chinese Communist leader was focused on the pro-slavery war of colonial subjection against his country unleashed by the Empire of the Rising Sun, a war largely ignored by Western Marxism.”

      Excerpt From

      Western Marxism

      Domenico Losurdo

    6. Upturned-Solo-Cup on

      In reality, it’s more like

      “We can be friends until I’m ready for war. After that, it gets… difficult.”

    7. The MR Pact was a pact of convinience and much less an actual alliance with defensive clauses. They both very much knew this pact wouldn’t last long and distrust was big even during the cooperation days, with massive amounts of troups being stationed along the borders.

      I myself would compare the MR Pact more to something like the Treaty of Tordesillas, where the world was divided into 2 spheres, but my knowledge on that Topic is not that big as to saying that with much confidence.

    8. Designated_Lurker_32 on

      The only real gripe Russians had with nazism is that it considered slavs subhuman (“wait a minute, *I’m* a slav”). If Hitler had slightly altered his ideology to rank slavs a few levels higher on his “racial hierarchy,” the USSR would have never been enemies with Nazi germany. It’s not like the Nazis would have cared about the fact that the Bolsheviks are communists. These people go by vibes. Words are immaterial.

    9. NOOOO YOU DONT GET IT

      THEY UHH

      THEY DIDNT REALLY LIKE EACHOTHER THO

      H-HA HA

      G-GOTEM

      This is what I’m reading in some of these comments, like ok, they didnt trust eachother, so does that change that they worked together to oppress the poles? They split that shit down the middle like they were brothers.

    10. In that case, what do you think about the non aggression pact Poland signed with the Nazis a couple years prior?

    11. Brilliant-Tip9445 on

      that’s why concentration camps in germany were filled with communists, because they were actually liked

    12. Historymemes posters wake up every day salivating over the idea that they can say something about the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact but will never, ever post about how Poland came to gain those territories east of the Curzon line.

    13. Me when I grossly oversimplify Eastern Europe Politics and Interwar Politics in general because I haven’t skimmed a goddamn wikipedia article.

    14. The way Western propagandists won’t stop riding this is just asinine. There’s shit signed with Nazis in just about every country and most of those were more than a decade or so out of a revolution and civil war.

    15. To be exact, Nazis and communists. Fascists are their own group entirely, I know there’s always the guy in the comments mentioning it but I gotta do it. Nazism grew out of Völkischm, which was essentially fully German ideology with practically nothing to do with fascism, that came from Sorel and Valois, from France nonetheless, and was then refined (and partially corrupted) in Italy and Spain.

    16. Also, in 1931 Stalin ordered the German communist party to help the Nazis gain power

      They compiled by then most if not all foreign communist parties were his puppets & they poses just as much hatred for moderates

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