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    Does anyone really think this matters in any way at this point?

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    1. agha0013 on

      it might, but thanks to the US court system it’ll likely be kicked around in court for a few more months before SCOTUS kills it.

    2. Halfwise2 on

      I wonder if a judge could say “The use of National Guard is illegal, and any further action will be treated as if performed by a private civilian.”

      AKA, any public response would be judged as if they were responding to whatever random Joe performed the action, instead of ‘The National Guard”.

    4. WordNERD37 on

      The fact you don’t means you’ve accepted the country has fallen. They won the battle with barely a issue if your reaction is first and foremost, it doesn’t matter.

    6. hammilithome on

      Will this kick off some big lawsuits against the fed for illegal arrests and searches and detainments?

    9. GadreelsSword on

      *“Judge has no one to enforce his decision. Trump laughs, News at 11.”*

      All joking aside, did you see the Philly DA said they’re considering arresting ICE employees and the National Guard for violating Philadelphia law? Then added they will be outside Trump’s authority to pardon them.

    10. JIFFFF624 on

      Yeah, it’s already done. It’s how he gets away with everything. Oh, I can’t do that? TOo LaTe.

    11. WistfulWanderings on

      Is assuming court orders don’t matter just another form of obeying in advance?

      Asking for a friend

    12. BenMullen2 on

      No . the SCOTUS already ruled that any act that is an “official act” can be done without recourse if by a president.

      its illegality is immaterial.

      The SCOTUS ruling made us an autocrasy overnight and I think it will take people a bit to realize that.

    14. Bawbawian on

      it’s like when they tell you you are protected by the Constitution but a man with an assault rifle can come and yank you out of your home and shoot your dog and maybe you and not even have the right house or any of the rights to do any of the things he’s done.

    17. glinkenheimer on

      Your proposed alternative is what? Everyone give up? Because anytime there is even minuscule pushback to authoritarianism, people come out of the woodwork saying “this won’t do anything” and it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. That only benefits the people who agree with how our government is getting fucked up.

    18. patchbaystray on

      It doesn’t mean much because of the absolute immunity that the Scotus gave him. However, that doesn’t stop CA from suing the commanders and troops that obeyed the unlawful order.

    19. chi_guy8 on

      It’s valuable in the sense that it’s a receipt the Dems should hold on to when they take back house, senate, WH and want to disregard the 2nd amendment to curb the senseless killing of school children.

    20. ramriot on

      A pattern of lawless behaviour can be used itself to challenge the ongoing acceptance as legal, further executive orders. At that point you have a constitutional crisis & possible calls to secede.

    23. foxx_grey on

      Forreal. I saw the news headline and immediately thought “now do something about it. Bet you won’t”

    28. feder_online on

      It matters for two reasons. First, because the use of force has been deemed illegal, soldiers are now free to ignore the orders to invade a state; any consequence to the soldiers for not carrying out the illegal order becomes a liability to those making the order and/or the armed forces.

      Second, because the order to invade a state is illegal, those soldiers still doing it could be prosecuted at the federal or state level. Because the order itself would be illegal, it would vitiate POTUS “immunity” on both a state and federal level.

      YMMV…I am not a lawyer and do not play one on TV.

    29. sixaout1982 on

      It might matter in the aftermath, when sane people take back power and trump’s minions face the consequences of their actions

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