Ironic considering that The Soviets were Antisemitic as well.
The best example of this would be the infamous Doctor’s Plot where many doctors were persecuted, tortured, and killed under the belief of a conspiracy theory about Jewish Doctors planning to murder several Soviet Officials.
Fuck the Soviet Union and Fuck Communism.
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Honestly at the beginning it was kinda both. Socialism and Communism were pretty widespread during the early days of Zionism. My whole family is still consistently Far-left and Zionist. Sadly since they were pretty much thrown under the bus by fellow left-wing circles, they are a dying kind.
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And now we have Israel, feeding on generating antisemitism
StrontiumDawn on
Jews are communists?
That’s very antisemitic of you OP. Reported.
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Can’t wait to see a civil and peaceful comment section 🙂
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here before the lock
Commissarfluffybutt on
And then the Soviet Union started killing them with their new friends: the Nazis.
jhonnytheyank on
Communist x Antisemitism was/is the craze in a major section of people
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Infinite_Beach_7089 on
First they create enemies then cry antisemitism, thats it
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Enter the third faction, the communsit zionists.
MjmtpFACT on
this is going to be fun
Elegant_Individual46 on
I mean much of Israel’s foundations come from Marxist Zionists so it’s not even one or the other
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My family were largely leftist and supported the bund but after the shoah most of them were killed and those that survived moved to the US. They still maintained their leftist beliefs in spite of it though.
Aleenion on
Basically become an antisemite nationalist, or build a working-class anti-nationalist identity.
Independent-Couple87 on
Early Israel was more friendly with the USSR than modern people are willing to admit.
Inevitable_Spray5922 on
That makes sense
If somebody tells you again and again you not welcome in their houses, you either move out abd want to have your own house like the rest , or you start to argue for one big house for everyone to live, that belongs to all.
familyguy20 on
If you are opposed to extremism and ethnonationalism than you should firmly be anti-Zionist. It’s really not that hard. Anyone trying to muddy the water saying that it’s Anti-Semitic truly cannot imagine different groups of people having different political ideologies even under the same religious/ethnic group. Anyone who can’t imagine that then has a specific ideological agenda they are trying to spread and that should be opposed.
Zionism as a political ideology got started only in 1897, you know what also started up around the same time and actually cared about Jews in their current countries and communities? The Jewish Labour Bund. Who was fighting against the European pogroms that were happening in the early 20th century? The Bund and other groups who opposed the tyrants that ran the countries they lived in and fought back.
“In the first popular history of the Bund, Crabapple re-creates their extraordinary world through dramatic portraits of insurgent poets and antireligious rebels, clandestine revolutionaries and lovers on the barricades. The Bundists live deeply within this violent, volatile, and somehow hopeful period, as their stories interweave with the Russian Revolution and the Holocaust. The Bund’s rise and fall raises the vital question: What can we learn from a movement that, for all its toughness, imagination, and moral clarity, was largely destroyed?
Here Where We Live Is Our Country reanimates a band of idealists who broadened our global political imagination. As we once again contend with nationalism, repression, and the struggle for belonging, the Bund’s remarkable story and message—that liberation, dignity, and solidarity must begin where we stand—reaches across time as a guide to our own urgent moment.”
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Ironic considering that The Soviets were Antisemitic as well.
The best example of this would be the infamous Doctor’s Plot where many doctors were persecuted, tortured, and killed under the belief of a conspiracy theory about Jewish Doctors planning to murder several Soviet Officials.
Fuck the Soviet Union and Fuck Communism.
Honestly at the beginning it was kinda both. Socialism and Communism were pretty widespread during the early days of Zionism. My whole family is still consistently Far-left and Zionist. Sadly since they were pretty much thrown under the bus by fellow left-wing circles, they are a dying kind.
And now we have Israel, feeding on generating antisemitism
Jews are communists?
That’s very antisemitic of you OP. Reported.
Can’t wait to see a civil and peaceful comment section 🙂
here before the lock
And then the Soviet Union started killing them with their new friends: the Nazis.
Communist x Antisemitism was/is the craze in a major section of people
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First they create enemies then cry antisemitism, thats it
Enter the third faction, the communsit zionists.
this is going to be fun
I mean much of Israel’s foundations come from Marxist Zionists so it’s not even one or the other
My family were largely leftist and supported the bund but after the shoah most of them were killed and those that survived moved to the US. They still maintained their leftist beliefs in spite of it though.
Basically become an antisemite nationalist, or build a working-class anti-nationalist identity.
Early Israel was more friendly with the USSR than modern people are willing to admit.
That makes sense
If somebody tells you again and again you not welcome in their houses, you either move out abd want to have your own house like the rest , or you start to argue for one big house for everyone to live, that belongs to all.
If you are opposed to extremism and ethnonationalism than you should firmly be anti-Zionist. It’s really not that hard. Anyone trying to muddy the water saying that it’s Anti-Semitic truly cannot imagine different groups of people having different political ideologies even under the same religious/ethnic group. Anyone who can’t imagine that then has a specific ideological agenda they are trying to spread and that should be opposed.
Zionism as a political ideology got started only in 1897, you know what also started up around the same time and actually cared about Jews in their current countries and communities? The Jewish Labour Bund. Who was fighting against the European pogroms that were happening in the early 20th century? The Bund and other groups who opposed the tyrants that ran the countries they lived in and fought back.
“In the first popular history of the Bund, Crabapple re-creates their extraordinary world through dramatic portraits of insurgent poets and antireligious rebels, clandestine revolutionaries and lovers on the barricades. The Bundists live deeply within this violent, volatile, and somehow hopeful period, as their stories interweave with the Russian Revolution and the Holocaust. The Bund’s rise and fall raises the vital question: What can we learn from a movement that, for all its toughness, imagination, and moral clarity, was largely destroyed?
Here Where We Live Is Our Country reanimates a band of idealists who broadened our global political imagination. As we once again contend with nationalism, repression, and the struggle for belonging, the Bund’s remarkable story and message—that liberation, dignity, and solidarity must begin where we stand—reaches across time as a guide to our own urgent moment.”
https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/646320/here-where-we-live-is-our-country-by-molly-crabapple/
Those two aren’t mutually exclusive.