That was.. Weirdly common in wartime France..

    by FrenchieB014

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    1. ragged-bobyn-1972 on

      The French are a enigma wrapped in a mystery concealed in their complete refusal explain themselves to anyone who speaks English.

      I genuinely admire them but god only knows what they’ll do in any situation and it will never be a half measure.

    2. EmilyIsNotALesbian on

      I do appreciate that Charles de Gaulles views on the Jews literally did a fucking 180 after 1967.

      Ah, French people. Love them or hate them, they exist.

    3. No-Communication3880 on

      C’est quoi le contexte s’il te plaît? Je ne sais absolument pas qui sont ces personnes.

    4. I know my great-grandfather was a member of the Camelots du Roi before the war – Monarchists, xenophobic, likely antisemitic, definitely racist and pro-colonialism.

      But he hated the Germans so much he cared for Resistance wounded men who came to his practice. No questions, definitely no delations, don’t matter if you were a communist before the war or whatever.

    5. Ok-Excuse-3613 on

      If my passion for spy stories told me anything, it’s that you can MICE almost anyone into almost anything

      M – Money

      I – Ideology

      C – Coercition

      E – Ego

    6. “I may be a anti-semite but I will be dead in the ground before I even think about collaborating with a German” -Francois de la Rocque

    7. GarageIndependent114 on

      Did the second one eagerly join the Vichies, or did he pull a Herge out of fear?

      Did the second one eagerly fight Nazis with Jewish people, or was he a thug who’d rather fight off people who were trying to take over his country and kidnap people and didn’t really give a shit if a group of Jewish soldiers died for it?

      Was the first one authentically antisemitic, or authentically trying to get his racist mates off his back about an affair with a Jewish girl?

      Was the second one actually anti racist, or were they just a woke communist authoritarian who cosplayed as an anarchist and was born in the wrong century to have blue hair?

    8. Pretty obvious: 1st one’s beliefs were stronger than his self preservation instinct and to achieve them he prioritized effectiveness over demagogy. 2nd one was the opposite.

    9. I feel like this is a bit more about nationalism for them, like, i dont know either of them, but i think someone really proud of his country would leave aside differences and colaborate with people they see as inferior in order to ensure the idependance of france. While someone who is not like that may collaborate with people that go against his ideals in order to ensure his own safety.

    10. BeduinZPouste on

      I mean yea. Being nationalist usually means you not only want to rid your country of [vermin] but that you don’t want it to be occupied. 

      The “student leaders” murdered by Germans in November of 39 are usually just called “student leaders” there in Czechia. The fact that vast majority of them were nationalists/borderline fascists who used to genuinely pick fights even before war is usually not mentioned. 

    11. French people when Black Americans are in France: 🥳🕺💃💋🍑💦🍆🔥🎇🎆🏅🎖🎶

      French people when Africans from their colonies are in France: 🤬☠️🤬☠️🤬☠️🤬☠️🤬

    12. ThroawayJimilyJones on

      It’s kind of logic

      First one was a nationalist extreme. He didn’t like the Jews. But I’m pretty sure he hated even more the Germans, especially the ones on the wrong side of the border

      Second one was an intellectual. They aren’t usually the fighting kind. When pressure came he folded.

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