There is absolutely no ocean nearby to throw anything in it. Like a bin laden with goods or anything at all.
gmoss101 on
“If they know we’re fucking with people who live in a decent looking place, they might not like it. Let’s tell them that it’s all “insurgents” in the desert, that’ll make sure they let us do our bullshit war!”
myotherbike on
The US media during all of those ‘military exercises’ basically showed us sandy streets and ramshackle outbuildings. In reality, it’s a nation also filled with lush valleys and incredible mountains. It’s a shame what we get fed through mainstream media and it’s getting way worse. Absolute dumpster fire.
4UnlawfulCarneVegan on
This should be a wake up call for her (and everyone) to stop eating up what the mass media is spoon feeding people.
seeeeya on
“War is how Americans learn geography”
fauxdeuce on
Did they ever say what city in they lived in? look up pictures of Kabul in the spring. Its beautiful. Its like me saying They told me america was all beaches, then i showed you pictures of death valley ca.
_shaftpunk on
I don’t know, but she’s gorgeous.
playmeforever on
It’s not that we were taught that it was dessert, we just assumed it was
spleeble on
Afghanistan is famously mountainous (“Hindu Kush” means “Killer of Hindus”) but if she just learned that then fine.
But why would anyone assume that an entire (large) country looks a certain way, and what is being propagandized?
aredd007 on
Wait til she learns how big Africa really is.
Soundwave234 on
Also some of the finest landrace cannabis in the world.
Blk_Rick_Dalton on
Yeah. [the troops in the mountains were absolutely struggling](https://youtu.be/-DjqR6OucBc?si=DybgJMIHdWWxaEW4). Its basically one big mountain range from Eastern Afghanistan to Southern China/Vietnam
SuperYam9174 on
WOW!!!!!
1rdmidulllast on
I remember finding this out while watching how they made hashish
fredjutsu on
Bro….the Afghanistan War was all over TV when it first went down. She’s acting like none of us saw all of that live, or the thousands of hours of footage of those same mountains on Youtube footage of the war.
Givnig her the benefit of the doubt of just not being alive at all in the early 00s.
nigdude on
Oh…then baby girl you gonna die once you see what all of Africa looks like.
Hint: It is all NOT the Serengeti with Lions and shit….
odinto552 on
I think this is more an issue of the failure of the US education system, its infuriating how little my fellow Americans know about geography and the rest of the world in general.
i_forgot_my_sn_again on
It’s like that with most of the world. Yes that’s not a “big” country itself but lots of other countries have varying topography. Things become boiled down and stereotypical and that’s how we get an image of what a country is.
I’m not a smoker but even I know Afghan kush came from the mountains of the area. Maybe cause 36 mafia and their skit talking about bin Laden weed lol
KahZamm22 on
Because we would leave
Comfortable_Fill9081 on
No hate but this reminds me of Trump when he says “nobody knew” something when everyone but him knew it.
Side note you realize mountains are a major cause of deserts due to a phenomenon called rain shadow. They go together like peanut butter and jelly. Yes deserts can form with out mountains but they often are together
Boggie135 on
One of the few things I like about sites like TikTok is that it gives a voice, a platform and an audience to people who would otherwise not have gotten it. This in turn gives other people insights into places and cultures they were not previously familiar with
Boggie135 on
One of the reasons Afghanistan is known as “The Graveyard of Empires”. Every civilisation/empire that tried to bring it to heel has failed miserably. The US being the latest example
Rachendr on
I’ve seen the climate of Afghanistan compared to Colorado before.
Trini_n_SC on
Most of the Population lives on the plains thus you get them terrible photos and it serves the purpose of (insert org/country) to show those photos. Africa has very beautiful places but all I saw of it growing up was starving children with flies and that terrible music and a Star asking me for money 🤷🏾
einsatzpoopen on
Lmfao at this being new information
idekbruno on
I think this person is just figuring out how to pay attention to the world around her for the first time. Bin Laden *famously* hid out in the mountains, it was kinda like his whole thing. Mountains are on the cover of The Kite Runner, which I’m pretty sure is required reading in most schools. The mountains of Afghanistan are literally the origin story of (MCU) Iron Man for crying out loud!
Nobody lied about this, it’s literally paramount to the entire history of the region and was widely covered in almost all forms of media for the past two and a half decades.
TimArthurScifiWriter on
Americans are extremely propagandized. It’s not their fault. This is the cost of living in a military superpower. When it has to do business, it has to justify that business to its own people. Now as a people Americans are little more than civilian residents of a giant military base but nevertheless they get make life on that base really uncomfortable for the people trying to run the show if they get too loud.
So the entire world is reduced to stereotypes. Turban wearing goat herders in deserts. Drunken Slavs squatting in front of depressing communist apartment blocks. Sweaty old men hanging around on benches in poverty-stricken rural dust-towns in Mexico. Shanty towns in Africa. And then America, the beacon of civilization and prosperity. Makes it easier to drop bombs without protest that way.
The moment Americans realize that the diminished awareness that they have of the rest of the world is an involuntary tax that’s being levied on their development as a human being, in order to prop up and sustain a system of international violence, the whole thing will come crashing down. There is a world in which America can be a country with a military instead of a military with a country. I hope to see it in my lifetime.
ColegDropOut on
To try to make it ok to kill brown people of course
RayDaIio on
Afghanistan is in Central Asia, not the Middle East, which is probably why people think it’s a desert.
If the country ends in -stan, it’s a Central Asian country.
If you’re surprised by this, just do more learning in general and have fewer opinions.
StringerBell34 on
Mountain + Desert = Afghanistan. I guess I’m old, but have ya’ll not seen footage from the war in Afghanistan and the hunt for Osama Bin Laden? It’s very clearly a dry, mountainous landscape.
ChaZZZZahC on
Now, imagine Afghanistan, but filled with rocket scientists and engineers, welcome to Iran.
Morlock19 on
theres a reason why literally NO ONE can hold the country for very long. the people there know the terrain, and no one who tries to take it over can handle it.
like famously the place is unconquerable.
bozwald on
You can feel however you want, but lack of curiosity isn’t the same as being propagandized because news reports were typically filmed in the safety of Kabul and its suburbs…
imo if your country is waging war, it’s really your responsibility as a citizen to learn some basic stuff about that place. Hate the war, but your country is still killing thousands in your name and your taxes are supporting it. You should be able to find these places on a map and understand the basic outlines of the conflict.
I know this is super preachy, but it’s something that one can recognize and address. When I was in college like 20 years ago we dropped bombs to kill some people in I think Yemen and Syria in addition to Afghanistan and Iraq, and I realized that I only assumed i knew roughly where those places were, but couldn’t pick them out on a map. I felt such deep shame that my country was killing people in a place I couldn’t even pick out in a map let alone know anything about. I realized I’m the problem in a real way – a public that is uneducated and indifferent. I spent a great deal of time trying to correct that – and while I don’t assume or think everyone needs to go deep, I stand by the idea that at a minimum if your country is killing people you ought to educate yourself about them and the place they live.
Edit: in hindsight, I mean, I guess she is doing that, and that’s a good thing – I was just taken aback by the attitude that it was propaganda that led to her lack of knowledge and the lack of shame at being so uninformed.
DawRogg on
I mean, who teaches on this in the US? And why would they teach it? This is one of those things you would have to look up on your own.
Maleficent-Pea-4966 on
No one lied to you lol, you just didn’t know.
m3rc3n4ry on
Isn’t there a way to superimpose photos on tiktok without needing to struggle with holding a tablet facing away from you?
Intention_Typical on
Glad you said the most important thing. We have to teach ourselves. Historically we have been lied to. Maybe you teach class or do ebook because several people don’t have that skill
Automatic_Safe_326 on
Ummmm, did nobody else read “The Kite Runner” or “A Thousand Splendid Suns”? Afghanistan is known for its beauty and being a famously notorious place to get stuck in a quagmire.
RudytheMan on
So, Afghanistan is both those things. The regions like Kandahar, and Helmand do have lots of desert. There are some old mountains in those regions too. But there are also greenbelts, rivers, valleys, mountains, and deserts throughout the country. There are some gorgeous places in Afghanistan. But like most countries they have different geographic conditions in them. For example, Italy in the south is very different than Italy in the north, right? But I would agree that in the early 2000s there was a tendancy in the media to show poor villages and deserts.
QuackButter on
Wait until she finds out about the doc Restrepo
Oxygenitic on
She didn’t know Afghanistan was mountainous and she thinks it’s because someone was/is spreading propaganda to say otherwise? Huh?
shortesttitan on
That statement about getting angrier the older you get and the more you actually learn and look into stuff hit hard
RecursiveDysfunction on
Afghanistan was a very popular travel destination for hippies and bohemIan types in the 60’s.
the_ballmer_peak on
I was just having this conversation with my wife who was insisting that India’s topology and climate are mostly uniform.
India borders Nepal and includes parts of the Himalayas.
Brian-TrojanPrince07 on
Because invading countries is a dirty business and if you see them bombing a suburb that looks like Los Angeles then the narrative loses it aura. It’s easier to justify bombing a “foreign” country instead of a country that is like the one you work and play in.
Byrktr1 on
The reason is so that you do not see the people of other nations through the same lens as you see your fellow countryman.
They want you to see others as being less civilized less evolved more impoverished and this allows governments to justify going and bombing the shit out of other nations because they are ‘liberating these poor oppressed downtrodden people’ to try to bring them into the current century.
A proper gander indeed. And we fall for it again and again. All of us. Every nation plays this game.
Savage-September on
American ignorance is the death of America. Keep it up.
AbsoluteResolve2026 on
The climate, topography, and agricultural potential is extremely similar to the Central Valley of California. Both solders and ecologists trained there pre-deployment circa 2004-2009.
Source: served 3 tours spec-ops and 5 more years as a contractor
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There is absolutely no ocean nearby to throw anything in it. Like a bin laden with goods or anything at all.
“If they know we’re fucking with people who live in a decent looking place, they might not like it. Let’s tell them that it’s all “insurgents” in the desert, that’ll make sure they let us do our bullshit war!”
The US media during all of those ‘military exercises’ basically showed us sandy streets and ramshackle outbuildings. In reality, it’s a nation also filled with lush valleys and incredible mountains. It’s a shame what we get fed through mainstream media and it’s getting way worse. Absolute dumpster fire.
This should be a wake up call for her (and everyone) to stop eating up what the mass media is spoon feeding people.
“War is how Americans learn geography”
Did they ever say what city in they lived in? look up pictures of Kabul in the spring. Its beautiful. Its like me saying They told me america was all beaches, then i showed you pictures of death valley ca.
I don’t know, but she’s gorgeous.
It’s not that we were taught that it was dessert, we just assumed it was
Afghanistan is famously mountainous (“Hindu Kush” means “Killer of Hindus”) but if she just learned that then fine.
But why would anyone assume that an entire (large) country looks a certain way, and what is being propagandized?
Wait til she learns how big Africa really is.
Also some of the finest landrace cannabis in the world.
Yeah. [the troops in the mountains were absolutely struggling](https://youtu.be/-DjqR6OucBc?si=DybgJMIHdWWxaEW4). Its basically one big mountain range from Eastern Afghanistan to Southern China/Vietnam
WOW!!!!!
I remember finding this out while watching how they made hashish
Bro….the Afghanistan War was all over TV when it first went down. She’s acting like none of us saw all of that live, or the thousands of hours of footage of those same mountains on Youtube footage of the war.
Givnig her the benefit of the doubt of just not being alive at all in the early 00s.
Oh…then baby girl you gonna die once you see what all of Africa looks like.
Hint: It is all NOT the Serengeti with Lions and shit….
I think this is more an issue of the failure of the US education system, its infuriating how little my fellow Americans know about geography and the rest of the world in general.
It’s like that with most of the world. Yes that’s not a “big” country itself but lots of other countries have varying topography. Things become boiled down and stereotypical and that’s how we get an image of what a country is.
I’m not a smoker but even I know Afghan kush came from the mountains of the area. Maybe cause 36 mafia and their skit talking about bin Laden weed lol
Because we would leave
No hate but this reminds me of Trump when he says “nobody knew” something when everyone but him knew it.
Actually kinda sad.
What??? We all knew this. This is why the war was so hard to fight. Because they had mountains and caves to hide in. They talked about the stupid mountains caves every day on the news. when were searching for Bin Laden. Iron Man 1. Tony stark built his damn suit in a Mountain in Afghanistan. In 2001 on South Park “Ben Laden Farty Pants” Eric Cartman travels to the mountains of Afghanistan to harass Osama Ben Laden. All the photos of the man is him walking around [snowy mountains](https://www.google.com/search?q=tora+bora+Bin+Laden+in+afghanistan&client=safari&hs=iZF&sca_esv=4b9c4fb793c57767&hl=en-us&udm=2&biw=440&bih=796&sxsrf=ANbL-n6kIJtQz8SW5fPLgjZ3kMM7YzrKQg%3A1774407676522&ei=_E_DaZCmH6jV5NoP0-7tiQo&oq=tora+bora+Bin+Laden+in+afghanistan&gs_lp=EhJtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1pbWciInRvcmEgYm9yYSBCaW4gTGFkZW4gaW4gYWZnaGFuaXN0YW4yCBAAGIAEGKIEMggQABiABBiiBDIIEAAYgAQYogQyCBAAGIAEGKIEMggQABiABBiiBEj_PlDlFlitOnAEeACQAQCYAcEBoAHXB6oBBDEyLjG4AQPIAQD4AQGYAg-gAvAFwgIHECMYJxjJAsICCBAAGKIEGIkFwgIIEAAYBxgIGB6YAwCIBgGSBwIxNaAH7CKyBwIxMbgH6wXCBwYyLjExLjLIBxeACAA&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-img#sv=CAMSZBoyKhBlLXQ3MEF4S2VaQTBBU29NMg50NzBBeEtlWkEwQVNvTToOQ281SHAyTkV1RDJYVU0gBCokCg5KZG53RnBZQlBSNV8wTRIQZS10NzBBeEtlWkEwQVNvTRgAMAFKBAgBEAIYByDquo2bDjABSggQAhgBIAIoAQ) in Afghanistan.
Side note you realize mountains are a major cause of deserts due to a phenomenon called rain shadow. They go together like peanut butter and jelly. Yes deserts can form with out mountains but they often are together
One of the few things I like about sites like TikTok is that it gives a voice, a platform and an audience to people who would otherwise not have gotten it. This in turn gives other people insights into places and cultures they were not previously familiar with
One of the reasons Afghanistan is known as “The Graveyard of Empires”. Every civilisation/empire that tried to bring it to heel has failed miserably. The US being the latest example
I’ve seen the climate of Afghanistan compared to Colorado before.
Most of the Population lives on the plains thus you get them terrible photos and it serves the purpose of (insert org/country) to show those photos. Africa has very beautiful places but all I saw of it growing up was starving children with flies and that terrible music and a Star asking me for money 🤷🏾
Lmfao at this being new information
I think this person is just figuring out how to pay attention to the world around her for the first time. Bin Laden *famously* hid out in the mountains, it was kinda like his whole thing. Mountains are on the cover of The Kite Runner, which I’m pretty sure is required reading in most schools. The mountains of Afghanistan are literally the origin story of (MCU) Iron Man for crying out loud!
Nobody lied about this, it’s literally paramount to the entire history of the region and was widely covered in almost all forms of media for the past two and a half decades.
Americans are extremely propagandized. It’s not their fault. This is the cost of living in a military superpower. When it has to do business, it has to justify that business to its own people. Now as a people Americans are little more than civilian residents of a giant military base but nevertheless they get make life on that base really uncomfortable for the people trying to run the show if they get too loud.
So the entire world is reduced to stereotypes. Turban wearing goat herders in deserts. Drunken Slavs squatting in front of depressing communist apartment blocks. Sweaty old men hanging around on benches in poverty-stricken rural dust-towns in Mexico. Shanty towns in Africa. And then America, the beacon of civilization and prosperity. Makes it easier to drop bombs without protest that way.
The moment Americans realize that the diminished awareness that they have of the rest of the world is an involuntary tax that’s being levied on their development as a human being, in order to prop up and sustain a system of international violence, the whole thing will come crashing down. There is a world in which America can be a country with a military instead of a military with a country. I hope to see it in my lifetime.
To try to make it ok to kill brown people of course
Afghanistan is in Central Asia, not the Middle East, which is probably why people think it’s a desert.
If the country ends in -stan, it’s a Central Asian country.
If you’re surprised by this, just do more learning in general and have fewer opinions.
Mountain + Desert = Afghanistan. I guess I’m old, but have ya’ll not seen footage from the war in Afghanistan and the hunt for Osama Bin Laden? It’s very clearly a dry, mountainous landscape.
Now, imagine Afghanistan, but filled with rocket scientists and engineers, welcome to Iran.
theres a reason why literally NO ONE can hold the country for very long. the people there know the terrain, and no one who tries to take it over can handle it.
like famously the place is unconquerable.
You can feel however you want, but lack of curiosity isn’t the same as being propagandized because news reports were typically filmed in the safety of Kabul and its suburbs…
imo if your country is waging war, it’s really your responsibility as a citizen to learn some basic stuff about that place. Hate the war, but your country is still killing thousands in your name and your taxes are supporting it. You should be able to find these places on a map and understand the basic outlines of the conflict.
I know this is super preachy, but it’s something that one can recognize and address. When I was in college like 20 years ago we dropped bombs to kill some people in I think Yemen and Syria in addition to Afghanistan and Iraq, and I realized that I only assumed i knew roughly where those places were, but couldn’t pick them out on a map. I felt such deep shame that my country was killing people in a place I couldn’t even pick out in a map let alone know anything about. I realized I’m the problem in a real way – a public that is uneducated and indifferent. I spent a great deal of time trying to correct that – and while I don’t assume or think everyone needs to go deep, I stand by the idea that at a minimum if your country is killing people you ought to educate yourself about them and the place they live.
Edit: in hindsight, I mean, I guess she is doing that, and that’s a good thing – I was just taken aback by the attitude that it was propaganda that led to her lack of knowledge and the lack of shame at being so uninformed.
I mean, who teaches on this in the US? And why would they teach it? This is one of those things you would have to look up on your own.
No one lied to you lol, you just didn’t know.
Isn’t there a way to superimpose photos on tiktok without needing to struggle with holding a tablet facing away from you?
Glad you said the most important thing. We have to teach ourselves. Historically we have been lied to. Maybe you teach class or do ebook because several people don’t have that skill
Ummmm, did nobody else read “The Kite Runner” or “A Thousand Splendid Suns”? Afghanistan is known for its beauty and being a famously notorious place to get stuck in a quagmire.
So, Afghanistan is both those things. The regions like Kandahar, and Helmand do have lots of desert. There are some old mountains in those regions too. But there are also greenbelts, rivers, valleys, mountains, and deserts throughout the country. There are some gorgeous places in Afghanistan. But like most countries they have different geographic conditions in them. For example, Italy in the south is very different than Italy in the north, right? But I would agree that in the early 2000s there was a tendancy in the media to show poor villages and deserts.
Wait until she finds out about the doc Restrepo
She didn’t know Afghanistan was mountainous and she thinks it’s because someone was/is spreading propaganda to say otherwise? Huh?
That statement about getting angrier the older you get and the more you actually learn and look into stuff hit hard
Afghanistan was a very popular travel destination for hippies and bohemIan types in the 60’s.
I was just having this conversation with my wife who was insisting that India’s topology and climate are mostly uniform.
India borders Nepal and includes parts of the Himalayas.
Because invading countries is a dirty business and if you see them bombing a suburb that looks like Los Angeles then the narrative loses it aura. It’s easier to justify bombing a “foreign” country instead of a country that is like the one you work and play in.
The reason is so that you do not see the people of other nations through the same lens as you see your fellow countryman.
They want you to see others as being less civilized less evolved more impoverished and this allows governments to justify going and bombing the shit out of other nations because they are ‘liberating these poor oppressed downtrodden people’ to try to bring them into the current century.
A proper gander indeed. And we fall for it again and again. All of us. Every nation plays this game.
American ignorance is the death of America. Keep it up.
The climate, topography, and agricultural potential is extremely similar to the Central Valley of California. Both solders and ecologists trained there pre-deployment circa 2004-2009.
Source: served 3 tours spec-ops and 5 more years as a contractor