Im just reminded of that one American Dad episode where GB gets a phone call from god asking him to tone talking about their relationship down a bit, and then God gets a call from Dick Cheney and needs to answer it right away.
I can just imagine good old Chirac muttering to himself “mais il est complètement fou ce mec !”
Flussschlauch on
US flavours of Christianity are wild
Connect_Reading9499 on
That is, indeed, some wild prot talk.
szopatoszamuraj on
Yeah, americans, especially the evangelicals are very weird and rabid about their form of christianity. Case in point, the rapture being an America only thing.
DieMensch-Maschine on
Was Shrub speaking in tongues when he passed on this bit of intelligence?
TexasSikh on
For the curious: In Christianity these figures are described explicitly in the revelations of the prophet Ezekiel.
No this is not just something GWB made up, nor is this some weird Protestant Christian thing. If anything, this shows how little the Roman Catholic French PM knew about his own faith.
Now to be fair, Protestants are more well known for their obsession with the Bible itself while Roman Catholics also keep in mind things they refer to as “Church Traditions” while the Bible is just one important piece of a wider puzzle. Gog and Magog would be things that even a Catholic Priest would be confused about and likely need to refresh on lol.
(Source: My friend, who is an ordained Roman Catholic Priest)
EDIT: I don’t normally notice such things, but I am actively engaged in discussions here so I am seeing my comment being downvoted to hell. My question is – Why? What is so egregious that it justifies mass downvoting?
microtherion on
Good luck finding a French Protestant willing to talk to the government. That has not gone well for them, historically.
aardvarkgecko on
It’s wild how GWB’s image has been rehabilitated so thoroughly that he is now seen as some benevolent harmless old man, rather than as someone who destroyed literally millions of lives based on flimsy pretenses.
AnnoyedNala on
I love it that Chirac had someone called his heretic translator to find out WTF Bush was talking about.
InsideHousing4965 on
The crusades never stopped, they just had a makeover to appeal to the new generations.
JayMack1981 on
Gog is pretty cool. Let’s you play old PC games on a modern computer.
(I’m being facetious, not ignorant)
papaniq on
american christian evangelicanists are really giving a bad name for all christians all around the world
doug1003 on
What the United.Stated did to christianity is aaberration and people blame LUTHER
Successful_Swim6332 on
Protestantism was a mistake.
QuandaleTickleTipson on
Haven’t seen this one in a while…
board3659 on
This story seems kind of dubious due to how similar it is to the rumor with Regan believing the same thing but with the USSR. I also can’t find this story outside of the guardian article and it is post-bush (2009) so it might have been during the best time to make fun of him basically
_theghost_ on
Yep. William Branham and the NAR should be getting the slander they deserve over promoting this type of theology (End-Times/Doomsday) and “Manifest Sons of God.”
tirohtar on
The French Protestants, not being crazy evangelicals, probably answered something like “we don’t know either, these guys are whack”…
Fun fact, it’s believed that Gog and Magog aren’t two places but actually they are a name + a place name.[Religion for Breakfast does a deep dive on the subject](https://youtu.be/wh11CuVUZPY?si=MBPDnntkuqW-dHsl)
ThrowAwayAccount4902 on
Fun fact, in Skull and Bones, the secret society Bush was part of, his nickname was Gog and his dad’s was Magog.
Melodic2000 on
What the hell?! This is crazy!
Troglodytes_Cousin on
Chirac : “what is this herecy ?! “
Various-Passenger398 on
Bush, for all his many faults, was also kind of a run-of-the-mill neocon. The source for this sounds sus.
reverendsteveii on
“the president says he talks to god every day. if he said he talked to god through a hair dryer every day we’d all agree he was crazy. i don’t think the hair dryer is what makes this crazy.”
–dennis miller, I think? one of those shitty white guy rant comics from that era
AndreasDasos on
It seems Chirac did have reason to believe that Bush (or his administration) was focused on apocalyptic prophecy and thought Gog and Magog were in play, and he did check with Protestant experts, but we don’t have any actual transcript of such a call and that wording *really* doesn’t sound like Dubya.
brtbr-rah99 on
I think someone told Trump this and that’s his reason for attacking Iran. He’s going to be the hero of the far right when the rapture happens and get good with Jesus
SiskoKing124 on
Average Catholic person never reading the Bible lol.
BataMahn3 on
This kinda sounds like Bush was convinced during a phone call with Netenyahooo
ukr_anon on
Why is dispensationalism and millenarianism so common amongst Americans?
KimJongUnusual on
Isn’t this also fake news, and the guy who was there said this didn’t happen?
_Volatile_ on
Americans yearn for the day they can have one normal fucking person in office
Eastern-Goal-4427 on
The most amazing thing is this reference would be readily understood by most Muslims (whom Bush considered an alien and enemy civilisation), as Gog and Magog figure pretty significantly in their eschatology.
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Im just reminded of that one American Dad episode where GB gets a phone call from god asking him to tone talking about their relationship down a bit, and then God gets a call from Dick Cheney and needs to answer it right away.
George Waltuh Bush
Here’s the complete story
[https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/andrewbrown/2009/aug/10/religion-george-bush](https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/andrewbrown/2009/aug/10/religion-george-bush)
I can just imagine good old Chirac muttering to himself “mais il est complètement fou ce mec !”
US flavours of Christianity are wild
That is, indeed, some wild prot talk.
Yeah, americans, especially the evangelicals are very weird and rabid about their form of christianity. Case in point, the rapture being an America only thing.
Was Shrub speaking in tongues when he passed on this bit of intelligence?
For the curious: In Christianity these figures are described explicitly in the revelations of the prophet Ezekiel.
No this is not just something GWB made up, nor is this some weird Protestant Christian thing. If anything, this shows how little the Roman Catholic French PM knew about his own faith.
Now to be fair, Protestants are more well known for their obsession with the Bible itself while Roman Catholics also keep in mind things they refer to as “Church Traditions” while the Bible is just one important piece of a wider puzzle. Gog and Magog would be things that even a Catholic Priest would be confused about and likely need to refresh on lol.
(Source: My friend, who is an ordained Roman Catholic Priest)
EDIT: I don’t normally notice such things, but I am actively engaged in discussions here so I am seeing my comment being downvoted to hell. My question is – Why? What is so egregious that it justifies mass downvoting?
Good luck finding a French Protestant willing to talk to the government. That has not gone well for them, historically.
It’s wild how GWB’s image has been rehabilitated so thoroughly that he is now seen as some benevolent harmless old man, rather than as someone who destroyed literally millions of lives based on flimsy pretenses.
I love it that Chirac had someone called his heretic translator to find out WTF Bush was talking about.
The crusades never stopped, they just had a makeover to appeal to the new generations.
Gog is pretty cool. Let’s you play old PC games on a modern computer.
(I’m being facetious, not ignorant)
american christian evangelicanists are really giving a bad name for all christians all around the world
What the United.Stated did to christianity is aaberration and people blame LUTHER
Protestantism was a mistake.
Haven’t seen this one in a while…
This story seems kind of dubious due to how similar it is to the rumor with Regan believing the same thing but with the USSR. I also can’t find this story outside of the guardian article and it is post-bush (2009) so it might have been during the best time to make fun of him basically
Yep. William Branham and the NAR should be getting the slander they deserve over promoting this type of theology (End-Times/Doomsday) and “Manifest Sons of God.”
The French Protestants, not being crazy evangelicals, probably answered something like “we don’t know either, these guys are whack”…
[Some background of Gog and Magog prophecies for any interested](https://youtu.be/wh11CuVUZPY?si=TCr6nkgR4WiyP3ry).
Fun fact, it’s believed that Gog and Magog aren’t two places but actually they are a name + a place name.[Religion for Breakfast does a deep dive on the subject](https://youtu.be/wh11CuVUZPY?si=MBPDnntkuqW-dHsl)
Fun fact, in Skull and Bones, the secret society Bush was part of, his nickname was Gog and his dad’s was Magog.
What the hell?! This is crazy!
Chirac : “what is this herecy ?! “
Bush, for all his many faults, was also kind of a run-of-the-mill neocon. The source for this sounds sus.
“the president says he talks to god every day. if he said he talked to god through a hair dryer every day we’d all agree he was crazy. i don’t think the hair dryer is what makes this crazy.”
–dennis miller, I think? one of those shitty white guy rant comics from that era
It seems Chirac did have reason to believe that Bush (or his administration) was focused on apocalyptic prophecy and thought Gog and Magog were in play, and he did check with Protestant experts, but we don’t have any actual transcript of such a call and that wording *really* doesn’t sound like Dubya.
I think someone told Trump this and that’s his reason for attacking Iran. He’s going to be the hero of the far right when the rapture happens and get good with Jesus
Average Catholic person never reading the Bible lol.
This kinda sounds like Bush was convinced during a phone call with Netenyahooo
Why is dispensationalism and millenarianism so common amongst Americans?
Isn’t this also fake news, and the guy who was there said this didn’t happen?
Americans yearn for the day they can have one normal fucking person in office
The most amazing thing is this reference would be readily understood by most Muslims (whom Bush considered an alien and enemy civilisation), as Gog and Magog figure pretty significantly in their eschatology.