I doubt any country would be willing to denuclearize after recent events.
Own_Neighborhood_839 on
The U.S. and the U.K. provided security assurances regarding Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity; it went very well in retrospect /s
nemethv on
Budapest agreement? “Funny” that with Orbán and his position on the subject. /s
DeshawnWilliams1 on
Whose turn to post this is it tomorrow?
OnlymyOP on
This aged well…..
morbie5 on
I know this might get downvoted because it doesn’t fit the narrative but Ukraine had no way of detonating these nuclear weapons. Is it possible that they could have reversed engineered them or made a dirty bomb? Maybe but that would have taken money and resources that they didn’t really have. Plus they would have probably been sanctioned by both Europe and the US for even trying
thisisjustascreename on
Treaties with Russia aren’t worth the crappy single ply toilet paper they’re printed on. They only understand strength.
pythosynthesis on
Ukraine “had” nukes much like Germany has nukes – They were hosting them, but could not launch them. The controls of that were always in Moscow.
Introverted-headcase on
Never surrender your weapons! History is full of lessons like this.
silverado-z71 on
Yeah, well that’s when the adults were in charge
Foreplaying on
Ah the Budapest Memorandum, that Russia, UK and the US all signed agreeing to not having any military presence inside Ukraine.
Ukrainian Constitution sates that “foreign military bases shall not be permitted on the territory of Ukraine.”
Fast forward to 2014 and both UK and the US are doing military exercises in the Ukraine, pouring billions of dollar into setting up missile sites. And this was before the annexation of Crimea.
Not saying Russia is in the right here, but Ukraine was supposed to be a buffer state, and the US and UK aren’t innocent either.
5hadow on
It’s symbolic. They wouldn’t be able to use any of that anyways. It’s not like Russia left their “Press here to launch” button laying around.
gord89 on
I’m too old for this place
Delitea187 on
This is not accurate: In 1994 Ukraine signed the Budapest Memorandum with Russia, the US, and the UK. Ukraine agreed to give up the nuclear weapons it inherited from the Soviet Union and join the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty as a non-nuclear state. In return, the signatories pledged to respect Ukraine’s sovereignty and borders and not use or threaten force against it.
The weapons were physically transferred and dismantled by 1996, which is why that year is sometimes mentioned.
N4pAllDay on
This fact should be general knowledge … it’s comically obvious how black and white this war is from the beginning
Professional_Hair550 on
I did search it. Basically Ukraine didn’t have the equipment to operate the nuclear weapons and US forced Ukraine to transfer them to Russia to centralize them.
helpfulhint- on
I don’t understand why the US is acting like Ukraine insisting on keeping their borders the exact same as they were on that day is unreasonable?
Oram0 on
This fake story again.
The nuclear weapons we’re in Ukraine, but on Russian bases, with Russian soldiers guarding them and Russia having the launch codes.
The Treaty aim was to get the Russians out of Ukraine.
The Treaty does not promise to protect Ukraine in any way. If someone threatens them, they would get a consult meeting with the signers, that’s all.
G40Momo on
Gave up nuclear weapons for bio labs and willingness to join NATO. Real smart move 😆
Ok-Client7794 on
And NATO never expands one inch eastward.
Funny how Reddit keeps posting the same picture over and over.
X1phoner on
Just like we promised to not expand NATO to the east 😂
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Well well well….
Never trust your enemy
Lying politicians? No way
I doubt any country would be willing to denuclearize after recent events.
The U.S. and the U.K. provided security assurances regarding Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity; it went very well in retrospect /s
Budapest agreement? “Funny” that with Orbán and his position on the subject. /s
Whose turn to post this is it tomorrow?
This aged well…..
I know this might get downvoted because it doesn’t fit the narrative but Ukraine had no way of detonating these nuclear weapons. Is it possible that they could have reversed engineered them or made a dirty bomb? Maybe but that would have taken money and resources that they didn’t really have. Plus they would have probably been sanctioned by both Europe and the US for even trying
Treaties with Russia aren’t worth the crappy single ply toilet paper they’re printed on. They only understand strength.
Ukraine “had” nukes much like Germany has nukes – They were hosting them, but could not launch them. The controls of that were always in Moscow.
Never surrender your weapons! History is full of lessons like this.
Yeah, well that’s when the adults were in charge
Ah the Budapest Memorandum, that Russia, UK and the US all signed agreeing to not having any military presence inside Ukraine.
Ukrainian Constitution sates that “foreign military bases shall not be permitted on the territory of Ukraine.”
Fast forward to 2014 and both UK and the US are doing military exercises in the Ukraine, pouring billions of dollar into setting up missile sites. And this was before the annexation of Crimea.
Not saying Russia is in the right here, but Ukraine was supposed to be a buffer state, and the US and UK aren’t innocent either.
It’s symbolic. They wouldn’t be able to use any of that anyways. It’s not like Russia left their “Press here to launch” button laying around.
I’m too old for this place
This is not accurate: In 1994 Ukraine signed the Budapest Memorandum with Russia, the US, and the UK. Ukraine agreed to give up the nuclear weapons it inherited from the Soviet Union and join the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty as a non-nuclear state. In return, the signatories pledged to respect Ukraine’s sovereignty and borders and not use or threaten force against it.
The weapons were physically transferred and dismantled by 1996, which is why that year is sometimes mentioned.
This fact should be general knowledge … it’s comically obvious how black and white this war is from the beginning
I did search it. Basically Ukraine didn’t have the equipment to operate the nuclear weapons and US forced Ukraine to transfer them to Russia to centralize them.
I don’t understand why the US is acting like Ukraine insisting on keeping their borders the exact same as they were on that day is unreasonable?
This fake story again.
The nuclear weapons we’re in Ukraine, but on Russian bases, with Russian soldiers guarding them and Russia having the launch codes.
The Treaty aim was to get the Russians out of Ukraine.
The Treaty does not promise to protect Ukraine in any way. If someone threatens them, they would get a consult meeting with the signers, that’s all.
Gave up nuclear weapons for bio labs and willingness to join NATO. Real smart move 😆
And NATO never expands one inch eastward.
Funny how Reddit keeps posting the same picture over and over.
Just like we promised to not expand NATO to the east 😂
They got played