Feels like it is more of downfall of skill for this one
Local_Sugar9005 on
Modern art is literally just a money laundering scheme with extra steps
lucidbadger on
Yeah, after you’ve made something like in the top picture, you can make something like in the bottom one as a joke or prank. Otherwise you are just talentless pretender with no skill or wit.
justinekkk on
still can’t believe it was sold for $6.2 million!!
Festivefire on
People make fun of the wall banana, but I respect the wall banana, because the entire point of the wall banana was to comment on the state of modern art culture, and yet it has become the go-to example of the thing it’s meant to be caricaturing.
It’s like if somebody used a Ben Garrison comic as an example of what’s wrong with politics, not realizing that the Ben Garrison comic is supposed to be making fun of the actual events.
Iphrid on
I don’t know. Mocking the modern art world by having cryptobros shell out millions for a banana and some duct tape seems pretty creative to me.
It’s even called ‘Comedian’. You basically have to make an effort to miss the point.
navagon on
It’s ironic that you’re actually agreeing with the intentions behind the banana piece.
CharmingDarling02 on
10/10 would eat the ‘Now’ exhibit.
anto1883 on
I’m not a fan of modern art either, but the top picture is in no way creative, it’s impressive and made by someone incredibly skilled, but it’s literally just a person, didn’t require some great creativity.
joe28598 on
I’d argue there’s more creativity in the abstract than in the life-like.
How much creativity do you need to replicate something 1 to 1 with real life?
How much creativity do you need to somehow give meaning to a banana duct taped to a wall?
_Xaril_ on
Honestly? Simplicity is sometimes a good alternative from highly detailed art, because you may direct your attention more to what the author wanted to tell. But on the other hand when I see such jokes like shit in a can or invisible statue being recreated over, and over, and over, and bloody over again I just want to vomit. Detailed art was, is and will always be impressive, but crap like what we’re receiving today is not art but the money industry taking it from snobs. There are a lot of good artists who do simple art and it has its deep meaning. Banksy is the best example. Detail is always impressive, but to create visually simple, but meaningfully good art is a much more difficult thing.
ruettenshit on
Ever been to a contemporary art museum? – Just full of bananas.
oO0Kat0Oo on
Is “Now” in the room with us? That banana is more than a decade old.
Todegal on
Effort and creativity are not the same thing.
Ashamed-Wealth2452 on
Everytime I see a meme like this, it shows nobody understands the banana; the entire point of it was to comment on the state of modern art
SailorPlatinum on
And yet, a banana taped to the wall is still better than AI “art” and I stand by it, at least real material were used.
DistributionRound570 on
It’s called minimalism.
Pedka2 on
i like the banana. its like a one big fuck you
Nabzarella on
Cherry-picking at its finest.
Aggressive-Rate-5022 on
Stupid posts like that convinced me that people who criticise modern art in comparison to old one in majority of cases are just dumbasses, who don’t turn their brain for a second or actually engage with it honestly.
This “banana on wall” is called “comedian”, it’s a life caricature for modern art. You can easily understand it, if you look at it as an actual work of art and engaged with it.
But people don’t do it anymore. They see shit on internet and base their whole belief system on things they don’t bother to learn about.
Loudzy27 on
Isn’t the “then” the less creative one out of the two tho ?
Like it’s realistic that’s for sure, but realism is the farthest thing from creativity as you don’t create anything, you copy reality.
In that aspect the banana is way more creative.
mensdude on
Still creativity
RandomBird53 on
Sorry but your meme is literally saying the exact same thing the wall banana was saying.
People don’t like to acknowledge contemporary art as real art but unfortunately the debate around them proves it’s value *as* art because a very common objective of art is to stir up conversation to ask you a question and all that.
There is no such thing as art that doesn’t have value because there will always bs atleast one person who values a piece of art, most commonly the artist.
All Art is Art, there are no criteria for it needing to be Good or Beautiful or Intricate to count as Art, even a banana duct taped to a wall does absolutely count.
JustdoitJules on
Wall Banana is just funny lol.
A banana slapped to the wall with duct tape feels very slapstick to me
gruetzhaxe on
Not exactly of creativity, but handicrafts
_zamoht_ on
Because posts like this, i say the banana with ductape is a good art piece.
H_i_TMAN on
You’re confusing art and craftsmanship. Back then, a rich guy said to someone: “Make a lifelike sculpture of me, using all your craftsmanship. But make sure I look good!”
It was done because someone paid for it in advance. A commission.
The banana is art. It was simply made by the so-called artist, and only then did people find it appealing, evaluate it, and assign a price to it. And don’t forget, people paid that price for it!
You demand that one thing be good and meet your aesthetic standards because you paid for it in advance.
The other thing never claimed to please you. And you don’t have to like it. And if the artist wanted to provoke you and you are upset about this banana, the artist is happier than he could be with any amount of money.
Efficient_Editor5850 on
That’s more like contrast in skill. Both may be creative endeavors.
TallCommission7139 on
You can still get the top one, but you can get that, or a ferrari, which would you pick?
QBekka on
There are thousands of realistic statues, but there was only one wall banana. Now who’s the most creative
Illusionist2409 on
Art is supposed to make you think, feel, discuss. And here you are.
Ansambel on
The whole point of the banana is exactly the same as the point of your meme. It is a comment on low-effort pretentious shit, on a meaning over effort in a lot of modern art. At the same time it tackels this, by being a fucking banana on a wall. It is a metacomentary on the state of modern art. It’s a direct qiuestion of should art be beatiful or should it convey meaning?
The banana clearly emotionaly resonated with you in a way, i doubt any marble statue did. It is shit glued ot the wall, that starts a thought process. It taunts you from the wall with it’s ugliness, and yet smugly knows it made you think precisely the stuff the artist wanted you to think. The more you hate it, the more you prove it’s point about being an artipiece.
It’s a very clever thing, if you ask me.
Ok-Impress-2222 on
This seems cherrypicked.
Fatall-TM on
Cherry picking at its most karma farmiest
awsomeguy90 on
This is the case with any form of art. Theres art thats there to look pretty or set the mood, but doesnt really say anything (think video game music, paintings that present everyday objects, heck even r34, stuff you make for the sake of making it look good) and then theres art youre supposed to understand.
Though you can probably pull a message out of anything if youre creative enough, there are times where its obvious if the art isnt really trying to say anything and times where its screaming at you. Like a caricature, like this one.
Specific-Creme5413 on
Even though it’s taking the piss out of modern art!
Bassman437 on
It’s called money laundering. You can thank the Cold War, CIA and paintings by people like Jackson Pollock.
ImmediateConcern1566 on
Once again we can thank the CIA for tongue-bathing the assholes of abstract and absurdist artists while relegating class-conscious art to the gutter.
Hotkoin on
Also ignores the fact that there are still excellent sculptors and carvers doing the same thing as the image today
River_Grass on
Always glad to see the wall banana working
Sithoid on
Old man yells at cloud
Busy_Insect_2636 on
why are people still talking about the banana
its just proving the message behind it
ivlmag182 on
What is so creative in trying to emulate real world?
The reason contemporary art exists in its current form is because it was stupid to try to recreate real world when photography and cinema exists.
haugen1632 on
The wall banana is arguably the more creative of these two.
ResistJunior5197 on
Picking the best example from the past against the worst from the present is just meaningless.
xito47 on
First one is not an example of “creativity” that’s an example of relentless practice and persuit of perfection, it takes tremendous skill and practice to achieve that, but it’s just a copy of something else, the artist dosnt add anything new to it, hence it’s not an example of creativity.
Second one in fact is creative, it’s not looking for perfection it’s an original idea made to convey a message. Artist have created an idea here, it’s not a copy of something.
But I agree with the core content of this meme, I too think that creativity is going down. Only that both your examples are wrong.
bglbogb on
FYM THE FALL OF CREATIVITY I don’t believe in that
NotAClanker69 on
As people have mentioned, you actually agree with the reason the banana on the wall was made. But also, even more fundamentally, art is _supposed_ to invoke an emotional response from you, good or bad, and that’s exactly what this has done, too.
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Feels like it is more of downfall of skill for this one
Modern art is literally just a money laundering scheme with extra steps
Yeah, after you’ve made something like in the top picture, you can make something like in the bottom one as a joke or prank. Otherwise you are just talentless pretender with no skill or wit.
still can’t believe it was sold for $6.2 million!!
People make fun of the wall banana, but I respect the wall banana, because the entire point of the wall banana was to comment on the state of modern art culture, and yet it has become the go-to example of the thing it’s meant to be caricaturing.
It’s like if somebody used a Ben Garrison comic as an example of what’s wrong with politics, not realizing that the Ben Garrison comic is supposed to be making fun of the actual events.
I don’t know. Mocking the modern art world by having cryptobros shell out millions for a banana and some duct tape seems pretty creative to me.
It’s even called ‘Comedian’. You basically have to make an effort to miss the point.
It’s ironic that you’re actually agreeing with the intentions behind the banana piece.
10/10 would eat the ‘Now’ exhibit.
I’m not a fan of modern art either, but the top picture is in no way creative, it’s impressive and made by someone incredibly skilled, but it’s literally just a person, didn’t require some great creativity.
I’d argue there’s more creativity in the abstract than in the life-like.
How much creativity do you need to replicate something 1 to 1 with real life?
How much creativity do you need to somehow give meaning to a banana duct taped to a wall?
Honestly? Simplicity is sometimes a good alternative from highly detailed art, because you may direct your attention more to what the author wanted to tell. But on the other hand when I see such jokes like shit in a can or invisible statue being recreated over, and over, and over, and bloody over again I just want to vomit. Detailed art was, is and will always be impressive, but crap like what we’re receiving today is not art but the money industry taking it from snobs. There are a lot of good artists who do simple art and it has its deep meaning. Banksy is the best example. Detail is always impressive, but to create visually simple, but meaningfully good art is a much more difficult thing.
Ever been to a contemporary art museum? – Just full of bananas.
Is “Now” in the room with us? That banana is more than a decade old.
Effort and creativity are not the same thing.
Everytime I see a meme like this, it shows nobody understands the banana; the entire point of it was to comment on the state of modern art
And yet, a banana taped to the wall is still better than AI “art” and I stand by it, at least real material were used.
It’s called minimalism.
i like the banana. its like a one big fuck you
Cherry-picking at its finest.
Stupid posts like that convinced me that people who criticise modern art in comparison to old one in majority of cases are just dumbasses, who don’t turn their brain for a second or actually engage with it honestly.
This “banana on wall” is called “comedian”, it’s a life caricature for modern art. You can easily understand it, if you look at it as an actual work of art and engaged with it.
But people don’t do it anymore. They see shit on internet and base their whole belief system on things they don’t bother to learn about.
Isn’t the “then” the less creative one out of the two tho ?
Like it’s realistic that’s for sure, but realism is the farthest thing from creativity as you don’t create anything, you copy reality.
In that aspect the banana is way more creative.
Still creativity
Sorry but your meme is literally saying the exact same thing the wall banana was saying.
People don’t like to acknowledge contemporary art as real art but unfortunately the debate around them proves it’s value *as* art because a very common objective of art is to stir up conversation to ask you a question and all that.
There is no such thing as art that doesn’t have value because there will always bs atleast one person who values a piece of art, most commonly the artist.
All Art is Art, there are no criteria for it needing to be Good or Beautiful or Intricate to count as Art, even a banana duct taped to a wall does absolutely count.
Wall Banana is just funny lol.
A banana slapped to the wall with duct tape feels very slapstick to me
Not exactly of creativity, but handicrafts
Because posts like this, i say the banana with ductape is a good art piece.
You’re confusing art and craftsmanship. Back then, a rich guy said to someone: “Make a lifelike sculpture of me, using all your craftsmanship. But make sure I look good!”
It was done because someone paid for it in advance. A commission.
The banana is art. It was simply made by the so-called artist, and only then did people find it appealing, evaluate it, and assign a price to it. And don’t forget, people paid that price for it!
You demand that one thing be good and meet your aesthetic standards because you paid for it in advance.
The other thing never claimed to please you. And you don’t have to like it. And if the artist wanted to provoke you and you are upset about this banana, the artist is happier than he could be with any amount of money.
That’s more like contrast in skill. Both may be creative endeavors.
You can still get the top one, but you can get that, or a ferrari, which would you pick?
There are thousands of realistic statues, but there was only one wall banana. Now who’s the most creative
Art is supposed to make you think, feel, discuss. And here you are.
The whole point of the banana is exactly the same as the point of your meme. It is a comment on low-effort pretentious shit, on a meaning over effort in a lot of modern art. At the same time it tackels this, by being a fucking banana on a wall. It is a metacomentary on the state of modern art. It’s a direct qiuestion of should art be beatiful or should it convey meaning?
The banana clearly emotionaly resonated with you in a way, i doubt any marble statue did. It is shit glued ot the wall, that starts a thought process. It taunts you from the wall with it’s ugliness, and yet smugly knows it made you think precisely the stuff the artist wanted you to think. The more you hate it, the more you prove it’s point about being an artipiece.
It’s a very clever thing, if you ask me.
This seems cherrypicked.
Cherry picking at its most karma farmiest
This is the case with any form of art. Theres art thats there to look pretty or set the mood, but doesnt really say anything (think video game music, paintings that present everyday objects, heck even r34, stuff you make for the sake of making it look good) and then theres art youre supposed to understand.
Though you can probably pull a message out of anything if youre creative enough, there are times where its obvious if the art isnt really trying to say anything and times where its screaming at you. Like a caricature, like this one.
Even though it’s taking the piss out of modern art!
It’s called money laundering. You can thank the Cold War, CIA and paintings by people like Jackson Pollock.
Once again we can thank the CIA for tongue-bathing the assholes of abstract and absurdist artists while relegating class-conscious art to the gutter.
Also ignores the fact that there are still excellent sculptors and carvers doing the same thing as the image today
Always glad to see the wall banana working
Old man yells at cloud
why are people still talking about the banana
its just proving the message behind it
What is so creative in trying to emulate real world?
The reason contemporary art exists in its current form is because it was stupid to try to recreate real world when photography and cinema exists.
The wall banana is arguably the more creative of these two.
Picking the best example from the past against the worst from the present is just meaningless.
First one is not an example of “creativity” that’s an example of relentless practice and persuit of perfection, it takes tremendous skill and practice to achieve that, but it’s just a copy of something else, the artist dosnt add anything new to it, hence it’s not an example of creativity.
Second one in fact is creative, it’s not looking for perfection it’s an original idea made to convey a message. Artist have created an idea here, it’s not a copy of something.
But I agree with the core content of this meme, I too think that creativity is going down. Only that both your examples are wrong.
FYM THE FALL OF CREATIVITY I don’t believe in that
As people have mentioned, you actually agree with the reason the banana on the wall was made. But also, even more fundamentally, art is _supposed_ to invoke an emotional response from you, good or bad, and that’s exactly what this has done, too.
A banana has dunked on you twice lol