The comparison of the sultans to modern population was done through [https://vahaduo.github.io/vahaduo/](https://vahaduo.github.io/vahaduo/)
The historical data used for the geneaology of the Sultans was obtained on [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sultans_of_the_Ottoman_Empire](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sultans_of_the_Ottoman_Empire)
The simulated g25 coordinates for the sultans are as follows
So, this of course doesn’t have the genetic materials of the Ottomans, right?
Bazzzookah on
Same genetic evolution happened elsewhere when conquering dynasties kept marrying local women for generations because the conquerors themselves were all male, e.g. the Normans, the Mughals, the Magyars, the Mongols.
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Wait how did you test the genes of ottoman sultans? Did you go back in time and get them to spit in a tube?
latespresso on
Is this based on the assumption that all the mothers are of their ethnicity’s pure race? If so this data makes 0 sense.
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What the hell is your source for this
Source:
the genetic data of modern populations was obtained on [https://vahaduo.github.io/g25download/](https://vahaduo.github.io/g25download/)
The comparison of the sultans to modern population was done through [https://vahaduo.github.io/vahaduo/](https://vahaduo.github.io/vahaduo/)
The historical data used for the geneaology of the Sultans was obtained on [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sultans_of_the_Ottoman_Empire](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sultans_of_the_Ottoman_Empire)
The simulated g25 coordinates for the sultans are as follows
Ottoman_Turkoman,0.088213,-0.000254,0.0001885,-0.02543625,-0.02700525,-0.010737,0.0062275,0.00461525,-0.01319175,-0.00059225,-0.00856575,0.0045335,-0.00527775,-0.0045415,-0.00010175,-0.00092825,0.00342275,0.000665,0.0047135,0.00397075,-0.00795475,-0.0019785,0.00123225,0.000934,-0.0011975
Murad_I,0.098173,0.071468,0.005751,-0.027738,0.001850,-0.004253,0.004229,0.005480,-0.005557,0.002874,0.004009,0.007463,-0.002489,-0.004724,0.006830,-0.009286,-0.004985,-0.003123,0.001280,0.005065,-0.008542,-0.005419,0.002409,0.004904,0.000968
Bayezid_I,0.1037215,0.1078365,-0.0001415,-0.0340565,0.0090805,-0.0071465,0.0037595,0.000317,-0.006051,0.01064,0.0015985,0.005455,-0.0028055,-0.0015365,-0.0035065,-0.002853,0.0063085,-0.003525,0.003531,0.0019695,-0.007827,0.001433,-0.001014,0.0040185,-0.005324
Mehmed_I_Proxy,0.11355275,0.12429425,0.00547275,-0.02571675,0.01614225,-0.00705925,0.00439425,0.001497,-0.0030665,0.01168,0.00083175,0.004361,-0.00207175,0.00168125,-0.01016775,-0.0020365,0.00698775,-0.0012935,0.0064915,-0.00089125,-0.007108,0.0024355,0.000713,0.00246725,-0.0053445
Murad_II,0.10088288,0.06202013,0.00283063,-0.0255765,-0.0054315,-0.00889813,0.00531088,0.00305613,-0.00812913,0.00554388,-0.003867,0.00444725,-0.00367475,-0.00143013,-0.00513475,-0.00148238,0.00520525,-0.00031425,0.0056025,0.00153975,-0.00753138,0.0002285,0.00097263,0.00170063,-0.003271
Mehmed_II,0.11213344,0.10138606,0.00695881,-0.02147675,0.00888625,-0.00793506,0.00516994,0.00286656,-0.00410556,0.00913194,-0.001901,0.00385713,-0.00250638,0.00173444,-0.01098188,-0.00135119,0.00643613,0.00031188,0.00752725,-0.00110613,-0.00696019,0.00183325,0.00170631,0.00130831,-0.004318
Bayezid_II,0.11753122,0.12533453,0.00555341,-0.02301238,0.01906113,-0.00954553,0.00411247,0.00235628,0.00183322,0.01094447,-0.0005445,0.00297757,-0.00385469,0.00554622,-0.01322694,-0.0052501,0.00008907,0.00243644,0.01042563,-0.00618057,-0.0059131,0.00202963,0.00344116,-0.00115335,-0.005452
Selim_I_Proxy,0.11453911,0.12918427,-0.02249030,-0.04235269,-0.00293344,-0.01704377,0.00370124,-0.00205236,-0.01565039,0.00638324,0.00216375,0.00471079,-0.00690735,0.00504411,-0.01217797,-0.00189605,0.01288754,-0.00030228,0.00131632,-0.00152729,-0.00027355,0.00175682,-0.00025142,0.00159233,-0.00332450
Suleiman_I_Proxy,0.11896155,0.13496813,-0.00570165,-0.02986485,0.01013528,-0.01200789,0.00436512,0.00031232,-0.00786619,0.00955162,0.00111438,0.00398889,-0.00412268,0.00497155,-0.01450348,-0.00155803,0.01027727,0.00031786,0.00538416,-0.00263965,-0.00333127,0.00259741,0.00109429,0.00125416,-0.00434475
Selim_II_Proxy,0.12606728,0.12993907,0.03109018,0.01171508,0.02630214,0.00473356,0.00794056,0.01107516,-0.00168310,-0.00242269,-0.00277181,-0.00190206,0.00299316,0.01445878,-0.01301974,-0.00190602,0.00500814,-0.00015757,0.00212658,0.00080618,-0.00597064,-0.00185430,0.00251915,-0.00202392,-0.00390888
Murad_III_Proxy,0.12848214,0.13910304,0.02742459,0.00182004,0.03053907,0.00445828,0.00502778,0.00542208,0.00222645,0.00917616,-0.00585141,0.00189647,-0.00772042,0.00358239,-0.01030987,0.00123449,0.00765407,0.00296172,0.00433129,0.00052809,-0.00304782,0.00166935,0.00101308,-0.00299996,-0.00189444
Mehmed_III_Proxy,0.12286007,0.14317752,0.02050030,-0.01071798,0.02619454,-0.00265136,0.00274889,0.00386504,0.00397673,0.01524908,-0.00243871,0.00154774,-0.00646171,0.00798420,-0.01350194,-0.00170326,0.01112854,0.00186086,0.00480515,-0.00236246,-0.00763791,0.00003118,0.00099954,-0.00101798,-0.00136622
Ahmed_I_Proxy,0.12574004,0.13962926,0.03476315,0.00513851,0.03110077,0.00453082,0.00536945,0.00435552,0.00260187,0.00662204,-0.00219386,-0.00139913,-0.00122386,0.0112861,-0.01231547,-0.00204513,0.01084477,-0.00097007,0.00510508,0.00125727,-0.00712546,-0.00350841,0.00395077,-0.00014749,-0.00415561
Murad_IV_Ibrahim_I_Proxy,0.11693602,0.14039413,0.01059357,-0.01907174,0.01908938,-0.00233609,0.00374222,0.00298526,-0.00176707,0.01479202,0.00028357,-0.00062456,-0.00306493,0.00853305,-0.01056873,-0.00089006,0.01213738,-0.00010503,0.00619754,-0.00199786,-0.00693173,-0.00354720,0.00185238,-0.00073625,0.00004230
So, this of course doesn’t have the genetic materials of the Ottomans, right?
Same genetic evolution happened elsewhere when conquering dynasties kept marrying local women for generations because the conquerors themselves were all male, e.g. the Normans, the Mughals, the Magyars, the Mongols.
Wait how did you test the genes of ottoman sultans? Did you go back in time and get them to spit in a tube?
Is this based on the assumption that all the mothers are of their ethnicity’s pure race? If so this data makes 0 sense.
Surely the Y chromosome would remain ottoman
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