I find it very interesting that every time she said his name she said shut up.
Alien_Overlords on
A measured and sane response.
e92ftw on
As a person who doesn’t have TS and is not an expert on the subject, I’ll take her word for it and continue to be disappointed with the network for allowing the word to be uncensored.
Also free Palestine.
Noelle-Spades on
[Another link.](https://www.instagram.com/p/DVHrLAFjXFm/) Please do not harass this person if you disagree with her. I thought it’d be nice to share a perspective from someone with insight from both sides, having the neurological disorder and being a black person.
Personally I think the fault is on BBC entirely They could’ve done more to prevent this and address the situation. -And by prevent I don’t mean seperate seating or whatever bs people on Twitter suggested, I mean editing out the clip from the aired show so that no one would be harrassed online. Since they don’t want any ‘political’ statements being shared they should’ve made the effort to edit out an actual slur too. They should not have expected contemproary audiences to extend the same grace the actors in the room did, or that people would watch the whole show with the warnings they added to the program.
I’ve seen a lot of misinformation, disinformation, and ableism, I’ve also seen a lot of people using this whole bs as an excuse to mitigate black people’s experience and whether or not we ‘get’ to be offended over the word at all, because apparently it’s ‘just a word’ and ‘intent matters more than anything else’. (Intent does not change impact). I hate both sides of that extreme. I think the whole thing sucks and that BBC is the main party at fault. It is projectiong the humiliation of black men and subjecting a disabled man to misinformed harrassment and is doing nothing to help either party, let alone a formal acknowledgement or apology. I feel like two things can be true, that what he said was offensive to people who have a right to be upset, and that his condition is serious and needs to be understood, I don’t think people should use either stance to mitigate the other side or act as though one has no standing, or that one is more important or morally correct than the other.
Edit: I just wanted to add some resources about Tourettes syndrome so people can get a better understanding of it. I’ve seen a lot of misinformtion and bad faith disinformation so far, I just want to point people in the right places:
Here’s a Twitch Streamer with Tourettes if you want to see a real life example, please don’t harass her, just take a moment to see how she’s affected:
Note, my inclusion of these is not me attributing that man to be a racist. I don’t have a reason to think he is a legitimate one. I added these because I feel like this is an opportunity for everyone who argues that there should be no offense taken is part of the problem. Do not remove the nuance or tell people how to feel. And don’t use that man’s tic as a shield or vantage point to express your prejudice about black people’s feelings.
Candy_floss_21 on
Very interesting that there’s been more discourse and defence of the man that shouted the N word than the two black men that were on stage at the time
Dreams-Visions on
Bless her heart. That video was clearly very difficult for her to get through and just wanted to give her a hug by the end. I hate that anyone has to manage something like this and it’s easy to imagine how difficult and dangerous this makes their lives. Not even having and holding onto friends and significant others, but just going outside. What happens if someone like this sees a cop and tic’s that they have a gun? Or blurts out something on the street that someone takes special exception to? Copious amounts of empathy are needed. I’d offer all the hugs in my arsenal if I could.
BBC and BAFTA knew what they were doing when they put that mic near him. They got what they wanted, at the expense of everyone else.
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BillAdministrative61 on
I know this is a mature an sensitive topic… so imma just stop right now
Beachcurrency on
No thoughts. I appreciate her take, and I definitely want to hear more Black folks with Tourettes talk about their experience. But outside of that, I still have two questions about this whole situation. The first is: [why did they (the BAFTAs) knowingly sit a man, with Tourettes that presents with slurs, near a microphone](https://people.com/john-davidson-baftas-tourettes-incident-questions-seated-near-microphone-11913879)? And why did they use the video delay to bleep out a Black man saying “Free Palestine”, but not the N-word?
I don’t have any comments or thoughts about Tourettes or how it presents because I don’t know enough, and I’m still learning. But the way the BAFTA’s moved in this whole situation isn’t sitting right in my spirit…
ShadowForPresident on
Damn she cute, but naw my problem is with the BBC and how they couldve cut this shit out like they did the “free palestine” statement
212cncpts on
Did anyone watch the Baftas? Were any of his other tics picked up on mic like this?
mgquantitysquared on
The out-and-proud ableism in some of the responses I’ve seen has been crazy. I’m glad this creator made this video, so many people are being willfully ignorant about Tourettes regarding this.
Hopefully we can all realize that the BBC sucks for not censoring correctly, the tic was 100% involuntary, and it’s awful that they had to hear that slur at all, let alone during an event meant to honor them and their artistry.
PsychologicalSon on
The thing is, if I have a disability that causes me to do things I am unable to control. I’d make every attempt I could to keep it from inconveniencing other people. Accidents happen, apologies get made after.
In this case I’d have probably invested in one of those voice dampening/soundproof masks . Or communicated what accommodation was necessary to prevent potential issues.
fumblebucket on
If saying that word involuntarily was so bad. Then this word shouldn’t be accepted at all in any spaces. No matter who says the word. Its very rare to have this level of a taboo word also be used so predominantly within the culture. We don’t have this same problem with other unmentionable slurs. Someone with tourettes being accused of ‘already having this negative thought and idea in place’ is so disingenuous. Considering how common it is to have this word said in popular media and also in real life by our peers.
philium1 on
Jesus that looks tough to live with
StrugglesTheClown on
Went to school with several people with Tourette’s. The worst tick one of them had was rocking back and forth shacking his head side to side and repeatedly saying “mother fucker, mother fucker”. After and hour of it, it just turned into background noise. I really feel for the uncontrollable nature of the affliction. No one wants this.
kissyb on
The network is to blame. People can talk and talk until the end of time they obviously didn’t care enough to censor and they fear no consequences because it’s a do now and fake apologies (if there are consequences) later kind of society we live in.
DisastrousSpot5142 on
I have a friend with Tourettes, and theirs can sometimes be “we need to get out of public” extreme. They would much rather not be shouting offensive things, and people definitely need to learn more information on Tourettes that isn’t 2020-esque.
Adulations on
I agree with her my only thought is that while the dude has Tourette’s and I fully believe it want intentional he should still fully acknowledge and apologize for the harm it caused. His response was very weak.
eccojams97 on
The fact people with tourettes still have to explain themselves and the lack of empathy to this whole situation has been wild
d_repz on
Yes, the audience was pre-warned. But they were not pre-warned that Mr Davidson might use a racist slur, let’s be clear about that.
All faults lie with the BBC and BAFTA, more so after they were informed by Warner Bros within minutes of the offending word being said and told to edit it out, but didn’t. Yet they somehow found time to edit ‘free Palestine’ from the acceptance speech of an award recipient (who happened to be Black, by the way).
Changalator on
I don’t really know much about Tourette’s but is there any reason why the tics are usually some curse or taboo words? Why isn’t the tics be any other random words?
cbk_6 on
Ngl… that whistle was clean asf tho lol
OkInvestigator_2100 on
Honestly I was never offended by his tics or what he said. I was always upset that BAFTA set everyone up there for failure. He left after this incident but BAFTA didn’t have to air the incidents as they didn’t air “free Palestine”. They picked and chose to continue to aide and promote racism.
Erisian23 on
Idc wtf your tick is you can still apologize. That goes for Bafta, the BBC and dude with ticks. It’s not that hard. Apologize to them and to the world for what happened. Then explain the situation. Common courtesy.
Squid_Inkk on
Good for you. Thank you for sharing
HappiPipo on
Issue here is that the network allowed it to air when they could have muted it. Noone except those present live would have known and the poor guy would have been spared all this. The baftas’s decisions to not screen the Nword and yet screen “free palestine” shows how racism and anti-blackness if tolerated. We cannot keep letting people get away with this.
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No excuses. Zero tolerance.
I find it very interesting that every time she said his name she said shut up.
A measured and sane response.
As a person who doesn’t have TS and is not an expert on the subject, I’ll take her word for it and continue to be disappointed with the network for allowing the word to be uncensored.
Also free Palestine.
[Another link.](https://www.instagram.com/p/DVHrLAFjXFm/) Please do not harass this person if you disagree with her. I thought it’d be nice to share a perspective from someone with insight from both sides, having the neurological disorder and being a black person.
Personally I think the fault is on BBC entirely They could’ve done more to prevent this and address the situation. -And by prevent I don’t mean seperate seating or whatever bs people on Twitter suggested, I mean editing out the clip from the aired show so that no one would be harrassed online. Since they don’t want any ‘political’ statements being shared they should’ve made the effort to edit out an actual slur too. They should not have expected contemproary audiences to extend the same grace the actors in the room did, or that people would watch the whole show with the warnings they added to the program.
I’ve seen a lot of misinformation, disinformation, and ableism, I’ve also seen a lot of people using this whole bs as an excuse to mitigate black people’s experience and whether or not we ‘get’ to be offended over the word at all, because apparently it’s ‘just a word’ and ‘intent matters more than anything else’. (Intent does not change impact). I hate both sides of that extreme. I think the whole thing sucks and that BBC is the main party at fault. It is projectiong the humiliation of black men and subjecting a disabled man to misinformed harrassment and is doing nothing to help either party, let alone a formal acknowledgement or apology. I feel like two things can be true, that what he said was offensive to people who have a right to be upset, and that his condition is serious and needs to be understood, I don’t think people should use either stance to mitigate the other side or act as though one has no standing, or that one is more important or morally correct than the other.
Edit: I just wanted to add some resources about Tourettes syndrome so people can get a better understanding of it. I’ve seen a lot of misinformtion and bad faith disinformation so far, I just want to point people in the right places:
Here’s a Twitch Streamer with Tourettes if you want to see a real life example, please don’t harass her, just take a moment to see how she’s affected:
[Sweet Anita](https://www.youtube.com/@SweetAnita/videos) – [Attacked With Bananas](https://youtu.be/o-0G3SaTcWE?t=401)
[Tourette Association of America](https://tourette.org/about-tourette/overview/what-is-tourette/)
From the [National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke](https://www.ninds.nih.gov/health-information/disorders/tourette-syndrome)
And for the bad faith actors lurking here who think I’m absolving the racism that popped up from this whole bullshit, I have links for you too:
An instagram video about [Hyperawareness in the Black Community](https://www.instagram.com/p/DVJQFgpkfX7) and not trusting the unknown
An article from [The Root](https://www.theroot.com/why-black-folks-are-i-always-i-expected-to-extend-gr-2000091239)
[Fostering Empathy: The Prerequisite for Racial Justice in an Unequal America](https://racism.org/articles/defining-racism/stereotypes-bias-and-racism/378-anti-racism/12679-fostering-empathy)
Note, my inclusion of these is not me attributing that man to be a racist. I don’t have a reason to think he is a legitimate one. I added these because I feel like this is an opportunity for everyone who argues that there should be no offense taken is part of the problem. Do not remove the nuance or tell people how to feel. And don’t use that man’s tic as a shield or vantage point to express your prejudice about black people’s feelings.
Very interesting that there’s been more discourse and defence of the man that shouted the N word than the two black men that were on stage at the time
Bless her heart. That video was clearly very difficult for her to get through and just wanted to give her a hug by the end. I hate that anyone has to manage something like this and it’s easy to imagine how difficult and dangerous this makes their lives. Not even having and holding onto friends and significant others, but just going outside. What happens if someone like this sees a cop and tic’s that they have a gun? Or blurts out something on the street that someone takes special exception to? Copious amounts of empathy are needed. I’d offer all the hugs in my arsenal if I could.
BBC and BAFTA knew what they were doing when they put that mic near him. They got what they wanted, at the expense of everyone else.
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I know this is a mature an sensitive topic… so imma just stop right now
No thoughts. I appreciate her take, and I definitely want to hear more Black folks with Tourettes talk about their experience. But outside of that, I still have two questions about this whole situation. The first is: [why did they (the BAFTAs) knowingly sit a man, with Tourettes that presents with slurs, near a microphone](https://people.com/john-davidson-baftas-tourettes-incident-questions-seated-near-microphone-11913879)? And why did they use the video delay to bleep out a Black man saying “Free Palestine”, but not the N-word?
I don’t have any comments or thoughts about Tourettes or how it presents because I don’t know enough, and I’m still learning. But the way the BAFTA’s moved in this whole situation isn’t sitting right in my spirit…
Damn she cute, but naw my problem is with the BBC and how they couldve cut this shit out like they did the “free palestine” statement
Did anyone watch the Baftas? Were any of his other tics picked up on mic like this?
The out-and-proud ableism in some of the responses I’ve seen has been crazy. I’m glad this creator made this video, so many people are being willfully ignorant about Tourettes regarding this.
Hopefully we can all realize that the BBC sucks for not censoring correctly, the tic was 100% involuntary, and it’s awful that they had to hear that slur at all, let alone during an event meant to honor them and their artistry.
The thing is, if I have a disability that causes me to do things I am unable to control. I’d make every attempt I could to keep it from inconveniencing other people. Accidents happen, apologies get made after.
In this case I’d have probably invested in one of those voice dampening/soundproof masks . Or communicated what accommodation was necessary to prevent potential issues.
If saying that word involuntarily was so bad. Then this word shouldn’t be accepted at all in any spaces. No matter who says the word. Its very rare to have this level of a taboo word also be used so predominantly within the culture. We don’t have this same problem with other unmentionable slurs. Someone with tourettes being accused of ‘already having this negative thought and idea in place’ is so disingenuous. Considering how common it is to have this word said in popular media and also in real life by our peers.
Jesus that looks tough to live with
Went to school with several people with Tourette’s. The worst tick one of them had was rocking back and forth shacking his head side to side and repeatedly saying “mother fucker, mother fucker”. After and hour of it, it just turned into background noise. I really feel for the uncontrollable nature of the affliction. No one wants this.
The network is to blame. People can talk and talk until the end of time they obviously didn’t care enough to censor and they fear no consequences because it’s a do now and fake apologies (if there are consequences) later kind of society we live in.
I have a friend with Tourettes, and theirs can sometimes be “we need to get out of public” extreme. They would much rather not be shouting offensive things, and people definitely need to learn more information on Tourettes that isn’t 2020-esque.
I agree with her my only thought is that while the dude has Tourette’s and I fully believe it want intentional he should still fully acknowledge and apologize for the harm it caused. His response was very weak.
The fact people with tourettes still have to explain themselves and the lack of empathy to this whole situation has been wild
Yes, the audience was pre-warned. But they were not pre-warned that Mr Davidson might use a racist slur, let’s be clear about that.
All faults lie with the BBC and BAFTA, more so after they were informed by Warner Bros within minutes of the offending word being said and told to edit it out, but didn’t. Yet they somehow found time to edit ‘free Palestine’ from the acceptance speech of an award recipient (who happened to be Black, by the way).
I don’t really know much about Tourette’s but is there any reason why the tics are usually some curse or taboo words? Why isn’t the tics be any other random words?
Ngl… that whistle was clean asf tho lol
Honestly I was never offended by his tics or what he said. I was always upset that BAFTA set everyone up there for failure. He left after this incident but BAFTA didn’t have to air the incidents as they didn’t air “free Palestine”. They picked and chose to continue to aide and promote racism.
Idc wtf your tick is you can still apologize. That goes for Bafta, the BBC and dude with ticks. It’s not that hard. Apologize to them and to the world for what happened. Then explain the situation. Common courtesy.
Good for you. Thank you for sharing
Issue here is that the network allowed it to air when they could have muted it. Noone except those present live would have known and the poor guy would have been spared all this. The baftas’s decisions to not screen the Nword and yet screen “free palestine” shows how racism and anti-blackness if tolerated. We cannot keep letting people get away with this.