No but it did prove we shouldn’t use airships filled with combustible gas.
WastelandOutlaw007 on
Not a very god example, as it did prove we should stop using hydrogen as the filler.
So you could say it showed we shouldn’t use uranium
That said, Im still pro nuclear power over oil/coal.
PinkPlum_ on
Apparently, we only quit things if they don’t glow in the dark.
Lopsided_Shift_4464 on
Considering we pretty much stopped using airships, this is a bad example. A better analogy would be “Should we stop using boats because of the titanic?”
Tomytom99 on
We all stopped using coal after lethal mine collapses, right?
norablues on
Context and scale matter
Imicus on
Hindenburg did prove a few things;
Fixed-wing > passenger airship travel
Helium > Hydrogen ~~as a fuel source~~ for buoyancy.
So in a way, Hindenburg *did* prove we should not do air travel (by highly flammable blimps/zeppelins anyway)
Starchaser53 on
Chernobyl was mismanaged to hell and back. It’s not the nuclear energies fault for doing it’s job
Material-Box-7873 on
Technology evolves by fixing failures rather than quitting, especially when the potential benefits are massive
Illum503 on
We did stop that method of air travel so this terrible analogy is more like saying we should abandon all power generation after Chernobyl
Particular-School795 on
What’s up with edge lords being so into nuclear?
MurphyRedBeard on
This is an extra bad take.
Sylassian on
While I agree with the sentiment, the example you’re using is pretty bad considering the Hindenburg convinced us to completely change (among other things) the type of *fuel* we use to do the thing we wanted to keep on doing.
NoWingedHussarsToday on
Imagine you want a pizza. You call delivery and place an order. They tell you it will be 30 dollars and will be there in 30 minutes. It arrives after two hours and it’s 50 dollars. That’s how construction of nuclear power plants is done now.
art-is-t on
Shit post
BusyBeeBridgette on
Chernobyl is proof you shouldn’t use cheap materials when making an RMBK reactor is all.
EnergyHumble3613 on
What Chernobyl proved was that if you build something with the potential to do great harm if it exploded… don’t omit safety information in training to hide a potentially dangerous scenario that could arise due to the use of cheap parts.
jcstrat on
Chernobyl was just proof that we need to follow the regulations we ourselves established.
Titswari on
I’m a big fan of nuclear energy and believe we need to transition to it heavily, as it’s the most efficient and cleanest of energy resources, but this is a terrible example.
The Hindenburg disaster killed 36 people, Chernobyl is still unlivable. It’s like comparing a gunshot wound to a firebombing campaign.
UnbelieverInME-2 on
No.
It proved we shouldn’t use hydrogen to accomplish air travel.
sA1atji on
we stopped using airships…
Rook_James_Bitch on
Ah, good ol’ False Equivalence rears it’s stupid head on Reddit again.
I remember when Reddit used to have hoards of intelligent people on it.
Bane8080 on
Drowning is proof that we shouldn’t put water in our mouths.
Foxwasahero on
The Hindenburg just showed us that going to New Jersey is always a bad idea
benNachtheim on
The problem was never Chernobyl or other disasters beyond all expectations. The problem was always the nuclear waste. It has to be stored for 1 million years.
I do not trust humans in 1000 or 10,000 let alone 100,000 years to understand what they need to do with our nuclear waste to be safe.
Also, whenever the costs for nuclear energy are calculated, they do not comprise the true costs because a) nuclear plants are not insured and the risk is paid by the tax payer and b) the next 4 million generations have to pay for potential issues with the nuclear waste.
SLiiQ_ on
Chernobyl WAS proof that cutting corners and keeping secrets have no place within a nuclear power plant
Grand_Raccoon0923 on
We definitely stopped using dirigibles filled with hydrogen…
Cheyruz on
This is honestly the exact dumbest example for this argument. Did you sabotage yourself on purpose?
DarkCrasher99 on
Well, hydrogen-filled airships are no more in use, as far as i can recall
Live_Life_and_enjoy on
We literally stopped using Hydrogen Filled Blimps
KFChero1 on
Chernobyl was caused by underfunding by the USSR and equipment failure on-site, not the uranium itself
We should oppose badly run nuclear power plants instead
MasterOfWarCrimes on
i mean its been proven that chernobyl became what it is now because of shitty design, operator error, and poor maintenance and its also been proven that nuclear power is safe if you arent the ussr.
ultrainstict on
Also notably chernobyl occured because the people maintaining it had no idea what they were doing, no one present had any idea what the technology was nor were they involved in making the reactor. And even then had they done nothing the crisis would have been substantially smaller but in among their mistakes was disabling safety feature that would have prevented the disaster.
If anything chernobyl stands as a testament to the safety of nuclear technology as they literally had to do every single thing wrong for that to have occurred.
Teranas on
People in this thread pretending Chernobyl was the only catastrophic nuclear failure while 15 years ago a tsunami caused a decent part of Japan to become inhabitable that needed to be recovered in an insane effort with huge workforce. Lets stick to the most expensive sources of energy instead of safe green energy. Makes sense.
maschine02 on
I was always confused by the anti nuclear people after Chernobyl. Like do they not realize how shitty things were built in the USSR back then and how the communist structure meant that it was better to ignore problems than get disappeared to the gulag??
kurinevair666 on
Honestly, that’s fucked up as this is going sound, Chernobyl taught us a lot about nuclear safety that was completely overlooked.
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No but it did prove we shouldn’t use airships filled with combustible gas.
Not a very god example, as it did prove we should stop using hydrogen as the filler.
So you could say it showed we shouldn’t use uranium
That said, Im still pro nuclear power over oil/coal.
Apparently, we only quit things if they don’t glow in the dark.
Considering we pretty much stopped using airships, this is a bad example. A better analogy would be “Should we stop using boats because of the titanic?”
We all stopped using coal after lethal mine collapses, right?
Context and scale matter
Hindenburg did prove a few things;
Fixed-wing > passenger airship travel
Helium > Hydrogen ~~as a fuel source~~ for buoyancy.
So in a way, Hindenburg *did* prove we should not do air travel (by highly flammable blimps/zeppelins anyway)
Chernobyl was mismanaged to hell and back. It’s not the nuclear energies fault for doing it’s job
Technology evolves by fixing failures rather than quitting, especially when the potential benefits are massive
We did stop that method of air travel so this terrible analogy is more like saying we should abandon all power generation after Chernobyl
What’s up with edge lords being so into nuclear?
This is an extra bad take.
While I agree with the sentiment, the example you’re using is pretty bad considering the Hindenburg convinced us to completely change (among other things) the type of *fuel* we use to do the thing we wanted to keep on doing.
Imagine you want a pizza. You call delivery and place an order. They tell you it will be 30 dollars and will be there in 30 minutes. It arrives after two hours and it’s 50 dollars. That’s how construction of nuclear power plants is done now.
Shit post
Chernobyl is proof you shouldn’t use cheap materials when making an RMBK reactor is all.
What Chernobyl proved was that if you build something with the potential to do great harm if it exploded… don’t omit safety information in training to hide a potentially dangerous scenario that could arise due to the use of cheap parts.
Chernobyl was just proof that we need to follow the regulations we ourselves established.
I’m a big fan of nuclear energy and believe we need to transition to it heavily, as it’s the most efficient and cleanest of energy resources, but this is a terrible example.
The Hindenburg disaster killed 36 people, Chernobyl is still unlivable. It’s like comparing a gunshot wound to a firebombing campaign.
No.
It proved we shouldn’t use hydrogen to accomplish air travel.
we stopped using airships…
Ah, good ol’ False Equivalence rears it’s stupid head on Reddit again.
I remember when Reddit used to have hoards of intelligent people on it.
Drowning is proof that we shouldn’t put water in our mouths.
The Hindenburg just showed us that going to New Jersey is always a bad idea
The problem was never Chernobyl or other disasters beyond all expectations. The problem was always the nuclear waste. It has to be stored for 1 million years.
I do not trust humans in 1000 or 10,000 let alone 100,000 years to understand what they need to do with our nuclear waste to be safe.
Also, whenever the costs for nuclear energy are calculated, they do not comprise the true costs because a) nuclear plants are not insured and the risk is paid by the tax payer and b) the next 4 million generations have to pay for potential issues with the nuclear waste.
Chernobyl WAS proof that cutting corners and keeping secrets have no place within a nuclear power plant
We definitely stopped using dirigibles filled with hydrogen…
This is honestly the exact dumbest example for this argument. Did you sabotage yourself on purpose?
Well, hydrogen-filled airships are no more in use, as far as i can recall
We literally stopped using Hydrogen Filled Blimps
Chernobyl was caused by underfunding by the USSR and equipment failure on-site, not the uranium itself
We should oppose badly run nuclear power plants instead
i mean its been proven that chernobyl became what it is now because of shitty design, operator error, and poor maintenance and its also been proven that nuclear power is safe if you arent the ussr.
Also notably chernobyl occured because the people maintaining it had no idea what they were doing, no one present had any idea what the technology was nor were they involved in making the reactor. And even then had they done nothing the crisis would have been substantially smaller but in among their mistakes was disabling safety feature that would have prevented the disaster.
If anything chernobyl stands as a testament to the safety of nuclear technology as they literally had to do every single thing wrong for that to have occurred.
People in this thread pretending Chernobyl was the only catastrophic nuclear failure while 15 years ago a tsunami caused a decent part of Japan to become inhabitable that needed to be recovered in an insane effort with huge workforce. Lets stick to the most expensive sources of energy instead of safe green energy. Makes sense.
I was always confused by the anti nuclear people after Chernobyl. Like do they not realize how shitty things were built in the USSR back then and how the communist structure meant that it was better to ignore problems than get disappeared to the gulag??
Honestly, that’s fucked up as this is going sound, Chernobyl taught us a lot about nuclear safety that was completely overlooked.
We abandoned hydrogen after the Hindenburg