Why the hell would you trigger an Industrial Revolution with all of the problems It takes when you can just make kebab and chill with your habibis?
NugKnights on
It takes more than just a concept.
We needed better metals and ways to forge strong lasting parts to make something like a train.
mariosx12 on
More like 200 BC.
EnzoRaffa16 on
Like another post here said:
Making a steam engine is easy, the hard part is making it do something useful enough to warrant making an entire society’s production output centered around it.
ammar96 on
*Sigh
Just now I saw a meme about steam engine in Roman empire and people were discussing it was still a problem to kickstart IR and now I saw another meme about this but in Ottoman. Even worse, it’s a repost.
Noktisk on
This is like saying: we had algorithms and logic built in computers since the fifties, why didn’t they start LLM’s back then?
xoolixz on
no it fucking couldn’t have.
they didn’t have the many different raw materials needed in the amount that they were needed, they didn’t have the international access to sell the goods that they can’t make, they didn’t have a large enough group of highly educated people to manage all the people making and selling the things they couldn’t make or sell, they didn’t have a robust and efficient enough agriculture to supporting a growing population and allow them not to work in that agriculture in order to do other things like build machines, produce materials, sell said things or organize other people, all of which they couldn’t have done anyway.
wnted_dread_or_alive on
“the romans where like 75 years away from having an industrial revolution man!”
HillInTheDistance on
Without food, we starve and die.
Döner Kebab is food.
If the food is improperly cooked, we’re poisoned, and die.
We are not dead.
Thus we had food.
Properly rotated food.
Praised Be the Döner Man.
MrMr_sir_sir on
The Industrial Revolution couldn’t happen without the liberalization of society, and the division of labor that proto-capitalism produced.
Numerous_Problems on
The tap/valve seems a bit modern. Maybe not made as an exact replica. Horizontal rotisserie (cağ kebab) in the early 17th century vertical rotisserie (döner kebab) in the 19th century
Knight_Castellan on
The Industrial Revolution could pretty much have begun multiple times over the last 2000 years. The knowledge and industry required to make primitive steam engines has been around (intermittently) since the time of the ancient Greeks. The problem is that a combination of disinterest, power politics, lack of intellectual input, and economic factors all contributed to it just… not happening.
It wasn’t until 18th century Britain, during the Enlightenment, where the right combination of factors occured to kick-start industrialisation.
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Why the hell would you trigger an Industrial Revolution with all of the problems It takes when you can just make kebab and chill with your habibis?
It takes more than just a concept.
We needed better metals and ways to forge strong lasting parts to make something like a train.
More like 200 BC.
Like another post here said:
Making a steam engine is easy, the hard part is making it do something useful enough to warrant making an entire society’s production output centered around it.
*Sigh
Just now I saw a meme about steam engine in Roman empire and people were discussing it was still a problem to kickstart IR and now I saw another meme about this but in Ottoman. Even worse, it’s a repost.
This is like saying: we had algorithms and logic built in computers since the fifties, why didn’t they start LLM’s back then?
no it fucking couldn’t have.
they didn’t have the many different raw materials needed in the amount that they were needed, they didn’t have the international access to sell the goods that they can’t make, they didn’t have a large enough group of highly educated people to manage all the people making and selling the things they couldn’t make or sell, they didn’t have a robust and efficient enough agriculture to supporting a growing population and allow them not to work in that agriculture in order to do other things like build machines, produce materials, sell said things or organize other people, all of which they couldn’t have done anyway.
“the romans where like 75 years away from having an industrial revolution man!”
Without food, we starve and die.
Döner Kebab is food.
If the food is improperly cooked, we’re poisoned, and die.
We are not dead.
Thus we had food.
Properly rotated food.
Praised Be the Döner Man.
The Industrial Revolution couldn’t happen without the liberalization of society, and the division of labor that proto-capitalism produced.
The tap/valve seems a bit modern. Maybe not made as an exact replica. Horizontal rotisserie (cağ kebab) in the early 17th century vertical rotisserie (döner kebab) in the 19th century
The Industrial Revolution could pretty much have begun multiple times over the last 2000 years. The knowledge and industry required to make primitive steam engines has been around (intermittently) since the time of the ancient Greeks. The problem is that a combination of disinterest, power politics, lack of intellectual input, and economic factors all contributed to it just… not happening.
It wasn’t until 18th century Britain, during the Enlightenment, where the right combination of factors occured to kick-start industrialisation.