And now the murder victim from ICE was “deranged” on top of being a domestic terrorist. This is the Vice President of the United States. THEY ARE LYING TO YOU.
Pushing the false narratives as fast and far as they can.
Bulky_Specialist9645 on
The ICE agent committed murder. His actions were in total violation of DOJ rules.
“U.S. DOJ Policy on Use of Force Title 1, firearms cannot be discharged solely to disable moving vehicles and are only permissible if an occupant threatens with deadly force by means other than the vehicle, or if the vehicle itself poses a deadly threat and no other defense exists. Deliberately positioning oneself in the path of a moving vehicle is considered officer-created jeopardy, invalidating any claim of necessary deadly force.”
Melodic_Mulberry on
And a communist, and a professional protester, and a “carpet muncher”, and…
Anxious-Raspberry-54 on
Isn’t it great that our Vice-President doesn’t know how to capitalize?
AdFluffy9286 on
I’m just so tired of this political theatre. A masked thug murdered an innocent woman in the middle of the day. I don’t want to argue whether she “should’ve complied” or “her tires were indicating she was reversing”. She was murdered. This is state sanctioned murder. Anyone saying otherwise is just lying because they don’t want to admit how bad things are in this country right now, or they don’t care.
Sorry for the rant, but I am just so sick of all this.
Admirable-Sink-2622 on
The media beholden to the right?
Jesus just fuck a couch already! 🙄
SaltyZookeepergame46 on
Doing all they can to get the hot war started. Epstein files are too much and the midterms scare the shit out of them. They had to do something.
Mum0817 on
What an utterly loathsome piece of fucking shit.
Biting my goddamn tongue so hard right now.
kingdazy on
lol “ask them this one simple highly biased question”
Strawhat_Max on
#YES, I UNABASHEDLY SAY HE WAS, ANYBODY WITH EYES WILL WATCH THAT VIDEO AND SEE HE WAS WRONG, WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON
reddurkel on
Attention Republicans:
If anything ever happens to you, the government will say it’s you’re fault.
Cancer from power plant.
Lead in water.
School shooting.
Insufficient healthcare.
Loss of job.
Measles.
Military draft.
Getting shot for being near masked men.
It’s clear now that the government you wanted to attack brown people is now the government that will attack all people.
Accept what you did to us. Suck it up and vote against republicans next time.
And for the 34% that didn’t vote. Both sides are not the same and you’re an idiot.
CanEverythingNotSuck on
Yes. The officer was wrong to murder that woman. Done. Answered.
Randy_Watson on
From the DHS Policy on the Use of Force (February 2023), Section V, Part B (“Moving Vehicles”):
“Firearms should not be discharged at a stationary or moving vehicle, the occupants of a vehicle, or the tires of a vehicle unless a person in the vehicle is imminently threatening a Department member or another person present with deadly force by means other than the moving vehicle. The moving vehicle itself shall not presumptively constitute a threat that justifies the use of deadly force. Department members shall not move into, remain, or otherwise position themselves in the path of a vehicle in an effort to detain or apprehend the occupants. A Department member in the path of a moving vehicle shall immediately attempt to move to a position of safety rather than discharging a firearm.”
Now please talk about those J6 pardons and the rewrite on the white house website.
Nivosus on
What JD Vance is clearly saying here is: “Politicians should hold zero restrictions on any actions that police, agents, or anybody emboldened by the federal government with a gun does. If they kill somebody, you must be okay with it, if you are not, you are not fit for office.”
JD Vance wants unquestioned free range slaughter of US citizens and for everybody to accept it and be complacent.
Feeling real 1939 up in here.
JA860 on
Yes because this was murder
Aurizen_Darkstar on
This is standard for authoritarian regimes. Make the person who was killed into the enemy, even when it’s obvious that the person killed was innocent of any crime.
Ylfrettub-79 on
Shame on vance (lowercase intentional) …. He knows better but this is yet another role he’s playing. He has no guiding principles whatsoever and blows whichever way he perceives is beneficial to him. And that’s what makes him terrifying if Cankles exits stage left (25th amendment, death etc) and he becomes the regime’s new leader. I still say he doesn’t have the sway or control over the MAGAts but… MAGAts have proven to be emotionally malleable and easily manipulated so I dunno…
Dry-Airport8046 on
Ask the Vice President why he is afraid to admit she was murdered.
Intarhorn on
JD Vance is saying murdering someone if they want to is part of ICE’s job. Interesting
M_R2112 on
I don’t know…. The way they are so fast to talk about this US citizen who was murdered by people who are supposed to go after “non citizen criminals”…. It’s almost like they know it’s wrong but trying to steer the conversation.
The officer stepped in front of the car and pulled his gun. He was not “defending himself”
Trust_Your_Mechanic on
I once served on a grand jury and among other things, we heard a case dealing with an officer-involved shooting. It is standard legal procedure practiced in cities nationwide in trying to determine if the officer was justified in using lethal force.
What mechanisms, IF ANY, are in place to hold these officers accountable for their actions? I think we all know the answer.
kdream1st on
FUCK ALL OF THEM – THIS IS FULL BLOWN PUTINESQUE AUTHORITARIANISM
Ok-Bus1716 on
Anytime something bad happens they follow the same script. Whoever died/did something wrong was a deranged leftist. Anytime one of their own commits a crime or kills someone they’re a deranged leftist and then we go through the Trump media news cycle of them making false claims and then it comes out it was one of theirs the whole time.
Rinse. Wash. Repeat.
BitterPackersFan on
One side is going to buy this BS
I hope all the non voters see what is going on and get their asses to the polls next election
The right has a brainwashed cult that will vote for a pile of poop if it hates dems and pronouns enough.
snappla on
She was eating cats! She was eating dogs!
bajams1007 on
We know who the real domestic terrorists are.
Fish-Weekly on
I stopped caring what these people say a long time ago. Their opinion means nothing to me as I have no respect for them. They are a disgrace to their office and are therefore invisible to me.
dantevonlocke on
Wild coming from the same people who were dickriding babbitt a few days ago.
Kyl0theHutt on
Even if I were to (incorrectly) believe that she was some sort of deranged leftist/individual/socialist/feminist/insert today’s GOP target……. Yes, the officer didn’t react in any sort of reasonable way and was wrong. The only person in the video who had any real reason to fear for their life was the driver.
Euronated-inmypants on
The people that happily paid Ashlie Babbits family 10 milliom dollars and made her a martyr when she broken into the capital and then went through a secret service barricade and smashed her way into a room of secrets services agents who were screaming at her to stop. SHES A FUCKING HERO this woman is a domestic terrorist tho. 1984 is a documentary about America.
ObliviousRounding on
Any system where the onus is on the defenseless to prove they are not a threat instead of on the weapons-laden person to prove that they are under attack is a disgrace.
FallOutShelterBoy on
Does he really think saying shit like this is going to endear himself to the people so he’ll be elected president? What the hell is wrong with these people?
ThatThar on
If the officer was actually defending their life against someone who was trying to run them over, sure. But that’s not what happened here. This officer deliberately positioned himself in front of her vehicle while his fellow officers were ordering the driver to leave the area. This officer is either incredibly stupid or wanted to murder someone, or both.
The video is out there from multiple angles. Don’t let this administration or their allies gaslight you.
FanDry5374 on
Slow motion closeup video of the ***murder*** is out there. And it shows a very clear, deliberate unprovoked murder. Will Minnesota/Milwaukee police get a chance to arrest this goon or is he already in some safe space in a red state?
Nappeal on
Shooting and killing unarmed and non-threatening US civilians simply because they do not immediately bend to verbal demands is not just someone “doing their job.” It is an untrained, unskilled, and emotionally unregulated LARPing coward in an Amazon tactical vest. Video very clearly shows the murderer walking with absolutely no limp or weird gait immediately after he shoots his victim in the face at point blank-range, so the narrative being pushed by these sadistic psychopaths that he was only defending himself is intentionally and maliciously false. Not to mention, last time I checked, law enforcement is not on the streets to represent the judge, the jury, *and the executioner.*
AlertResolution on
USA and it’s citizen’s don’t need terrorists from foreign country, they have their homegrown terrorists as this administration of orange buffoon and ICE to do the terrorists work.
Weekly-Landscape-543 on
Oh go fuck a couch 🛋️
Minivric on
Criminals protecting criminals
PuddingPast5862 on
The deranged terrorist are wearing ICE vests. I hope the find the perp and convict him and sentence him to life without parole.
spottydodgy on
You can see her very clearly turn her vehicle to drive away from the officers, not at them. The fact that they are trying to tell us otherwise says everything we need to know. They don’t care about the truth, they care about control.
muffledvoice on
Sometimes I think Vance is worse than Trump because he’s such a chameleon who will go along with anything Trump says or does.
If video surfaced in the Epstein files of Trump doing what we know he did, Vance would find a way to defend that too.
There is no bottom, no lowest point for them morally.
ForsakenMongoose336 on
Vance—“what happened?”
ICE guy—“had to shoot her. We were in danger”
Vance—“couldn’t you just move to your right half a step”
ICE guy—“well yeah, but my adrenaline was pumping because she was obstructing us from tearing families apart. I was really mad”
Vance—“Ok. Keep up the good work. We will make up a bunch of shit and the mouth breathers that voted for us will eat it up.”
Ambitious_Long_4334 on
They had the cover story posted before the dust even settled. THEY ARE LYING TO COVER THEMSELVES AND TO STOP PEOPLE FROM ACTING ACCORDINGLY.
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Pushing the false narratives as fast and far as they can.
The ICE agent committed murder. His actions were in total violation of DOJ rules.
“U.S. DOJ Policy on Use of Force Title 1, firearms cannot be discharged solely to disable moving vehicles and are only permissible if an occupant threatens with deadly force by means other than the vehicle, or if the vehicle itself poses a deadly threat and no other defense exists. Deliberately positioning oneself in the path of a moving vehicle is considered officer-created jeopardy, invalidating any claim of necessary deadly force.”
And a communist, and a professional protester, and a “carpet muncher”, and…
Isn’t it great that our Vice-President doesn’t know how to capitalize?
I’m just so tired of this political theatre. A masked thug murdered an innocent woman in the middle of the day. I don’t want to argue whether she “should’ve complied” or “her tires were indicating she was reversing”. She was murdered. This is state sanctioned murder. Anyone saying otherwise is just lying because they don’t want to admit how bad things are in this country right now, or they don’t care.
Sorry for the rant, but I am just so sick of all this.
The media beholden to the right?
Jesus just fuck a couch already! 🙄
Doing all they can to get the hot war started. Epstein files are too much and the midterms scare the shit out of them. They had to do something.
What an utterly loathsome piece of fucking shit.
Biting my goddamn tongue so hard right now.
lol “ask them this one simple highly biased question”
#YES, I UNABASHEDLY SAY HE WAS, ANYBODY WITH EYES WILL WATCH THAT VIDEO AND SEE HE WAS WRONG, WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON
Attention Republicans:
If anything ever happens to you, the government will say it’s you’re fault.
Cancer from power plant.
Lead in water.
School shooting.
Insufficient healthcare.
Loss of job.
Measles.
Military draft.
Getting shot for being near masked men.
It’s clear now that the government you wanted to attack brown people is now the government that will attack all people.
Accept what you did to us. Suck it up and vote against republicans next time.
And for the 34% that didn’t vote. Both sides are not the same and you’re an idiot.
Yes. The officer was wrong to murder that woman. Done. Answered.
From the DHS Policy on the Use of Force (February 2023), Section V, Part B (“Moving Vehicles”):
“Firearms should not be discharged at a stationary or moving vehicle, the occupants of a vehicle, or the tires of a vehicle unless a person in the vehicle is imminently threatening a Department member or another person present with deadly force by means other than the moving vehicle. The moving vehicle itself shall not presumptively constitute a threat that justifies the use of deadly force. Department members shall not move into, remain, or otherwise position themselves in the path of a vehicle in an effort to detain or apprehend the occupants. A Department member in the path of a moving vehicle shall immediately attempt to move to a position of safety rather than discharging a firearm.”
https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/2023-02/23_0206_s1_use-of-force-policy-update.pdf
Now please talk about those J6 pardons and the rewrite on the white house website.
What JD Vance is clearly saying here is: “Politicians should hold zero restrictions on any actions that police, agents, or anybody emboldened by the federal government with a gun does. If they kill somebody, you must be okay with it, if you are not, you are not fit for office.”
JD Vance wants unquestioned free range slaughter of US citizens and for everybody to accept it and be complacent.
Feeling real 1939 up in here.
Yes because this was murder
This is standard for authoritarian regimes. Make the person who was killed into the enemy, even when it’s obvious that the person killed was innocent of any crime.
Shame on vance (lowercase intentional) …. He knows better but this is yet another role he’s playing. He has no guiding principles whatsoever and blows whichever way he perceives is beneficial to him. And that’s what makes him terrifying if Cankles exits stage left (25th amendment, death etc) and he becomes the regime’s new leader. I still say he doesn’t have the sway or control over the MAGAts but… MAGAts have proven to be emotionally malleable and easily manipulated so I dunno…
Ask the Vice President why he is afraid to admit she was murdered.
JD Vance is saying murdering someone if they want to is part of ICE’s job. Interesting
I don’t know…. The way they are so fast to talk about this US citizen who was murdered by people who are supposed to go after “non citizen criminals”…. It’s almost like they know it’s wrong but trying to steer the conversation.
I’m so very tired.
https://preview.redd.it/ng1cskmuu4cg1.png?width=1440&format=png&auto=webp&s=e820edd8902445773f3cefe1ec59fe3281ee7e62
The officer stepped in front of the car and pulled his gun. He was not “defending himself”
I once served on a grand jury and among other things, we heard a case dealing with an officer-involved shooting. It is standard legal procedure practiced in cities nationwide in trying to determine if the officer was justified in using lethal force.
What mechanisms, IF ANY, are in place to hold these officers accountable for their actions? I think we all know the answer.
FUCK ALL OF THEM – THIS IS FULL BLOWN PUTINESQUE AUTHORITARIANISM
Anytime something bad happens they follow the same script. Whoever died/did something wrong was a deranged leftist. Anytime one of their own commits a crime or kills someone they’re a deranged leftist and then we go through the Trump media news cycle of them making false claims and then it comes out it was one of theirs the whole time.
Rinse. Wash. Repeat.
One side is going to buy this BS
I hope all the non voters see what is going on and get their asses to the polls next election
The right has a brainwashed cult that will vote for a pile of poop if it hates dems and pronouns enough.
She was eating cats! She was eating dogs!
We know who the real domestic terrorists are.
I stopped caring what these people say a long time ago. Their opinion means nothing to me as I have no respect for them. They are a disgrace to their office and are therefore invisible to me.
Wild coming from the same people who were dickriding babbitt a few days ago.
Even if I were to (incorrectly) believe that she was some sort of deranged leftist/individual/socialist/feminist/insert today’s GOP target……. Yes, the officer didn’t react in any sort of reasonable way and was wrong. The only person in the video who had any real reason to fear for their life was the driver.
The people that happily paid Ashlie Babbits family 10 milliom dollars and made her a martyr when she broken into the capital and then went through a secret service barricade and smashed her way into a room of secrets services agents who were screaming at her to stop. SHES A FUCKING HERO this woman is a domestic terrorist tho. 1984 is a documentary about America.
Any system where the onus is on the defenseless to prove they are not a threat instead of on the weapons-laden person to prove that they are under attack is a disgrace.
Does he really think saying shit like this is going to endear himself to the people so he’ll be elected president? What the hell is wrong with these people?
If the officer was actually defending their life against someone who was trying to run them over, sure. But that’s not what happened here. This officer deliberately positioned himself in front of her vehicle while his fellow officers were ordering the driver to leave the area. This officer is either incredibly stupid or wanted to murder someone, or both.
The video is out there from multiple angles. Don’t let this administration or their allies gaslight you.
Slow motion closeup video of the ***murder*** is out there. And it shows a very clear, deliberate unprovoked murder. Will Minnesota/Milwaukee police get a chance to arrest this goon or is he already in some safe space in a red state?
Shooting and killing unarmed and non-threatening US civilians simply because they do not immediately bend to verbal demands is not just someone “doing their job.” It is an untrained, unskilled, and emotionally unregulated LARPing coward in an Amazon tactical vest. Video very clearly shows the murderer walking with absolutely no limp or weird gait immediately after he shoots his victim in the face at point blank-range, so the narrative being pushed by these sadistic psychopaths that he was only defending himself is intentionally and maliciously false. Not to mention, last time I checked, law enforcement is not on the streets to represent the judge, the jury, *and the executioner.*
USA and it’s citizen’s don’t need terrorists from foreign country, they have their homegrown terrorists as this administration of orange buffoon and ICE to do the terrorists work.
Oh go fuck a couch 🛋️
Criminals protecting criminals
The deranged terrorist are wearing ICE vests. I hope the find the perp and convict him and sentence him to life without parole.
You can see her very clearly turn her vehicle to drive away from the officers, not at them. The fact that they are trying to tell us otherwise says everything we need to know. They don’t care about the truth, they care about control.
Sometimes I think Vance is worse than Trump because he’s such a chameleon who will go along with anything Trump says or does.
If video surfaced in the Epstein files of Trump doing what we know he did, Vance would find a way to defend that too.
There is no bottom, no lowest point for them morally.
Vance—“what happened?”
ICE guy—“had to shoot her. We were in danger”
Vance—“couldn’t you just move to your right half a step”
ICE guy—“well yeah, but my adrenaline was pumping because she was obstructing us from tearing families apart. I was really mad”
Vance—“Ok. Keep up the good work. We will make up a bunch of shit and the mouth breathers that voted for us will eat it up.”
They had the cover story posted before the dust even settled. THEY ARE LYING TO COVER THEMSELVES AND TO STOP PEOPLE FROM ACTING ACCORDINGLY.