Photograph of two Maori men having a debate about Christian belief and unbelief, outside a Ratana church, the man in the hat apparently establishing the existence of God. Taken by the photographer Ans Westra (1964)
Photograph of two Maori men having a debate about Christian belief and unbelief, outside a Ratana church, the man in the hat apparently establishing the existence of God. Taken by the photographer Ans Westra (1964)
And all of them, casual or not, very nicely dressed
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sources of the images.
Ratana Pa – Debate about Christian belief versus unbelief. Westra, Ans, 1936-2023: Photographs. Ref: AWM-0762-F. Alexander Turnbull Library, Wellington, New Zealand. [/records/36390066](https://natlib.govt.nz/records/36390066)
Ratana Pa – Debate about Christian belief continues. Westra, Ans, 1936-2023: Photographs. Ref: AWM-0764-F. Alexander Turnbull Library, Wellington, New Zealand. [/records/36390048](https://natlib.govt.nz/records/36390048)
Ratana Pa – Debate about Christian belief versus unbelief. Westra, Ans, 1936-2023: Photographs. Ref: AWM-0763-F. Alexander Turnbull Library, Wellington, New Zealand. [/records/36390050](https://natlib.govt.nz/records/36390050)
Ratana is a Maori church in New Zealand, Maori being indigenous people of mainland New Zealand, idk if these men are debating specifically Ratana beliefs or general Christian beliefs.
there are so many more photos of the debate between these two, i love how the fella with the hat always has a smile on, looking all smug, idk the timeline of the debate, but looks like a crowed forms around the two men? and some third fellas join in? and another photo has a fourth person talking with the three, looks pretty funny to me.
i like the photos Ans Westra took, she has taken heaps more photos of everyday Maori life, and unlike most other photographers of Maori she shows how actual Maori lived at the time, not dressing them up in traditional cloths or making them hold spears or clubs or trying to make Maori look like “old time Maori” or anything like that. (at least i havent seen one of her photos where she done that)
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And then they danced the Haka and everyone groaned.
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And all of them, casual or not, very nicely dressed
sources of the images.
Ratana Pa – Debate about Christian belief versus unbelief. Westra, Ans, 1936-2023: Photographs. Ref: AWM-0762-F. Alexander Turnbull Library, Wellington, New Zealand. [/records/36390066](https://natlib.govt.nz/records/36390066)
Ratana Pa – Debate about Christian belief continues. Westra, Ans, 1936-2023: Photographs. Ref: AWM-0764-F. Alexander Turnbull Library, Wellington, New Zealand. [/records/36390048](https://natlib.govt.nz/records/36390048)
Ratana Pa – Debate about Christian belief versus unbelief. Westra, Ans, 1936-2023: Photographs. Ref: AWM-0763-F. Alexander Turnbull Library, Wellington, New Zealand. [/records/36390050](https://natlib.govt.nz/records/36390050)
Ratana is a Maori church in New Zealand, Maori being indigenous people of mainland New Zealand, idk if these men are debating specifically Ratana beliefs or general Christian beliefs.
there are so many more photos of the debate between these two, i love how the fella with the hat always has a smile on, looking all smug, idk the timeline of the debate, but looks like a crowed forms around the two men? and some third fellas join in? and another photo has a fourth person talking with the three, looks pretty funny to me.
i like the photos Ans Westra took, she has taken heaps more photos of everyday Maori life, and unlike most other photographers of Maori she shows how actual Maori lived at the time, not dressing them up in traditional cloths or making them hold spears or clubs or trying to make Maori look like “old time Maori” or anything like that. (at least i havent seen one of her photos where she done that)
And then they danced the Haka and everyone groaned.