To be fair, if all you knew about Japan was the Nanjing Massacre and you didn’t know that in a few decades they’d turn their country around to become one of the most peaceful on the face of the Earth, you’d probably support interment camps too.
Tight-Inflation-2228 on
Could we not just like, dislike all of them?
newidiotintown on
What does the Japanese ancestry one said
Heresy_King on
The sad part is FDR was completely indifferent towards Japanese-Americans. So when his cabinet brought out the Japanese Internment Acts, he signed them because he just didn’t care one way or the other. Still not a great look.
Historybuff250 on
Are you seriously trying to compare FDR mass incarcerating Japanese Americans for racist reasons to a genocidal scumbag and the guy responsible for a man-made famine? Both are directly responsible for the deaths of millions of innocent people while FDR imprisoned 110,000 innocents who were eventually freed. Still bad, but not even close to comparable with a manufactured famine and a literal genocide.
RySean on
Except that Churchill wasn’t responsible for the Bengal famine at all… Even the most aggressive take would be sayinf
G that some of his decisions potentially exacerbated the effects of the famine. But the primary factors were: natural disaster, local government, and Japanese invasion.
DonnieMoistX on
Treating mass incarnations in internment camps as comparable to actual genocide.
The average Redditor at its finest.
KoupDetat on
1,862 died in Japanese internment camps
6,000 were born in them
That’s a death toll of -4,148
The Bengal Famine killed *millions*, such a stupid false equivalency
Worried-Pick4848 on
Worth pointing out that very few Japanese died in the internment camps. Which doesn’t excuse our guilt for doing that to them, but does mean that comparing them directly with the Bengal famine and the Soviet pogroms is tacky, to put it mildly.
I won’t say for a moment that we should have done the internment camps. They were a violation of everything it is to be an American. But at the very least we always intended that the Japanese would walk back out of the camps when the war was over.
So while we absolutely do need to remember what we did and never do it again, it’s entirely farcical to compare the internment camps to Hitler’s death camps, Stalin’s gulags, or the Bengal Famine. Or to a lot of real world events that had actual significant death toll. It cheapens these other humanitarian catastrophes to have the internment camps lumped in with them.
Blue_Cardigan15 on
The Japanese interment camps were very bad but are you really going to say it was comparable to two actual intentionally manufactured genocides?
bkrugby78 on
Lot of “FDR had no choice!” even though that executive order was all on him.
Cosmic_Meditator777 on
One weird thing I’ve noticed is that the conversation around the Japanese concentration camps starts and ends at the simple fact that they existed; nobody ever talks about what the ethnic Japanese citizens actually went through in there.
KingleGoHydra on
I feel like historically versed people already are knowledgeable about FDR. In my experience, every person who learns the history of FDR, sort of knows about the Japanese internment.
Furthermore, although that incident was horrific and excessively cruel to American citizens, as far as presidents go and as far as WW2 domestic leadership, it’s far better than what the Germans, Japanese, Soviets, Chinese, or british were doing.
Genericdude03 on
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Nanako1857 on
I’m still angry about it
5v3n_5a3g3w3rk on
The interment camps weren’t that bad, more people came out then went in (more babies were born as old people died)
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To be fair, if all you knew about Japan was the Nanjing Massacre and you didn’t know that in a few decades they’d turn their country around to become one of the most peaceful on the face of the Earth, you’d probably support interment camps too.
Could we not just like, dislike all of them?
What does the Japanese ancestry one said
The sad part is FDR was completely indifferent towards Japanese-Americans. So when his cabinet brought out the Japanese Internment Acts, he signed them because he just didn’t care one way or the other. Still not a great look.
Are you seriously trying to compare FDR mass incarcerating Japanese Americans for racist reasons to a genocidal scumbag and the guy responsible for a man-made famine? Both are directly responsible for the deaths of millions of innocent people while FDR imprisoned 110,000 innocents who were eventually freed. Still bad, but not even close to comparable with a manufactured famine and a literal genocide.
Except that Churchill wasn’t responsible for the Bengal famine at all… Even the most aggressive take would be sayinf
G that some of his decisions potentially exacerbated the effects of the famine. But the primary factors were: natural disaster, local government, and Japanese invasion.
Treating mass incarnations in internment camps as comparable to actual genocide.
The average Redditor at its finest.
1,862 died in Japanese internment camps
6,000 were born in them
That’s a death toll of -4,148
The Bengal Famine killed *millions*, such a stupid false equivalency
Worth pointing out that very few Japanese died in the internment camps. Which doesn’t excuse our guilt for doing that to them, but does mean that comparing them directly with the Bengal famine and the Soviet pogroms is tacky, to put it mildly.
I won’t say for a moment that we should have done the internment camps. They were a violation of everything it is to be an American. But at the very least we always intended that the Japanese would walk back out of the camps when the war was over.
So while we absolutely do need to remember what we did and never do it again, it’s entirely farcical to compare the internment camps to Hitler’s death camps, Stalin’s gulags, or the Bengal Famine. Or to a lot of real world events that had actual significant death toll. It cheapens these other humanitarian catastrophes to have the internment camps lumped in with them.
The Japanese interment camps were very bad but are you really going to say it was comparable to two actual intentionally manufactured genocides?
Lot of “FDR had no choice!” even though that executive order was all on him.
One weird thing I’ve noticed is that the conversation around the Japanese concentration camps starts and ends at the simple fact that they existed; nobody ever talks about what the ethnic Japanese citizens actually went through in there.
I feel like historically versed people already are knowledgeable about FDR. In my experience, every person who learns the history of FDR, sort of knows about the Japanese internment.
Furthermore, although that incident was horrific and excessively cruel to American citizens, as far as presidents go and as far as WW2 domestic leadership, it’s far better than what the Germans, Japanese, Soviets, Chinese, or british were doing.
Days since Reddit treated oppression as a competition – 0
I’m still angry about it
The interment camps weren’t that bad, more people came out then went in (more babies were born as old people died)