lmao…Streicher is like one of the founding fathers of these fuckheads
pakkieressaberesojaj on
All that IQ and no one though “maybe we shouldn’t go to Russia in the winter”
UrsaMinor42 on
They had recently gone through a time of severe, lethal competition within their own ranks.
Not surprised some of the smartest survived their internal wars and the general war.
ArialBear on
These are the worst propaganda posts. ugh
strand_of_hair on
Why did you write Nazi with that a in the title?
MeMayMaMoMeMooMaMay on
IQ scores are ‘relative’. In the way that the average IQ will ALWAYS be 100. If your whole society gets smarter, the average IQ will still be 100.
If the general public wasn’t as bright as it was today due to having less education back then, these ‘high IQ’ people are only more intelligent compared to their generation.
They would score lower if they took the test today. A rough estimate would be that an IQ of 130 in 1940 would be 105 in 2025
scfw0x0f on
Intelligent and cruel. One does not excuse the other.
sweadle on
IQ testing is incredibly inaccurate and we have no idea what test was used here.
But it isn’t surprising that these are higher than average. They were high up officials in highly paid positions.
Own-Freedom9169 on
The 124 is guys last names being funk and Frick is actually kinda funny
SelarDorr on
High ranking officers are those who found a way to rise up in the society which they belonged, in this case, nazi germany. This naturally selects for intelligence, not morality (one might argue it selects against morality for many societal structures).
Eichmann in Jerusalem: A Report on the Banality of Evil by Hannah Arendt documents his trial and shares this type of perspective and imo, her general conclusions are a sufficient explanation of how entire societies and intelligent people can be manipulated to commit atrocities.
jobomaja888 on
Schacht was central banker
OpinionPutrid1343 on
Nickname of Streicher also was Oberst Doofie.
Warm_Regrets157 on
>merely con- firming the fact that the most successful men in any sphere of human activity-whether it is politics, industry, militarism, or crime-are apt to be above average intelligence. It must be borne in mind that the IQ indicates nothing
Our current status as a kakistocracy desperately begs to challenge this conclusion.
Sarcastic_Backpack on
Imagine that military officers are more intelligent than the average. Like this isn’t a typical result. You could test modern day officers from various countries and get the same general results.
Officers usually are college educated. Back in pres WW2 Germany, they were typically the upper class & nobility, so I’d be surprised if they didn’t score above average in IQ.
Drummk on
Kind of crushing being the one sub average guy
CanarioFalante on
Trump scored a 138 on a urine test
Icy-Conflict6671 on
Yeah their top officers were smart af. Too bad they put it towards the wrong purposes
I_Enjoy_Beer on
Lotta people reflexively crapping on this because “Nazis”, but its incredibly important to recognize and accept that smart people can be absolute monsters, too. Its not praising Nazis to recognize that some of the leadership was functionally intelligent. If anything, it is a great reminder/warning that smart/rich/attractive people can be massive pieces of shit.
Crime-of-the-century on
There is also the fact that they believed themselves to be very superior no matter how good you are underestimating your opponent is always risky.
HonestAvian18 on
Why are people so pissy in the comments about this?
Yes, evil people are sometimes pretty conventionally intelligent. Nazi officials were quite educated and the cream of the crop from their respective fields. They had impressive generals, engineers, propagandists, scientists, etc. Men from academies, universities and the like.
Nazi Germany was riddled with a lot of talent, albeit talent used for evil of course. That’s why these guys were at the top of the food chain.
Intelligence does not mean you are moral. Intelligence does not mean you are always correct. Intelligence does not negate ego and narcissism.
Plenty of serial killers are cunning, high IQ individuals. I would say most of the most the people we consider the most evil in humanity were likely quite intelligent, and they were able to wield that for their gain or cause.
People like to have it both ways, where evil is always so incredibly stupid like in the movies (“how could someone beleive that or do that?”) but then neglect to understand why that evil is actually a threat, why it has power and how it got that power. Evil does not always bumble around, it only makes you think it does.
Hendospendo on
IQ is just a measure of one’s abstract thinking ability. I’m sure inffering what the next number in a pattern will be, has absolutely no baring on whether or not you’re a reprehensible goon.
ShiggyGoosebottom on
Aum Shinrikyo (the cult that gassed the Tokyo subways, among other crimes) would look similar. High IQ but but weak-minded, easily led, and willing to follow orders from a madman.
Nodarius96 on
Just another reminder that being smart and well-educated doesn’t necessarily make someone a good person.
Rice-Weird on
Do not mistake education for intelligence or kindness. These are non-overlapping, independent personality features. Fostering each- in everyone- is imperative for global wellbeing.
yachtknot88 on
STOP USING THE IQ SYSTEM AS A MEASURE OF INTELLIGENCE. IT IS REMARKABLY FLAWED.
Seriously whenever anyone brings up IQ all I can think of is Donald Trump and how he uses this as some sort of guidance as to whether a person deserved respect or not.
It’s a horse sh*t scale made by old racists. It should not be used and people should not be judged based on there “score” ,good or bad
guiamaral0 on
Maybe because the nazis invented the IQ test..
bellwaa8 on
I can just imagine Julius getting mocked in meetings. Stupid Streicher!
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IQ so high they only lasted 5 years at war
lmao…Streicher is like one of the founding fathers of these fuckheads
All that IQ and no one though “maybe we shouldn’t go to Russia in the winter”
They had recently gone through a time of severe, lethal competition within their own ranks.
Not surprised some of the smartest survived their internal wars and the general war.
These are the worst propaganda posts. ugh
Why did you write Nazi with that a in the title?
IQ scores are ‘relative’. In the way that the average IQ will ALWAYS be 100. If your whole society gets smarter, the average IQ will still be 100.
If the general public wasn’t as bright as it was today due to having less education back then, these ‘high IQ’ people are only more intelligent compared to their generation.
They would score lower if they took the test today. A rough estimate would be that an IQ of 130 in 1940 would be 105 in 2025
Intelligent and cruel. One does not excuse the other.
IQ testing is incredibly inaccurate and we have no idea what test was used here.
But it isn’t surprising that these are higher than average. They were high up officials in highly paid positions.
The 124 is guys last names being funk and Frick is actually kinda funny
High ranking officers are those who found a way to rise up in the society which they belonged, in this case, nazi germany. This naturally selects for intelligence, not morality (one might argue it selects against morality for many societal structures).
Eichmann in Jerusalem: A Report on the Banality of Evil by Hannah Arendt documents his trial and shares this type of perspective and imo, her general conclusions are a sufficient explanation of how entire societies and intelligent people can be manipulated to commit atrocities.
Schacht was central banker
Nickname of Streicher also was Oberst Doofie.
>merely con- firming the fact that the most successful men in any sphere of human activity-whether it is politics, industry, militarism, or crime-are apt to be above average intelligence. It must be borne in mind that the IQ indicates nothing
Our current status as a kakistocracy desperately begs to challenge this conclusion.
Imagine that military officers are more intelligent than the average. Like this isn’t a typical result. You could test modern day officers from various countries and get the same general results.
Officers usually are college educated. Back in pres WW2 Germany, they were typically the upper class & nobility, so I’d be surprised if they didn’t score above average in IQ.
Kind of crushing being the one sub average guy
Trump scored a 138 on a urine test
Yeah their top officers were smart af. Too bad they put it towards the wrong purposes
Lotta people reflexively crapping on this because “Nazis”, but its incredibly important to recognize and accept that smart people can be absolute monsters, too. Its not praising Nazis to recognize that some of the leadership was functionally intelligent. If anything, it is a great reminder/warning that smart/rich/attractive people can be massive pieces of shit.
There is also the fact that they believed themselves to be very superior no matter how good you are underestimating your opponent is always risky.
Why are people so pissy in the comments about this?
Yes, evil people are sometimes pretty conventionally intelligent. Nazi officials were quite educated and the cream of the crop from their respective fields. They had impressive generals, engineers, propagandists, scientists, etc. Men from academies, universities and the like.
Nazi Germany was riddled with a lot of talent, albeit talent used for evil of course. That’s why these guys were at the top of the food chain.
Intelligence does not mean you are moral. Intelligence does not mean you are always correct. Intelligence does not negate ego and narcissism.
Plenty of serial killers are cunning, high IQ individuals. I would say most of the most the people we consider the most evil in humanity were likely quite intelligent, and they were able to wield that for their gain or cause.
People like to have it both ways, where evil is always so incredibly stupid like in the movies (“how could someone beleive that or do that?”) but then neglect to understand why that evil is actually a threat, why it has power and how it got that power. Evil does not always bumble around, it only makes you think it does.
IQ is just a measure of one’s abstract thinking ability. I’m sure inffering what the next number in a pattern will be, has absolutely no baring on whether or not you’re a reprehensible goon.
Aum Shinrikyo (the cult that gassed the Tokyo subways, among other crimes) would look similar. High IQ but but weak-minded, easily led, and willing to follow orders from a madman.
Just another reminder that being smart and well-educated doesn’t necessarily make someone a good person.
Do not mistake education for intelligence or kindness. These are non-overlapping, independent personality features. Fostering each- in everyone- is imperative for global wellbeing.
STOP USING THE IQ SYSTEM AS A MEASURE OF INTELLIGENCE. IT IS REMARKABLY FLAWED.
Seriously whenever anyone brings up IQ all I can think of is Donald Trump and how he uses this as some sort of guidance as to whether a person deserved respect or not.
It’s a horse sh*t scale made by old racists. It should not be used and people should not be judged based on there “score” ,good or bad
Maybe because the nazis invented the IQ test..
I can just imagine Julius getting mocked in meetings. Stupid Streicher!