Surprised so many men believe toxic masculinity is a problem, especially given the other results here.
Vic_Hedges on
Is there a spot to compare these results to previous decades?
It looks pretty alarming, I’m curious as to whether this is normal or an aberration
GushStasis on
If your ideology depends on controlling the manner in which other people live their lives, whether by legislation, force, or societal pressure and mores, your ideology is arrogant and broken. I hope these boys enjoy being alone
mybossthinksimworkin on
They’ll be the ones shipped off to the frontlines.
JJFrob on
Is this the “overwhelmingly conservative” Gen Z I keep hearing about? As usual, exaggerated hype and aura on the part of GOP propagandists.
Sure there are some conservative inclinations on the part of young men, but without a good comparison to the past, and the fact they’re still majority progressive on some of the big ticket items, this imo should immediately throw cold water on the right’s assertion that “Gen Z is the most conservative since the Greatest Generation”, something I’ve seen claimed on Reddit.
DrakanShadow on
You should try splitting the women between married and unmarried. The polls between those two groups are drastically different.
SpaceWestern1442 on
Ask those same men “I think the father should do 50% of the parenting, when home from work”
I bet the number saying they want families is significantly higher than “I want to be more then the fun parent”
As a man who wants to be a father and an active parent doing as close to equal or more of the parenting most men sadly don’t feel the same
bobbykjack on
Ironic to see such ugly data on this sub!
BabyMaybe15 on
35% of Gen Z women believe we should return to traditional gender roles?!?!?! That is so much higher than I expected or am comfortable with. Internalized misogyny runs deep. Holy cow.
Souporsam12 on
All this data shows is most gen z men are morons.
The only reasonable take is male loneliness is a problem, but even without that being a bullet on this graph it shouldn’t be that hard to deduce.
Salty145 on
81% of Gen Z women thinking “toxic masculinity” is a problem is crazy. I wonder how many of that 81% engages in “toxic femininity”.
therealruin on
They brainwashed the dads, then they went for the sons.
Ok_Reaction_4653 on
Interesting part to me is that women are clearly more of a cohesive bloc. The swings are much wider from issue to issue for them, whereas men stay closer to a 50-50 split in most cases
nhh on
25% of GenZ men are never getting laid
No_Hetero on
These are virtually all in majority favor of liberal ideals except for Trump and Vance approval rates being almost half of young men. Even though Gen Z women are more liberal, Gen Z men appear to also be a slight majority liberal.
UMCorian on
Oof. Well, glad this post found it’s way onto my feed and I got to read some of the dumbest comments from the dumbest people I’ve ever seen on reddit. I just wanted some nice gaming news. Really have to stop using this app first thing in the morning.
WolfetoneRebel on
They’ll renege on women’s suffrage before the next vote…
HaruhiSuzumiya69 on
Very interesting that the people in this thread are immediately assuming that the women are right, and the men are wrong. These questions are all opinions so we cannot say which cohort is more right or wrong.
And also, downplaying men’s opinions like that probably contributes to the trends that y’all are so worried about.
cda91 on
Political data disaggregated by age that doesn’t show other ages is bad data presentation. I suspect an agenda is being pushed here (that Gen Z men are particularly right wing, a very common assertion on reddit) that data does not support. I’d also welcome a definition of Gen Z on the graphic (it’s <28yo according to the website).
Looking at the source:
47% of GenZ men approve of Trump
53% of millenial men
56% of Gen X
49% Boomers
47% Silent
Tells a bit of a different story to the one implied by the chart, doesn’t it?
Ideally we’d want to look at what other generations thought when they were <28 but the survey doesn’t go back that far, nor does Trump’s political career, nor can we ignore the general trends in support for Democrats vs Republicans.
The reality is that Republicans are more popular in general in 24/25 than they were in 20 – that’s why the won the election. Blaming this disproportionately (or even exclusively in some comments) on young people is not supported by evidence and likely to be counter-productive.
I’d argue that the real story here is how anti-Trump young women are (independently of men) but that doesn’t justify anti-young prejudice so it’s pretty much ignored in reddit discourse.
For women through the generations it’s 26%, 35%, 41%, 36%, 33%.
If you think the real story is the gap between men and women in Gen Z (21pp), it would STILL be helpful to see the other age groups for comparison (18pp for millenials, 15pp for Gen X, 13pp Boomer, 14pp silent).
MajkiF on
Was this survey made among Reddittors from USA?
DenizzineD on
I though migrants were the issue, but this paints an entirely different picture 😉 I wonder who was aware of this
WirelessZombie on
The massive education and socialization gap between boys and girls needs to be addressed before any of this changes, along with other issues. Bigger gap now (in the opposite direction) than when title 9 passed.
Calling them incels and telling them to pick themselves up by their bootstraps seems to be the default reaction in a lot of spaces, an ironically conservative reaction that fails to see the bigger picture. Systematic problems require systematic solutions.
Yes there is a point as an adult where you are responsible for your own gross political views but this stuff doesn’t come out of nowhere. It wasn’t long ago where the rural/urban and gender divides were much less pronounced. Women have been more conservative than men for most of their voting history. It has now reversed and there are complicated reasons for that reversal we are still figuring out.
Maximumi-Awkward on
So Gen Z men are more republican than democrat?
Mapex on
Would love to see how this compares to Millennials and Gen Alpha. I suspect Millennials will look roughly the same, maybe a bit more left leaning, but Gen Alpha will go the other way.
a_electrum on
Well luckily genz men are irresponsible losers and won’t vote as much as their female couterparts
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Dawg we getting South Korea birth rates 😭
Surprised so many men believe toxic masculinity is a problem, especially given the other results here.
Is there a spot to compare these results to previous decades?
It looks pretty alarming, I’m curious as to whether this is normal or an aberration
If your ideology depends on controlling the manner in which other people live their lives, whether by legislation, force, or societal pressure and mores, your ideology is arrogant and broken. I hope these boys enjoy being alone
They’ll be the ones shipped off to the frontlines.
Is this the “overwhelmingly conservative” Gen Z I keep hearing about? As usual, exaggerated hype and aura on the part of GOP propagandists.
Sure there are some conservative inclinations on the part of young men, but without a good comparison to the past, and the fact they’re still majority progressive on some of the big ticket items, this imo should immediately throw cold water on the right’s assertion that “Gen Z is the most conservative since the Greatest Generation”, something I’ve seen claimed on Reddit.
You should try splitting the women between married and unmarried. The polls between those two groups are drastically different.
Ask those same men “I think the father should do 50% of the parenting, when home from work”
I bet the number saying they want families is significantly higher than “I want to be more then the fun parent”
As a man who wants to be a father and an active parent doing as close to equal or more of the parenting most men sadly don’t feel the same
Ironic to see such ugly data on this sub!
35% of Gen Z women believe we should return to traditional gender roles?!?!?! That is so much higher than I expected or am comfortable with. Internalized misogyny runs deep. Holy cow.
All this data shows is most gen z men are morons.
The only reasonable take is male loneliness is a problem, but even without that being a bullet on this graph it shouldn’t be that hard to deduce.
81% of Gen Z women thinking “toxic masculinity” is a problem is crazy. I wonder how many of that 81% engages in “toxic femininity”.
They brainwashed the dads, then they went for the sons.
Interesting part to me is that women are clearly more of a cohesive bloc. The swings are much wider from issue to issue for them, whereas men stay closer to a 50-50 split in most cases
25% of GenZ men are never getting laid
These are virtually all in majority favor of liberal ideals except for Trump and Vance approval rates being almost half of young men. Even though Gen Z women are more liberal, Gen Z men appear to also be a slight majority liberal.
Oof. Well, glad this post found it’s way onto my feed and I got to read some of the dumbest comments from the dumbest people I’ve ever seen on reddit. I just wanted some nice gaming news. Really have to stop using this app first thing in the morning.
They’ll renege on women’s suffrage before the next vote…
Very interesting that the people in this thread are immediately assuming that the women are right, and the men are wrong. These questions are all opinions so we cannot say which cohort is more right or wrong.
And also, downplaying men’s opinions like that probably contributes to the trends that y’all are so worried about.
Political data disaggregated by age that doesn’t show other ages is bad data presentation. I suspect an agenda is being pushed here (that Gen Z men are particularly right wing, a very common assertion on reddit) that data does not support. I’d also welcome a definition of Gen Z on the graphic (it’s <28yo according to the website).
Looking at the source:
47% of GenZ men approve of Trump
53% of millenial men
56% of Gen X
49% Boomers
47% Silent
Tells a bit of a different story to the one implied by the chart, doesn’t it?
Ideally we’d want to look at what other generations thought when they were <28 but the survey doesn’t go back that far, nor does Trump’s political career, nor can we ignore the general trends in support for Democrats vs Republicans.
The reality is that Republicans are more popular in general in 24/25 than they were in 20 – that’s why the won the election. Blaming this disproportionately (or even exclusively in some comments) on young people is not supported by evidence and likely to be counter-productive.
I’d argue that the real story here is how anti-Trump young women are (independently of men) but that doesn’t justify anti-young prejudice so it’s pretty much ignored in reddit discourse.
For women through the generations it’s 26%, 35%, 41%, 36%, 33%.
If you think the real story is the gap between men and women in Gen Z (21pp), it would STILL be helpful to see the other age groups for comparison (18pp for millenials, 15pp for Gen X, 13pp Boomer, 14pp silent).
Was this survey made among Reddittors from USA?
I though migrants were the issue, but this paints an entirely different picture 😉 I wonder who was aware of this
The massive education and socialization gap between boys and girls needs to be addressed before any of this changes, along with other issues. Bigger gap now (in the opposite direction) than when title 9 passed.
Calling them incels and telling them to pick themselves up by their bootstraps seems to be the default reaction in a lot of spaces, an ironically conservative reaction that fails to see the bigger picture. Systematic problems require systematic solutions.
Yes there is a point as an adult where you are responsible for your own gross political views but this stuff doesn’t come out of nowhere. It wasn’t long ago where the rural/urban and gender divides were much less pronounced. Women have been more conservative than men for most of their voting history. It has now reversed and there are complicated reasons for that reversal we are still figuring out.
So Gen Z men are more republican than democrat?
Would love to see how this compares to Millennials and Gen Alpha. I suspect Millennials will look roughly the same, maybe a bit more left leaning, but Gen Alpha will go the other way.
Well luckily genz men are irresponsible losers and won’t vote as much as their female couterparts