Yeah, Treasure Planet, Atlantis, Titan A.E… all box office flops despite being beautiful. Studios got scared off.
Jonn_1 on
Now watch Smiling Friends and say that again
hamtaro1234 on
Production costs and timing if I remember correctly.
The movie was released at the same time as one of the Harry potter movies.
Plus the advertising was horrible for the movie. Literally no one knew about it till much later.
Really unfortunate too because the movie is a masterpiece. Really holds up and the classic hand drawing style is something we’ll never see anymore.
Longjumping_Visit718 on
Last hurrah before “suits” accepted the fact CGI was a thousand times cheaper and easier to do. Google “The Amazing Digital Circus” and see how much CGI lowered the bar so that even independent creators can compete with multi-billion, hundred-year-old, corpo-blorpos…..
Fai5252 on
Because it didn’t make them all the money in the world, any less is failure by their standards
Drox88 on
money and time are the reasons
BoredTrauko on
money..
Itchy-Boots on
why did they stope?
Add_Identity on
capitalism
Primary_Fox1341 on
I grew up with them and honestly didn’t know that they were considered bad when released publicly. Also why isn’t iron giant on this( even if they aren’t the same kind of style) ? Of all the movies from that time frame it was definitely the one I was most shocked by that it flopped. Glad the director of the film made a comeback with the Incredibles, unfortunately that cemented 3D art style as the best money opinion.
prime075 on
Time, money, 3D animation getting better.
3D is the simplest answer, with the emergence of good tools for 3D animation and the success of Toy story.
dondondorito on
And today we have CalArts beanmouths.
Depressing.
FederalRub6835 on
CG animators don’t have unions like 2d animators do
tornshafter on
Demon slayer doing very good might help bring some animation back. But doubt
Mahakurotsuchi on
There is a theory that these movies were sabotaged to make way for 3d
kaioDeLeMyo on
No one went and saw them.
Excluding The Price of Egypt, all of these films flopped hard and lost millions.
RustedRuss on
That “some reason” was cost. 2d animation is very labor intensive and expensive even compared to 3d animation.
DominoUB on
Toy Story was the reason.Â
ProgenitorOfMidnight on
Because 2d animators unionized so 3d animators became cheaper and easier to abuse
purplemtnslayer on
This is karma farming repost slop. This was shared not even a week ago.
BlackTarTurd on
Prince of Egypt was so good. Easily one of the best renditions of the 10 commandments.
figureout07 on
BEEN MOUTH
PerfectMisgivings on
Money and time. Mainly money.
nicebutstops on
Story were too real for them to promote as happy go lucky kids movie.
Celestial__Bear on
2D animation is expensive as hell. All the sketches, keyframes, inking, so many people’s jobs all multiplied by their monthly income. If there’s 200 people making a movie at a decent salary, you’re looking at like $8m a year in paychecks alone.
With 3D, after the model is made, rigged, etc, you can pose and drag and animate it around however you like. Making movies is really hard, but 3D is cheaper staffing wise.
source: I work in games, and this stuff translates a bit.
THEGAMENOOBE on
One thing I remember hearing is that the switch to 3D artists was due to unions of 2D artists gaining more power. They didn’t want to fuck with the unions so studios switched to 3D.
pejerello on
It is amazing how today movies are big flops and still they don’t stop. But hey, 2 movies weren’t as succesful as we wanted to in the 2000’s, lets never do this again.
Lyelinn on
There’s always only one reason and everyone knows it
>!its money!<
ThatSaltyDuderino on
My GOAT
TheAlmightyLucas on
Its expensive or too time consuming
Or both.
What a shame.
DarthHalcius on
CGI killed it
DaniilBSD on
Trea sure planner was internally sabotaged by the guy who wanted Disney to make 3D animation; the sabotage was basically no marketing, and the marketing that existed – spoiled the movie completely
pytonhayes on
yeah somebody need to explain what happened
1AverageGamer on
The love for the art died and love for money was born
Nethermoure on
Then dei started and instead of people with talents they invited other people
James-Avatar on
Art like this takes time, time that boardroom suits don’t want to give them.
digitalheadbutt on
Money. 2D was time-consuming and labor intensive. I think in the modern era, you could build an insane 2d animation production pipeline that allowed didn’t sacrifice quality or the well-being of the creatives.
PlayfulJob8767 on
What is up with reposting this every few weeks?
And what is meant by “stopped for some reason”?
They were box office failures, they didn’t make enough money to break even and they were considered commercial failures. That’s why they stopped doing 2D animations.
Yes prince of Egypt was a moderate success but Titan AE for example who is not in in pics not. The other two Atlantis and Treasure Planet lost millions.
This and also the rising popularity with 3d animation, especially with Shrek.
Yes, these 2D movies look absolutely stunning and beatiful, but still financial flops.
Sassy_serena on
They were all so good and original that eventually its what people got used to… and like idiots, they stopped caring and eventually the cost of production outweighed the return so they quit. Especially after places like blockbuster shut down. And Netflix came up. People are gonna watch crap anyway, what’s the point of going all out when you can maximize profits by throwing a bunch of low budget stuff amd get the same amount of money
popicecoke on
The only good animation studio today which gives out quality of this level is dreamwork studios, but that could be just my opinion
QuartzVolkarin on
All of these movies under performed, so what do you mean?
MrFart21 on
The special look is a mix of 2D Hand Animation and Computer 3D Animation.
After that time full Computer 3D Animation was getting good enough, so they only used that.
Thats why this time frame looks so special
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The reason is 3D
Yeah, Treasure Planet, Atlantis, Titan A.E… all box office flops despite being beautiful. Studios got scared off.
Now watch Smiling Friends and say that again
Production costs and timing if I remember correctly.
The movie was released at the same time as one of the Harry potter movies.
Plus the advertising was horrible for the movie. Literally no one knew about it till much later.
Really unfortunate too because the movie is a masterpiece. Really holds up and the classic hand drawing style is something we’ll never see anymore.
Last hurrah before “suits” accepted the fact CGI was a thousand times cheaper and easier to do. Google “The Amazing Digital Circus” and see how much CGI lowered the bar so that even independent creators can compete with multi-billion, hundred-year-old, corpo-blorpos…..
Because it didn’t make them all the money in the world, any less is failure by their standards
money and time are the reasons
money..
why did they stope?
capitalism
I grew up with them and honestly didn’t know that they were considered bad when released publicly. Also why isn’t iron giant on this( even if they aren’t the same kind of style) ? Of all the movies from that time frame it was definitely the one I was most shocked by that it flopped. Glad the director of the film made a comeback with the Incredibles, unfortunately that cemented 3D art style as the best money opinion.
Time, money, 3D animation getting better.
3D is the simplest answer, with the emergence of good tools for 3D animation and the success of Toy story.
And today we have CalArts beanmouths.
Depressing.
CG animators don’t have unions like 2d animators do
Demon slayer doing very good might help bring some animation back. But doubt
There is a theory that these movies were sabotaged to make way for 3d
No one went and saw them.
Excluding The Price of Egypt, all of these films flopped hard and lost millions.
That “some reason” was cost. 2d animation is very labor intensive and expensive even compared to 3d animation.
Toy Story was the reason.Â
Because 2d animators unionized so 3d animators became cheaper and easier to abuse
This is karma farming repost slop. This was shared not even a week ago.
Prince of Egypt was so good. Easily one of the best renditions of the 10 commandments.
BEEN MOUTH
Money and time. Mainly money.
Story were too real for them to promote as happy go lucky kids movie.
2D animation is expensive as hell. All the sketches, keyframes, inking, so many people’s jobs all multiplied by their monthly income. If there’s 200 people making a movie at a decent salary, you’re looking at like $8m a year in paychecks alone.
With 3D, after the model is made, rigged, etc, you can pose and drag and animate it around however you like. Making movies is really hard, but 3D is cheaper staffing wise.
source: I work in games, and this stuff translates a bit.
One thing I remember hearing is that the switch to 3D artists was due to unions of 2D artists gaining more power. They didn’t want to fuck with the unions so studios switched to 3D.
It is amazing how today movies are big flops and still they don’t stop. But hey, 2 movies weren’t as succesful as we wanted to in the 2000’s, lets never do this again.
There’s always only one reason and everyone knows it
>!its money!<
My GOAT
Its expensive or too time consuming
Or both.
What a shame.
CGI killed it
Trea sure planner was internally sabotaged by the guy who wanted Disney to make 3D animation; the sabotage was basically no marketing, and the marketing that existed – spoiled the movie completely
yeah somebody need to explain what happened
The love for the art died and love for money was born
Then dei started and instead of people with talents they invited other people
Art like this takes time, time that boardroom suits don’t want to give them.
Money. 2D was time-consuming and labor intensive. I think in the modern era, you could build an insane 2d animation production pipeline that allowed didn’t sacrifice quality or the well-being of the creatives.
What is up with reposting this every few weeks?
And what is meant by “stopped for some reason”?
They were box office failures, they didn’t make enough money to break even and they were considered commercial failures. That’s why they stopped doing 2D animations.
Yes prince of Egypt was a moderate success but Titan AE for example who is not in in pics not. The other two Atlantis and Treasure Planet lost millions.
This and also the rising popularity with 3d animation, especially with Shrek.
Yes, these 2D movies look absolutely stunning and beatiful, but still financial flops.
They were all so good and original that eventually its what people got used to… and like idiots, they stopped caring and eventually the cost of production outweighed the return so they quit. Especially after places like blockbuster shut down. And Netflix came up. People are gonna watch crap anyway, what’s the point of going all out when you can maximize profits by throwing a bunch of low budget stuff amd get the same amount of money
The only good animation studio today which gives out quality of this level is dreamwork studios, but that could be just my opinion
All of these movies under performed, so what do you mean?
The special look is a mix of 2D Hand Animation and Computer 3D Animation.
After that time full Computer 3D Animation was getting good enough, so they only used that.
Thats why this time frame looks so special
3d cgi
The answer is unions