Context:
Some isolationist individuals and publications in the United States claimed that the Nuremberg trials were staged to justify Allied occupation and demonize Germany for war crimes that the Allies (primarily the Russians) had committed as well, as well as officially creating new crimes and then punishing the Nazis retroactively.
by Coffin_Builder
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Ah yes, the classic don’t bully the fascists defense. Truly a bold strategy, Cotton.
Well, I also think the Nuremberg trials were unfair
Not enough Nazi’s got executed.
The mental disociation from several parts of the US is just unbelievable. So It´s good taking land and opressing those weaker than you that have done nothing. But when It comes with a power that attacked you and was conducting genocide and brutal opression over inocent this persons will defend It.
I mean they were right that the nazis technically followed the laws that they were subject to. The problem is that we were beyond the point where anybody cared about a fair trial. It would have been better to just kidnap and publicly hang or shoot all of them instead of having complex trials. German is pretty stable today so I guess the interventionalists did something right
They did create new crimes to punish the Nazis and Japanese for it. But they won so they get to do whatever they want. Plus Nazis don’t deserve mercy anyway.
Now time do Nuremberg trails on Israeli and hamas generals for executing innocent civilians.
Even a broken and burnt clock is correct twice a day. The soviets did try to push the Katyń Massacre onto the germans
I can hear this gif 😅
Ya she is some how a trumper which I don’t understand bc to him she’s an abomination and not a real person….
This, but replace it with some nerd and how the treaty of Versaille was unfair.
Demonize Germany?
Isn’t the entire point of Nuremberg trials to find the “individuals” responsible?
I mean, most of that is objectively true, but just because what the Nazis did was technically legal doesn’t mean they don’t deserve to be punished.
The real unfairness is the US not wanting to be held to any international laws themselves, to the point of threatening to invade the Hague if any US soldier was ever tried there.
And, of course, it’s not like the US government was, is, or ever has been above committing war crimes and just generally causing large amounts of suffering to innocent civilians.
“America bad” is out of vogue here right now, though, so most people on this sub probably aren’t willing to acknowledge that.
They literally did invent new crimes and retroactively punish the Nazis for explicitly *obeying the law* (This violated the US Constitution on Ex-Post Facto Laws, as they generally apply those rules to what military tribunals do). Also, the definitions of genocide are literally written *not* to implicate the crimes of the USSR, UK or Jim Crow in the US (not that whataboutism is a defense), but only punish the Germans. That is a fact no historian disputes and the man who coined the word genocide was mad about that
No one is saying the perpetrators of the Holocaust should be “left alone”, but from a legal standpoint, the Nuremberg trials are (among) the most incorrect decisions in history. That is a big problem with pretending there is some objective legal basis for anything related to war.
What’s unfair was the US telling any German Nazi scientist, “You’re cool with us, no problem” if they were reasy to work in NASA, and spare him the justified punishment he was supposed to have just so that they cam help.the US pi ss the Soviets off.
The issue was by that time any idea of the laws being fair or not fair was out the window anyways because the entire WW2 itself started because Hi tler violated all knonw international laws post WW1 because it was considered “unfair”, so it’s not like the Germans or the Japense would consider anything “fair”. It was either this attempt at some semblance of civilization or just the soldiers going all out at the captured countries because they won.
Well, it’s a crime to lose, and Germany lost.
You ever think if the war went the other way, there may have been some Chicago trials or something held by Germans?