This is a solid take. It’s not that I completely dislike rap, but it isn’t exactly nice to listen to when I want to sit down and chill.
Any_Bar5795 on
The scale really said “not today, my guy.”
cookeduntilgolden on
Ending it on a Hey Ya reference is top tier, I love this take. Hip Hop is so much more of an art form than filks give it credit for
WaspInTheLotus on
And this is just in regards to the lyrical content – when you consider different flows, intentional mispronunciations, switching what “pocket” you’re in on the fly, and how all of that just “sounds” without regard to the substance of the lyrics, there’s a whole ‘notha level to it. Certainly there’s a lot of rappers making “background music”, but there is a tremendous amount of artistry that goes unappreciated notwithstanding how popular it is as an overall genre.
occamsshavingkit on
I get it but also the language around hip hop is almost always coded to mean Black people and not in a flattering way, so there is always that. I find heavy metal to be a bit much and I can say that without hating white people but for some reason I run into people who say they hate rap music but love Eminem. Guess what they all in have common? This dude is approaching it from a critical standpoint of one who is actively engaged in the culture so his synopsis is valid, but this take of rap being overstimulating is almost categorically from people people who are not. I think originally this point was underscored by white neurodivergents being put off by rap but perfectly fine with other busy music styles. But also, like what you like. It’s not that deep, and you absolutely can approach hiphop with a spoon, shovel, or a backhoe.
mostlymildlyconfused on
If you really believe that Hip Hop is the only genre of art that cross references culture then you should enroll in a history of art course and get educated.
Glad you found that pop will eat itself but his has been going on for centuries and black culture doesn’t have a monopoly.
I first found this out with Velasquez and Goya.
Happy education – it’s lifelong.
Ok_Pickle6834 on
They might not be the best lyricists, but they are far from the worst.
Big rap fan btw.
But also dismissing all other genres as shallow is pretty silly. Neil Young and Skynyrd were dissing eachother via song 60 years ago.
All genres have nuance that only genre nerds will pick up on.
Various_Laugh2221 on
See this explains so much of why I love hip hop lol and the more complex artists are the ones I enjoy the most… I’ve always been a huge metal head, specifically progressive metal and rock that not only makes you think but will sometimes break your brain with the unexpected time signature changes and polyrhythms… I guess overstimulating music is my jam lol whichever genre. 🤘🤘🤘 Not saying I can’t chill to something simple but i definitely love music that makes me think.
drockalexander on
extreme facts, no notes. I find myself wanting people to react to “i listen to a lot of rap music” with “oh, you must be poetic or smart or deep thinker” but instead they’re like “you must still be 12 years old” lol
kjyfqr on
I feel this way about pretty much every genre at one point during the year
Deuce-Wayne on
It’s kinda true depending on the style. I feel like a lot of avant garde rap especially is like this.
Like, it’s impossible for me to just throw on an Aesop Rock song, even if I heard it a billion times. A lot of artists, you have to capital L *listen* to the music to get it. I don’t even think I’ve memorized a single Aesop verse before no matter how many times I’ve heard it.
Sad-Bread5843 on
How about i just dont like it
after_Andrew on
ngl this is the shit that made me fall in love with rap. as someone who can’t dance to save my moms life the study of lyrics was one of my favorite hobbies. being able to decipher bars to my friends was a point of pride and never failed to make people do the Wee-Bey when they would get it.
lemetatron on
This is why I stick to the rap of my day. I know the beefs and the references and I can just vibe to the beat and lyrics. I don’t have time to decode the best rappers around these days. I needed a podcast to break down childish gambino’s ‘because the Internet’. My 16 yr old son had to explain the drake/Kendrick beef and all the entende and subtleties.
GACII on
me trying to explain an mf doom lyric.
MrQuojo on
Bout to obligatory listen to 7:12 and then Mask off.
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This is a solid take. It’s not that I completely dislike rap, but it isn’t exactly nice to listen to when I want to sit down and chill.
The scale really said “not today, my guy.”
Ending it on a Hey Ya reference is top tier, I love this take. Hip Hop is so much more of an art form than filks give it credit for
And this is just in regards to the lyrical content – when you consider different flows, intentional mispronunciations, switching what “pocket” you’re in on the fly, and how all of that just “sounds” without regard to the substance of the lyrics, there’s a whole ‘notha level to it. Certainly there’s a lot of rappers making “background music”, but there is a tremendous amount of artistry that goes unappreciated notwithstanding how popular it is as an overall genre.
I get it but also the language around hip hop is almost always coded to mean Black people and not in a flattering way, so there is always that. I find heavy metal to be a bit much and I can say that without hating white people but for some reason I run into people who say they hate rap music but love Eminem. Guess what they all in have common? This dude is approaching it from a critical standpoint of one who is actively engaged in the culture so his synopsis is valid, but this take of rap being overstimulating is almost categorically from people people who are not. I think originally this point was underscored by white neurodivergents being put off by rap but perfectly fine with other busy music styles. But also, like what you like. It’s not that deep, and you absolutely can approach hiphop with a spoon, shovel, or a backhoe.
If you really believe that Hip Hop is the only genre of art that cross references culture then you should enroll in a history of art course and get educated.
Glad you found that pop will eat itself but his has been going on for centuries and black culture doesn’t have a monopoly.
I first found this out with Velasquez and Goya.
Happy education – it’s lifelong.
They might not be the best lyricists, but they are far from the worst.
Big rap fan btw.
But also dismissing all other genres as shallow is pretty silly. Neil Young and Skynyrd were dissing eachother via song 60 years ago.
All genres have nuance that only genre nerds will pick up on.
See this explains so much of why I love hip hop lol and the more complex artists are the ones I enjoy the most… I’ve always been a huge metal head, specifically progressive metal and rock that not only makes you think but will sometimes break your brain with the unexpected time signature changes and polyrhythms… I guess overstimulating music is my jam lol whichever genre. 🤘🤘🤘 Not saying I can’t chill to something simple but i definitely love music that makes me think.
extreme facts, no notes. I find myself wanting people to react to “i listen to a lot of rap music” with “oh, you must be poetic or smart or deep thinker” but instead they’re like “you must still be 12 years old” lol
I feel this way about pretty much every genre at one point during the year
It’s kinda true depending on the style. I feel like a lot of avant garde rap especially is like this.
Like, it’s impossible for me to just throw on an Aesop Rock song, even if I heard it a billion times. A lot of artists, you have to capital L *listen* to the music to get it. I don’t even think I’ve memorized a single Aesop verse before no matter how many times I’ve heard it.
How about i just dont like it
ngl this is the shit that made me fall in love with rap. as someone who can’t dance to save my moms life the study of lyrics was one of my favorite hobbies. being able to decipher bars to my friends was a point of pride and never failed to make people do the Wee-Bey when they would get it.
This is why I stick to the rap of my day. I know the beefs and the references and I can just vibe to the beat and lyrics. I don’t have time to decode the best rappers around these days. I needed a podcast to break down childish gambino’s ‘because the Internet’. My 16 yr old son had to explain the drake/Kendrick beef and all the entende and subtleties.
me trying to explain an mf doom lyric.
Bout to obligatory listen to 7:12 and then Mask off.
Listening to 21 solves all of these problems…