What did they expect? Likely an army that holds itself to enough of a standard to not rape each other? That doesn’t sound like a big ask.
henaradwenwolfhearth on
Im confused about the term unreported
DijajMaqliun on
“Man on man sexual assault doesn’t exist! That’s why single sex prisons are rape free!”
Expensive-Layer7183 on
What a wild conclusion to come to, they always get so close and then just fumble at the one yard line.
TooManyNamesGuy on
Pete is that you?
BlargerJarger on
If they are unreported how do they have this number? “No one knows that 26,000 things happened because no one said anything.”
Infinite-Club4374 on
Well I’d expect people to not be rapists
flmbyz on
We expect our military to conduct themselves as the respectable service members they want to be perceived as.
JUST like our police.
AHugeHildaFan on
There was still tons of rape back when the military was only men. But they won’t acknowledge that.
ArchdukeToes on
Maybe they expected serving soldiers to meet non-criminal standards of professionalism?
HiroHayami on
If the security of a country depends of guys who can’t resist the urge to rape, then the problem is not putting men and women together.
NotsoGreatsword on
Jesus these comments “HoW dO tHeY kNoW iF tHeY’Re uNrePorTeD.”
Because dipshits a report requires all kinds of exact info. Anonymized polling does not. In an org where you have people with tremendous power over others people are more willing to give info if their name and the name of the perp are not attached.
Anonymous questionnaire:
Have you or someone you know been the victim of a sexual assault?
and then some other questions like “if yes what was the nature of the assault.”
“was the perpetrator a superior of yours?”
Jesus christ this isnt rocket science people. And no Kyle just because people do not have to put their name on it does not mean it is immediately suspect. And no Kyle one person cant just fill out a bunch of questionnaires saying “yes i was raped and command did it” or whatever.
There are controls for that. It is really easy to spot duplicates or similar stories.
Also there could be sampling done that is just confidential and not anonymized. So having actual names for these stories is also possible.
Being unreported means *unreported to the authorities because you do not trust them or believe it will help.”
It does not mean “made up”.
EndlesslyUnfinished on
What was expected? Oh, you know, to be the fine, upstanding citizens of the world, the ones to whom you look up to, the ones you can trust to do the right thing… and well.. they’re just men.. deeply flawed, mentally unstable men with a violence kink.. all being run with the same bullshit..
So.. they were expected to be good
..and as usual, we were disappointed
stobbsm on
Why is it such a hard concept for idiots to expect men to NOT sexually assault someone they work with? I genuinely don’t understand the caveman attitude.
mrmunklin on
I direct you all to the documentary “The Invisible War”
Hecateus on
I would like to see the statistical comparison with civilian life. And not presume this is only male on female assaults.
fgsgeneg on
They expected that male soldiers would act with grown-up discipline respect for one another. But I guess that’s too much to expect from them.
obolobolobo on
In the Russian army a woman medic, for example, has to decide which officer they’ll be raped by. The higher the officer the less chance of all the other men having a go.
JayNotAtAll on
This thinking normalizes rape and sexual assault and it is disgusting. It is basically saying “hey that’s ust how men are. They rape women when they are alone with them”. Shows how disturbing these people are. I have never raped a woman. Why? Cause I am not a shitty person. The idea never even crossed my mind.
Rabidpikachuuu on
If they’re unreported, then how do they know it’s 26,000? Genuinely asking. I don’t understand.
myweenorhurts on
Oops, here I go raping again! Darn women always making me rape!
oldbastardbob on
Easy answer. “They” expected service men to act with dignity and honor. Big ask, I know, but we have to aim high.
Strong_Bumblebee5495 on
😆 “stop the war on warriors” 😆
Madness has taken hold of America
Mountain_carrier530 on
This is a very old tweet from Trump in response to women being allowed in combat roles, like 2015-2016 old.
I am not dismissing the unreported SAPR cases or confirmed cases, but this was blown out of proportion at the time. In fact, as of FY2024, there were 8,195 confirmed cases in the entirety of the DoD, a drop of about 320-330 from last year. Mind you, unreported cases are unknown because they’re unreported. He was claiming 26,000 in the army because it was the number he pulled out of his ass.
matt-r_hatter on
Well for one, here in the office I work in there are both males and females. We spend more time with each other than we do our families. There are no sexual assaults occurring, maybe people learn to keep their hands to themselves and what consent means… Sexual assault is also not limited to male/female interactions. Plenty of same gender assaults happen daily.
Dboogy2197 on
How about for men to not be pieces of shit??
Fucking ridiculous
Gormless_Mass on
Not to rape other people?! This person is letting their intrusive thoughts out.
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What did they expect? Likely an army that holds itself to enough of a standard to not rape each other? That doesn’t sound like a big ask.
Im confused about the term unreported
“Man on man sexual assault doesn’t exist! That’s why single sex prisons are rape free!”
What a wild conclusion to come to, they always get so close and then just fumble at the one yard line.
Pete is that you?
If they are unreported how do they have this number? “No one knows that 26,000 things happened because no one said anything.”
Well I’d expect people to not be rapists
We expect our military to conduct themselves as the respectable service members they want to be perceived as.
JUST like our police.
There was still tons of rape back when the military was only men. But they won’t acknowledge that.
Maybe they expected serving soldiers to meet non-criminal standards of professionalism?
If the security of a country depends of guys who can’t resist the urge to rape, then the problem is not putting men and women together.
Jesus these comments “HoW dO tHeY kNoW iF tHeY’Re uNrePorTeD.”
Because dipshits a report requires all kinds of exact info. Anonymized polling does not. In an org where you have people with tremendous power over others people are more willing to give info if their name and the name of the perp are not attached.
Anonymous questionnaire:
Have you or someone you know been the victim of a sexual assault?
and then some other questions like “if yes what was the nature of the assault.”
“was the perpetrator a superior of yours?”
Jesus christ this isnt rocket science people. And no Kyle just because people do not have to put their name on it does not mean it is immediately suspect. And no Kyle one person cant just fill out a bunch of questionnaires saying “yes i was raped and command did it” or whatever.
There are controls for that. It is really easy to spot duplicates or similar stories.
Also there could be sampling done that is just confidential and not anonymized. So having actual names for these stories is also possible.
Being unreported means *unreported to the authorities because you do not trust them or believe it will help.”
It does not mean “made up”.
What was expected? Oh, you know, to be the fine, upstanding citizens of the world, the ones to whom you look up to, the ones you can trust to do the right thing… and well.. they’re just men.. deeply flawed, mentally unstable men with a violence kink.. all being run with the same bullshit..
So.. they were expected to be good
..and as usual, we were disappointed
Why is it such a hard concept for idiots to expect men to NOT sexually assault someone they work with? I genuinely don’t understand the caveman attitude.
I direct you all to the documentary “The Invisible War”
I would like to see the statistical comparison with civilian life. And not presume this is only male on female assaults.
They expected that male soldiers would act with grown-up discipline respect for one another. But I guess that’s too much to expect from them.
In the Russian army a woman medic, for example, has to decide which officer they’ll be raped by. The higher the officer the less chance of all the other men having a go.
This thinking normalizes rape and sexual assault and it is disgusting. It is basically saying “hey that’s ust how men are. They rape women when they are alone with them”. Shows how disturbing these people are. I have never raped a woman. Why? Cause I am not a shitty person. The idea never even crossed my mind.
If they’re unreported, then how do they know it’s 26,000? Genuinely asking. I don’t understand.
Oops, here I go raping again! Darn women always making me rape!
Easy answer. “They” expected service men to act with dignity and honor. Big ask, I know, but we have to aim high.
😆 “stop the war on warriors” 😆
Madness has taken hold of America
This is a very old tweet from Trump in response to women being allowed in combat roles, like 2015-2016 old.
I am not dismissing the unreported SAPR cases or confirmed cases, but this was blown out of proportion at the time. In fact, as of FY2024, there were 8,195 confirmed cases in the entirety of the DoD, a drop of about 320-330 from last year. Mind you, unreported cases are unknown because they’re unreported. He was claiming 26,000 in the army because it was the number he pulled out of his ass.
Well for one, here in the office I work in there are both males and females. We spend more time with each other than we do our families. There are no sexual assaults occurring, maybe people learn to keep their hands to themselves and what consent means… Sexual assault is also not limited to male/female interactions. Plenty of same gender assaults happen daily.
How about for men to not be pieces of shit??
Fucking ridiculous
Not to rape other people?! This person is letting their intrusive thoughts out.